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    • BBcan177B
      BBcan177 Moderator
      last edited by

      @pfBasic:

      I am getting a lot of blocks for the top spammers country lists.

      If your just using the TOP20, that's not "Blocking the World"… Some users, are clicking every Country in every Continent except for a few, and that's what "B.T.W." was referencing...

      You can review the Alerts Tab, to see what's getting blocked... You can also refine the Alerts by using the "Alert Filter" tool.

      "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

      Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
      Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
      Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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        pfBasic Banned
        last edited by

        OK great, so setting up my pfBNG rules as LAN deny outbound is ideal and I'm not just wasting processing power?

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        • BBcan177B
          BBcan177 Moderator
          last edited by

          @pfBasic:

          OK great, so setting up my pfBNG rules as LAN deny outbound is ideal and I'm not just wasting processing power?

          NP. ;)

          "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

          Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
          Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
          Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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          • N8LBVN
            N8LBV
            last edited by

            @RonpfS:

            Check the installation logs, /var/log/pfblockerng/*, Dashboard for crash report etc.
            and look here https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=102470.msg647719#msg647719

            Been a busy week not had any time to dig into the issue yet. 
            Looks like many people are having to change or increase memory limits and PHP stuff?
            I'm guessing that may be the direction that I may need to go?

            Please forgive my newbieness here but isn't the point of an installable package that they should just work?
            Should not the package install itself modify memory settings as/if needed? and anything else?

            I don't have any other packages installed nor am I doing anything crazy memory hungry. 
            Wasn't going to do anything fancy with the blocker either just wanted to try it out and only have it block the "top ten" fist and see how that worked.

            I'm also reading that uninstalling the package and/or reinstalling it is an absolute NO-NO and can break things even worse!!!  WTF! :) 
            So being a package I'm not able to just uninstall it or reinstall it.   
            I'll reference this if need be but right now I just noticed mention of it in a few threads I read.

            I feel more like I do now.

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            • RonpfSR
              RonpfS
              last edited by

              An update to the package is now available https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=115357.msg649167#msg649167 & https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=115357.msg649605#msg649605

              2.4.5-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
              Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz 8GB
              Backup 0.5_5, Bandwidthd 0.7.4_4, Cron 0.3.7_5, pfBlockerNG-devel 3.0.0_16, Status_Traffic_Totals 2.3.1_1, System_Patches 1.2_5

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                metalliqaz
                last edited by

                Is there any real documentation for this package?

                I installed it and all it seemed to do was destroy DNS lookups for all clients, including the firewall itself, for about 45 minutes.  The configuration page is a huge array of settings that are unexplained.  The package doesn't seem to be doing anything at all.  There are no new rules in the firewall, there seems to be no way of viewing any block lists at all.  I can't even find any obvious setting to tell it which sources to use.  Serously, where did everyone learn how to use this?

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                • RonpfSR
                  RonpfS
                  last edited by

                  @metalliqaz:

                  Is there any real documentation for this package?

                  I installed it and all it seemed to do was destroy DNS lookups for all clients, including the firewall itself, for about 45 minutes.  The configuration page is a huge array of settings that are unexplained.  The package doesn't seem to be doing anything at all.  There are no new rules in the firewall, there seems to be no way of viewing any block lists at all.  I can't even find any obvious setting to tell it which sources to use.  Serously, where did everyone learn how to use this?

                  Start with the first pages of each of these threads:
                  pfBlockerNG
                  pfBlockerNG v2.0 w/DNSBL
                  pfBlockerNG v2.1 w/TLD
                  And over time ;) why not read all pages.

                  Also there are plenty of Information boxes on almost every page, click on them.
                  And start slowly, go with one feature at a time, IPV4, IPV6, GeoIP, DNSBL until you get things running.

                  Go to Firewall / pfBlockerNG / Log Browser, there you can see the log file and pfBlockerNG files. Also visit the Diagnostics /Tables.

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                  2.4.5-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                  Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz 8GB
                  Backup 0.5_5, Bandwidthd 0.7.4_4, Cron 0.3.7_5, pfBlockerNG-devel 3.0.0_16, Status_Traffic_Totals 2.3.1_1, System_Patches 1.2_5

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                    metalliqaz
                    last edited by

                    Those are only useful if you already know the function of the config page in the first place.

                    Firewall / pfBlockerNG / Update / Update Settings:

                    Well, it obviously schedules a cron job, but what does the cron job do?  No indication whatsoever.
                    What's the difference between update, cron, and reload?  No idea.

                    Firewall / pfBlockerNG / Alerts / Alert Settings:

                    Well, each category gets a number.  What that number means is not explained.  Doesn't seem to matter though, because there is nothing in any alert queue.

                    Firewall / pfBlockerNG / Alerts / IPv4:

                    What does this do? It's just an "Add" button.  Probably IPv4 rules?  Okay lets make a rule, click Add:
                    Good lord.  Apparently I need to find lists myself, unlike ABP in my browser.  What format does it need? What are valid sources? What is the purpose of country codes?

                    Can you, being serious and honest with yourself, say that anyone could come in completely cold and actually be able to configure something that works?

                    Nah, I don't have time.  The mysterious disruption of DNS site-wide gives me an uneasy feeling, and the lack of documentation and a homepage seals it.

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                    • RonpfSR
                      RonpfS
                      last edited by

                      Again if you clicked on some infobox you would get many answers.
                      As for finding the lists, yes I could go thru the posts and fetch them to you, but you are probably able to do that on you own.

                      2.4.5-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                      Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz 8GB
                      Backup 0.5_5, Bandwidthd 0.7.4_4, Cron 0.3.7_5, pfBlockerNG-devel 3.0.0_16, Status_Traffic_Totals 2.3.1_1, System_Patches 1.2_5

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                        tdi
                        last edited by

                        metalliqaz does have a point.

                        Digging through forum threads is never a fun task.

                        It would be really good to have detailed info on package configuration and updated lists in one place.

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                        • RonpfSR
                          RonpfS
                          last edited by

                          @BBcan177:

                          Its what "Open Source" is all about, and I encourage more people to get involved.

                          2.4.5-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                          Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz 8GB
                          Backup 0.5_5, Bandwidthd 0.7.4_4, Cron 0.3.7_5, pfBlockerNG-devel 3.0.0_16, Status_Traffic_Totals 2.3.1_1, System_Patches 1.2_5

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                            coliflower
                            last edited by

                            @doktornotor:

                            @Asterix:

                            Educate me where you see the default deny inbound global (all countries) rule on a base pfSense install.

                            Nowhere. It's not visible, it's implicit. Anything not allowed is denied by default. Unless you have some "allow from any" rule you wish to restrict via country blocking on your WAN, there's just no point in creating inbound country-based rules at all.

                            If everything is blocked on WAN-inbound per default / implicit, what is there reason (need) of having two recommended / additional rules on WAN ?

                            1. Block private networks and loopback addresses
                            2. Block boon networks

                            Unless you have some "allow from any“ rule …

                            Do you mean on WAN-interface or on LAN-interface ?

                            Thanks a lot in advance !

                            APU1D4 | pfSense 2.3.4 (amd64) | LAGG (LACP) <-> HP-1820-24G | pfBlockerNG | Suricata | WAN DOWN/UP 100/10

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                              Mr. Jingles
                              last edited by

                              It's either a bug or a feature (old IT joke from when I was younger  ;D ).

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                              6 and a half billion people know that they are stupid, agressive, lower life forms.

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                              • RonpfSR
                                RonpfS
                                last edited by

                                I have some alerts like that in dnsbl.log, last one was Aug 9

                                DNSBL Reject HTTPS,Aug 09 19:21:32,watson.microsoft.com
                                

                                That was probably with pfBlockerNG-2.1.1_1, what version are you using now?

                                From the Info infoblock under Firewall / pfBlockerNG / DNSBL

                                So not a bug or a feature, more a limitation of the pfBlockerNG DNSBL Web Server.

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                                2.4.5-RELEASE-p1 (amd64)
                                Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q8400 @ 2.66GHz 8GB
                                Backup 0.5_5, Bandwidthd 0.7.4_4, Cron 0.3.7_5, pfBlockerNG-devel 3.0.0_16, Status_Traffic_Totals 2.3.1_1, System_Patches 1.2_5

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                                  coliflower
                                  last edited by

                                  Just finished to read the whole thread, uff ..
                                  Thanks to BBCan for the package and this thread, I am quit new to pfSense so I learned a lot!

                                  WAN = INbound, don’t BLOCK the world, the world ist blocked by default, PASS only what you need and take care on that …
                                  LAN = OUTbound, PASS what you need first and BLOCK all afterwards.

                                  That two rules are most important to me, afterwards I can take care on the scenarios I need.

                                  Thanks once again !!

                                  APU1D4 | pfSense 2.3.4 (amd64) | LAGG (LACP) <-> HP-1820-24G | pfBlockerNG | Suricata | WAN DOWN/UP 100/10

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                                    coliflower
                                    last edited by

                                    Maybe there is one who is able to answer to me why are there two BLOCK-rules, bogon-networks and private-networks if the WAN is BLOCKED by default …?

                                    Thanks again in advance !!

                                    @coliflower:

                                    @doktornotor:

                                    @Asterix:

                                    Educate me where you see the default deny inbound global (all countries) rule on a base pfSense install.

                                    Nowhere. It's not visible, it's implicit. Anything not allowed is denied by default. Unless you have some "allow from any" rule you wish to restrict via country blocking on your WAN, there's just no point in creating inbound country-based rules at all.

                                    If everything is blocked on WAN-inbound per default / implicit, what is there reason (need) of having two recommended / additional rules on WAN ?

                                    1. Block private networks and loopback addresses
                                    2. Block boon networks

                                    Unless you have some "allow from any“ rule …

                                    Do you mean on WAN-interface or on LAN-interface ?

                                    Thanks a lot in advance !

                                    APU1D4 | pfSense 2.3.4 (amd64) | LAGG (LACP) <-> HP-1820-24G | pfBlockerNG | Suricata | WAN DOWN/UP 100/10

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                                      digdug3
                                      last edited by

                                      Those can be enabled/disabled on the interface itself.

                                      These are ip-addresses that should never exist on the WAN side (with the execption if you have a router on the WAN side that's not in bridge mode)

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                                        coliflower
                                        last edited by

                                        Thank you digdug3 !

                                        That helped finally:

                                        execption if you have a router on the WAN side that's not in bridge mode

                                        APU1D4 | pfSense 2.3.4 (amd64) | LAGG (LACP) <-> HP-1820-24G | pfBlockerNG | Suricata | WAN DOWN/UP 100/10

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                                        • BBcan177B
                                          BBcan177 Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Arbor Networks Feeds discontinued:
                                          https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=122237.0

                                          "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                                          Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                                          Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                                          Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                                          • mtarboxM
                                            mtarbox
                                            last edited by

                                            I know that this thread is a little older now.
                                            I utilized the php script that Dok presented.
                                            Should I go through and delete the failed downloads or what?
                                            [ pfB_MAIL - ToastedSpam ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:50:22 ] 
                                            [ pfB_MAIL - VirBL ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:45:01 ]
                                            [ pfB_SEC1 - MalwareGroup ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:35:56 ]
                                            [ pfB_PRI3 - Geopsy ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:35:33 ]
                                            [ pfB_PRI3 - VMX ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:35:31 ]
                                            [ pfB_PRI3 - DangerRulez ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:35:03 ]
                                            [ pfB_PRI2 - HoneyPot ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:34:41 ]
                                            [ pfB_PRI1 - dShield_Block ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:33:09 ]
                                            [ pfB_PRI1 - Abuse_Spyeye ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:32:51 ]
                                            [ pfB_MAIL - URIBL ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:29:37 ]
                                            [ pfB_MAIL - ToastedSpam ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:29:35 ]
                                            [ pfB_MAIL - VirBL ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:25:05 ]
                                            [ pfB_SEC1 - MalwareGroup ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:15:43 ]
                                            [ pfB_PRI3 - Geopsy ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:15:03 ]
                                            [ pfB_PRI3 - VMX ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:14:55 ]
                                            [ pfB_PRI3 - DangerRulez ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:14:17 ]
                                            [ pfB_PRI2 - HoneyPot ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:13:51 ]
                                            [ pfB_PRI1 - dShield_Block ] Download FAIL [ 03/19/17 18:11:35 ]

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