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    • dotdashD
      dotdash
      last edited by

      You should have your WAN interfaces on the same bogus network, your setup shows them in separate /24s. When I did it, I  used a private /30 as the public IP was a /30. That's probably not needed.

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        francesco1
        last edited by

        @Derelict: I was pinging various valid IP addresses on the internet.

        @dotdash: I used a /24 subnet because that is what the ISP is giving here in the test lab. I final setup supposed to be a /30.

        Today, I changed the setup. I took the whole thing off the internet and setup "my own internet" with public IP addresses and set up pfSense to route public IP addresses from the WAN to a DMZ. I got it to work but displays the same behavior as the previous setup.

        Basically, if I unplug the master firewall's WAN cable, routing switches to the slave firewall properly within a second. When I see the ping timeout and then resumes receiving replies I plug the WAN cable back in to the master firewall. Sometimes it switches back to the master without a problem but sometimes it does not.

        When it does not come back successfully, I unplug the master firewall's WAN cable again and the slave takes over successfully. It seems like I have to unplug all of the cables and plug them in an order where the WAN is plugged in first and then the rest.

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        • DerelictD
          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
          last edited by

          For starters, stop unplugging cables. Yes, you should test eventually but start with basic functionality.

          All of your CARP VIPs should be MASTER on primary and BACKUP on secondary. If not, fix that.

          Use the Temporarily Disable CARP button on Status > CARP on the primary. All of your CARP VIPs should go MASTER on the secondary (Again, Status > CARP on the secondary). If they do not, fix that.

          What documentation did you follow in setting up your HA cluster?

          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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            francesco1
            last edited by

            I used this document:
            https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Configuring_pfSense_Hardware_Redundancy_%28CARP%29

            The IP, CARP and HA part works; just not 100% of the time. All CARP related settings, rules etc., copy from master to slave.

            I’m unplugging cables to test fault tolerance. What if the WAN connection goes down for 3 seconds and comes back up? If the master doesn’t come back online properly, then everything going through the firewalls will go down. Is unplugging the WAN not a valid test? This behavior that I am seeing with pfSense HA something acceptable?

            You can see what I’m talking about in this video https://youtu.be/pepq4VLOUHE

            This is the current setup:

            “ISP” SIDE CONFIGURATION

            66.66.77.10/24 Windows Server

            “ISP“ Router
            66.66.77.1/24 Public DMZ Interface
            66.66.66.1/30 WAN Interface

            MY SIDE CONFIGURATION

            PFS1
            10.10.10.1/30 WAN Interface Dummy IP
            66.66.66.2/30 WAN CARP IP
            77.77.77.2/24 Public DMZ Interface
            77.77.77.1/24 Public DMZ Interface CARP IP

            PFS2
            10.11.11.1/30 WAN Interface Dummy IP
            66.66.66.2/30 WAN CARP IP
            77.77.77.3/24 Public DMZ Interface
            77.77.77.1/24 Public DMZ Interface CARP IP

            77.77.77.40/24 Windows Server

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by

              What is a "Dummy IP?"

              So you are trying to do HA without the required 3 public IP addresses (minimum /29) on WAN?

              You are still not providing the necessary details to properly help you diagnose your problem. Run through the connectivity troubleshooting steps and say what actually fails and where.

              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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              • dotdashD
                dotdash
                last edited by

                @Francesco:

                MY SIDE CONFIGURATION

                PFS1
                10.10.10.1/30 WAN Interface Dummy IP

                PFS2
                10.11.11.1/30 WAN Interface Dummy IP

                I pointed this out before, but you need to have them in the same subnet. Why not try 10.10.10.1/30 and 10.10.10.2/30 ??

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                  francesco1
                  last edited by

                  @Derelict:

                  What is a "Dummy IP?"

                  So you are trying to do HA without the required 3 public IP addresses (minimum /29) on WAN?

                  You are still not providing the necessary details to properly help you diagnose your problem. Run through the connectivity troubleshooting steps and say what actually fails and where.

                  Yes, I am trying to do HA without 3 public IP addresses on WAN. What other info do you need? Dummy IP = any IP placed in the IPv4 Address field of the WAN Interface that is not going to conflict with any other interface, host etc. The "Dummy IP" is required because PFS requires you to enter an IP address in that field. And, as I said before, I do NOT have the option of using more than 1 public IP address and overall seems to work.

                  @dotdash:

                  @Francesco:

                  MY SIDE CONFIGURATION

                  PFS1
                  10.10.10.1/30 WAN Interface Dummy IP

                  PFS2
                  10.11.11.1/30 WAN Interface Dummy IP

                  I pointed this out before, but you need to have them in the same subnet. Why not try 10.10.10.1/30 and 10.10.10.2/30 ??

                  Good question. I tried it before and it didn't make a difference. I will try it again.

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                    francesco1
                    last edited by

                    @dotdash:

                    @Francesco:

                    MY SIDE CONFIGURATION

                    PFS1
                    10.10.10.1/30 WAN Interface Dummy IP

                    PFS2
                    10.11.11.1/30 WAN Interface Dummy IP

                    I pointed this out before, but you need to have them in the same subnet. Why not try 10.10.10.1/30 and 10.10.10.2/30 ??

                    Just tried it again and same problem.

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                    • DerelictD
                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                      last edited by

                      Again - pretty sparse with the details.

                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                        francesco1
                        last edited by

                        @Derelict:

                        Again - pretty sparse with the details.

                        Again, what more details do you need??? I asked what details you need before. I'll provide the details needed.

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                        • DerelictD
                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                          last edited by

                          You are still not providing the necessary details to properly help you diagnose your problem. Run through the connectivity troubleshooting steps and say what actually fails and where.

                          Help us help you.

                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                            francesco1
                            last edited by

                            @Derelict:

                            You are still not providing the necessary details to properly help you diagnose your problem. Run through the connectivity troubleshooting steps and say what actually fails and where.

                            Help us help you.

                            I have no idea what details you are looking for. All I know right now is this:

                            1. I start ping command on server on both ends
                            2. Unplug Master Firewall WAN connection
                            3. I see Slave Firewall takes over when a packet is dropped and ping resumes
                            4. Right after that I plug the Master Firewall WAN connection
                            5. Master Firewall takes over but all pings fail
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                            • DerelictD
                              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                              last edited by

                              Details like what are you pinging from where when you're testing. Specifics, like interfaces and IP addresses.

                              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                francesco1
                                last edited by

                                I am pinging 77.77.77.40 from 66.66.77.10. I am also pinging 66.66.77.10 from 77.77.77.40.

                                Diagram of setup is attached. FYI, this is a closed lab setup.

                                Drawing1.jpg
                                Drawing1.jpg_thumb

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                                • DerelictD
                                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                  last edited by

                                  What address is 77.77.77.1/X routed to on 66.66.66 ?

                                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                    francesco1
                                    last edited by

                                    @Derelict:

                                    What address is 77.77.77.1/X routed to on 66.66.66 ?

                                    I do not understand your question.

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                                    • DerelictD
                                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                      last edited by

                                      How do the 77.77.77.X addresses get from the ISP to you? They have to be routed to you somehow.

                                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                        francesco1
                                        last edited by

                                        @Derelict:

                                        How do the 77.77.77.X addresses get from the ISP to you? They have to be routed to you somehow.

                                        If you are asking me where the 77.77.77.0/24 addresses come from, that does not matter because this  is a lab designed for testing only with no real connection to the Internet. It is only for testing PFS HA functionality.

                                        If you are asking what am I using to route IP traffic between 66.66.66.0/30 and 77.77.77.0/24, I am using a separate installation of PFS.

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                                        • DerelictD
                                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                          last edited by

                                          OK it doesn't matter if it is routed to the CARP VIP or not. I'm done.

                                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                            francesco1
                                            last edited by

                                            @Derelict:

                                            OK it doesn't matter if it is routed to the CARP VIP or not. I'm done.

                                            That's fine. You weren't reading the details, exaggerating information needed and making things more difficult than they really are.

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