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    • DerelictD
      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
      last edited by

      You need to have a VIP on LAN on the same subnet as the modem and NAT out that VIP when the destination is the modem so it doesn't have to have a route back to you (since it won't have one)

      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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        balubeto
        last edited by

        @Derelict:

        You need to have a VIP on LAN on the same subnet as the modem and NAT out that VIP when the destination is the modem so it doesn't have to have a route back to you (since it won't have one)

        Excuse me but what is a VIP?

        Thanks

        Bye

        balubeto

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        • pttP
          ptt Rebel Alliance
          last edited by

          @balubeto:

          Excuse me but what is a VIP?

          https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/What_are_Virtual_IP_Addresses

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            balubeto
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            I have a VDSL2 router (10.0.0.1) in bridge mode connected to the WAN port on a hardware firewall (192.168.1.1) which manages the Internet connection using the PPPoE.

            Since the WAN interface of the firewall is become a virtual adapter PPPoE-WAN, associated with the re2 physical interface, I assigned the re2 physical interface and I set it to 10.0.0.2.

            Now, what are the rules that I will have to create in the Virtual IP and NAT sections to make sure that I am able to access the web interface of the router?

            I've been using pfSense 2.3.2 64 bit.

            Thanks

            Bye

            balubeto

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              balubeto
              last edited by

              I'm still waiting for your answer.

              Thanks

              Bye

              balubeto

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by

                "I have a VDSL2 router (10.0.0.1)"
                "I assigned the re2 physical interface and I set it to 10.0.0.1"

                How do you expect that to work??  Just curious… Do you mean you set re2 to 10.0.0.2?

                So what do you think you should do for nat, if your wanting to talk to a client on a 10 network on your wan interface that has no gateway and doesn't understand how to get to your 192.168 network on your lan??  Hint if you "nat" your 192.168 traffic to look like its coming from a 10 address, then your "router" will no how to talk back ;)

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                  balubeto
                  last edited by

                  @johnpoz:

                  "I have a VDSL2 router (10.0.0.1)"
                  "I assigned the re2 physical interface and I set it to 10.0.0.1"

                  How do you expect that to work??  Just curious… Do you mean you set re2 to 10.0.0.2?

                  So what do you think you should do for nat, if your wanting to talk to a client on a 10 network on your wan interface that has no gateway and doesn't understand how to get to your 192.168 network on your lan??  Hint if you "nat" your 192.168 traffic to look like its coming from a 10 address, then your "router" will no how to talk back ;)

                  I was wrong to write: the re2 physical interface has the IP 1.0.0.2.

                  With these settings, it is possible to reach my goal? If so, how should I do? If not, what are the addresses of the router and re2 interface appropriate for do this?

                  Thanks

                  Bye

                  balubeto

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                    balubeto
                    last edited by

                    Sorry but there is someone willing to help me?

                    Thanks

                    Bye

                    balubeto

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by

                      So create an outbound nat using the vip you created of 10.0.0.2 - do you need a picture?

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                        balubeto
                        last edited by

                        @johnpoz:

                        So create an outbound nat using the vip you created of 10.0.0.2 - do you need a picture?

                        How should I fill out this window:


                        ?

                        Thanks

                        Bye

                        balubeto

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                        • pttP
                          ptt Rebel Alliance
                          last edited by

                          This is how i have it done….  No "VIP" here...

                          ADSL Modem in "Bridge"  with 172.20.254.1/29 IP address

                          pfSense WAN PPPoE (re1)

                          Modem Access Interface  "GEST"  (means: "gestión" = management)  ;)  (re1) with 172.20.254.6/29 IP address

                          The rest of the info, in the attached images ;)

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                            balubeto
                            last edited by

                            @ptt:

                            This is how i have it done….  No "VIP" here...

                            ADSL Modem in "Bridge"  with 172.20.254.1/29 IP address

                            pfSense WAN PPPoE (re1)

                            Modem Access Interface  "GEST"  (means: "gestión" = management)  ;)  (re1) with 172.20.254.6/29 IP address

                            The rest of the info, in the attached images ;)

                            I can not understand the 003 image. What rules should I add?

                            Thanks

                            Bye

                            balubeto

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by

                              Good catch ptt, no you do not need a vip if your NOT using the wan interface IP I guess.  Good catch that his wan is actually PPPoE.  I was over looking that.

                              But I would not suggest manual mode for the outbound nat, just use hybrid and add the nat for interface that is connected to your modem.

                              This is really no different than using a vip, but since your really not actually using the IP that is on your physical interface connected to your modem, you can just set the IP right on the interface and no need for a vip.

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                              • DerelictD
                                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                last edited by

                                Yeah PPPoE is done differently. That writeup has you putting the IP subnet of the modem on the physical interface the PPPoE is on. No VIPs there.

                                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                  balubeto
                                  last edited by

                                  I can not understand the 003 image. What rules should I add?

                                  Thanks

                                  Bye

                                  balubeto

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    that is not a rule.. That is the actual interface connected to the modem.. Just putting an IP address on it that matches with the IP address of the modems IP.

                                    An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                                    If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
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                                    • pttP
                                      ptt Rebel Alliance
                                      last edited by

                                      You create & configure the "Interface" for modem access (GEST in my case)

                                      then, as John pointed, you set the NAT as "Hybrid"

                                      now, you create the NAT Rule (Mapping) to access the Modem…

                                      That's all..

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                                        balubeto
                                        last edited by

                                        Firewall 192.168.1.1
                                        Router 10.0.0.1

                                        I configured the router in bridge mode and have configured the firewall in this way





                                        When I connect my router to the WAN port on the firewall, I can't access the router. Where did a mistake?

                                        Thank you,

                                        Bye

                                        balubeto

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                                        • pttP
                                          ptt Rebel Alliance
                                          last edited by

                                          Your NAT setting is wrong ….  Set/leave it as "Hybrid Outbound NAT"

                                          ![Your NAT is wrong.jpg](/public/imported_attachments/1/Your NAT is wrong.jpg)
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                                            balubeto
                                            last edited by

                                            @ptt:

                                            Your NAT setting is wrong ….  Set/leave it as "Hybrid Outbound NAT"

                                            This setting

                                            is fine?

                                            Thanks

                                            Bye

                                            balubeto

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