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    • RonpfSR
      RonpfS
      last edited by

      To install or re-install pfBlockerNG 2.1.1_2

      https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=102470.msg647719#msg647719

      2.4.5-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
      Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz 8GB
      Backup 0.5_5, Bandwidthd 0.7.4_4, Cron 0.3.7_5, pfBlockerNG-devel 3.0.0_16, Status_Traffic_Totals 2.3.1_1, System_Patches 1.2_5

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      • N8LBVN
        N8LBV
        last edited by

        Crazy Question:
        Have up to date PFsense,  2.3.2-RELEASE (i386)
        built on Tue Jul 19 13:09:39 CDT 2016

        Installed pfBlockerNG package from web interface.
        INSTALLED SUCCESSFULLY as it said when it completed.

        Could not find (it) anywhere in the web interface.

        REBOOTED

        Shows Installed: pfBlockerNG 2.1.1_2

        Still cannot find it or anywhere in the web interface.
        I understand it should show up under <firewall>in the web interface but is not there.

        Rebooting does not fix it.

        I have no clue what to try next.</firewall>

        I feel more like I do now.

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        • RonpfSR
          RonpfS
          last edited by

          Check the installation logs, /var/log/pfblockerng/*, Dashboard for crash report etc.
          and look here https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=102470.msg647719#msg647719

          2.4.5-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
          Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz 8GB
          Backup 0.5_5, Bandwidthd 0.7.4_4, Cron 0.3.7_5, pfBlockerNG-devel 3.0.0_16, Status_Traffic_Totals 2.3.1_1, System_Patches 1.2_5

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          • N8LBVN
            N8LBV
            last edited by

            Thanks will do.

            I feel more like I do now.

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            • BBcan177B
              BBcan177 Moderator
              last edited by

              Here is a link to PR # 175 for pfBlockerNG v2.1.1_3

              https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=115357.msg649167#msg649167

              "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

              Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
              Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
              Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                pfBasic Banned
                last edited by

                I want to clarify my understanding of blocking and whitelisting here. I'm running a home network with no open WAN ports.

                I have turned off default allow any lan, anti lockout rules, put up a floating block everything rule and write a couple LAN pass rules to allow the ports I need.

                On pfBNG I'm using a bunch of lists the BBCan177 suggested. I'm also using DNSBL lists he suggested and the easy lists. Finally I have the top20 spammers country lists. ALL of these rules are LAN deny outbound.

                I see everywhere that you should not block the world and only allow what you need, but it seems like that is directed to setups with open WAN ports. Is LAN deny outbound for country lists valid? I am getting a lot of blocks for the top spammers country lists.

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                • BBcan177B
                  BBcan177 Moderator
                  last edited by

                  @pfBasic:

                  I am getting a lot of blocks for the top spammers country lists.

                  If your just using the TOP20, that's not "Blocking the World"… Some users, are clicking every Country in every Continent except for a few, and that's what "B.T.W." was referencing...

                  You can review the Alerts Tab, to see what's getting blocked... You can also refine the Alerts by using the "Alert Filter" tool.

                  "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                  Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                  Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                  Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                    pfBasic Banned
                    last edited by

                    OK great, so setting up my pfBNG rules as LAN deny outbound is ideal and I'm not just wasting processing power?

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                    • BBcan177B
                      BBcan177 Moderator
                      last edited by

                      @pfBasic:

                      OK great, so setting up my pfBNG rules as LAN deny outbound is ideal and I'm not just wasting processing power?

                      NP. ;)

                      "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                      Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                      Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                      Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                      • N8LBVN
                        N8LBV
                        last edited by

                        @RonpfS:

                        Check the installation logs, /var/log/pfblockerng/*, Dashboard for crash report etc.
                        and look here https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=102470.msg647719#msg647719

                        Been a busy week not had any time to dig into the issue yet. 
                        Looks like many people are having to change or increase memory limits and PHP stuff?
                        I'm guessing that may be the direction that I may need to go?

                        Please forgive my newbieness here but isn't the point of an installable package that they should just work?
                        Should not the package install itself modify memory settings as/if needed? and anything else?

                        I don't have any other packages installed nor am I doing anything crazy memory hungry. 
                        Wasn't going to do anything fancy with the blocker either just wanted to try it out and only have it block the "top ten" fist and see how that worked.

                        I'm also reading that uninstalling the package and/or reinstalling it is an absolute NO-NO and can break things even worse!!!  WTF! :) 
                        So being a package I'm not able to just uninstall it or reinstall it.   
                        I'll reference this if need be but right now I just noticed mention of it in a few threads I read.

                        I feel more like I do now.

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                        • RonpfSR
                          RonpfS
                          last edited by

                          An update to the package is now available https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=115357.msg649167#msg649167 & https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=115357.msg649605#msg649605

                          2.4.5-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                          Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz 8GB
                          Backup 0.5_5, Bandwidthd 0.7.4_4, Cron 0.3.7_5, pfBlockerNG-devel 3.0.0_16, Status_Traffic_Totals 2.3.1_1, System_Patches 1.2_5

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                            metalliqaz
                            last edited by

                            Is there any real documentation for this package?

                            I installed it and all it seemed to do was destroy DNS lookups for all clients, including the firewall itself, for about 45 minutes.  The configuration page is a huge array of settings that are unexplained.  The package doesn't seem to be doing anything at all.  There are no new rules in the firewall, there seems to be no way of viewing any block lists at all.  I can't even find any obvious setting to tell it which sources to use.  Serously, where did everyone learn how to use this?

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                            • RonpfSR
                              RonpfS
                              last edited by

                              @metalliqaz:

                              Is there any real documentation for this package?

                              I installed it and all it seemed to do was destroy DNS lookups for all clients, including the firewall itself, for about 45 minutes.  The configuration page is a huge array of settings that are unexplained.  The package doesn't seem to be doing anything at all.  There are no new rules in the firewall, there seems to be no way of viewing any block lists at all.  I can't even find any obvious setting to tell it which sources to use.  Serously, where did everyone learn how to use this?

                              Start with the first pages of each of these threads:
                              pfBlockerNG
                              pfBlockerNG v2.0 w/DNSBL
                              pfBlockerNG v2.1 w/TLD
                              And over time ;) why not read all pages.

                              Also there are plenty of Information boxes on almost every page, click on them.
                              And start slowly, go with one feature at a time, IPV4, IPV6, GeoIP, DNSBL until you get things running.

                              Go to Firewall / pfBlockerNG / Log Browser, there you can see the log file and pfBlockerNG files. Also visit the Diagnostics /Tables.

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                              2.4.5-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                              Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz 8GB
                              Backup 0.5_5, Bandwidthd 0.7.4_4, Cron 0.3.7_5, pfBlockerNG-devel 3.0.0_16, Status_Traffic_Totals 2.3.1_1, System_Patches 1.2_5

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                                metalliqaz
                                last edited by

                                Those are only useful if you already know the function of the config page in the first place.

                                Firewall / pfBlockerNG / Update / Update Settings:

                                Well, it obviously schedules a cron job, but what does the cron job do?  No indication whatsoever.
                                What's the difference between update, cron, and reload?  No idea.

                                Firewall / pfBlockerNG / Alerts / Alert Settings:

                                Well, each category gets a number.  What that number means is not explained.  Doesn't seem to matter though, because there is nothing in any alert queue.

                                Firewall / pfBlockerNG / Alerts / IPv4:

                                What does this do? It's just an "Add" button.  Probably IPv4 rules?  Okay lets make a rule, click Add:
                                Good lord.  Apparently I need to find lists myself, unlike ABP in my browser.  What format does it need? What are valid sources? What is the purpose of country codes?

                                Can you, being serious and honest with yourself, say that anyone could come in completely cold and actually be able to configure something that works?

                                Nah, I don't have time.  The mysterious disruption of DNS site-wide gives me an uneasy feeling, and the lack of documentation and a homepage seals it.

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                                • RonpfSR
                                  RonpfS
                                  last edited by

                                  Again if you clicked on some infobox you would get many answers.
                                  As for finding the lists, yes I could go thru the posts and fetch them to you, but you are probably able to do that on you own.

                                  2.4.5-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                                  Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz 8GB
                                  Backup 0.5_5, Bandwidthd 0.7.4_4, Cron 0.3.7_5, pfBlockerNG-devel 3.0.0_16, Status_Traffic_Totals 2.3.1_1, System_Patches 1.2_5

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                                    tdi
                                    last edited by

                                    metalliqaz does have a point.

                                    Digging through forum threads is never a fun task.

                                    It would be really good to have detailed info on package configuration and updated lists in one place.

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                                    • RonpfSR
                                      RonpfS
                                      last edited by

                                      @BBcan177:

                                      Its what "Open Source" is all about, and I encourage more people to get involved.

                                      2.4.5-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                                      Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz 8GB
                                      Backup 0.5_5, Bandwidthd 0.7.4_4, Cron 0.3.7_5, pfBlockerNG-devel 3.0.0_16, Status_Traffic_Totals 2.3.1_1, System_Patches 1.2_5

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                                        coliflower
                                        last edited by

                                        @doktornotor:

                                        @Asterix:

                                        Educate me where you see the default deny inbound global (all countries) rule on a base pfSense install.

                                        Nowhere. It's not visible, it's implicit. Anything not allowed is denied by default. Unless you have some "allow from any" rule you wish to restrict via country blocking on your WAN, there's just no point in creating inbound country-based rules at all.

                                        If everything is blocked on WAN-inbound per default / implicit, what is there reason (need) of having two recommended / additional rules on WAN ?

                                        1. Block private networks and loopback addresses
                                        2. Block boon networks

                                        Unless you have some "allow from any“ rule …

                                        Do you mean on WAN-interface or on LAN-interface ?

                                        Thanks a lot in advance !

                                        APU1D4 | pfSense 2.3.4 (amd64) | LAGG (LACP) <-> HP-1820-24G | pfBlockerNG | Suricata | WAN DOWN/UP 100/10

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                                          Mr. Jingles
                                          last edited by

                                          It's either a bug or a feature (old IT joke from when I was younger  ;D ).

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                                          6 and a half billion people know that they are stupid, agressive, lower life forms.

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                                          • RonpfSR
                                            RonpfS
                                            last edited by

                                            I have some alerts like that in dnsbl.log, last one was Aug 9

                                            DNSBL Reject HTTPS,Aug 09 19:21:32,watson.microsoft.com

                                            That was probably with pfBlockerNG-2.1.1_1, what version are you using now?

                                            From the Info infoblock under Firewall / pfBlockerNG / DNSBL

                                            So not a bug or a feature, more a limitation of the pfBlockerNG DNSBL Web Server.

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                                            2.4.5-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                                            Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz 8GB
                                            Backup 0.5_5, Bandwidthd 0.7.4_4, Cron 0.3.7_5, pfBlockerNG-devel 3.0.0_16, Status_Traffic_Totals 2.3.1_1, System_Patches 1.2_5

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