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      balubeto
      last edited by

      @ptt:

      This is how i have it done….  No "VIP" here...

      ADSL Modem in "Bridge"  with 172.20.254.1/29 IP address

      pfSense WAN PPPoE (re1)

      Modem Access Interface  "GEST"  (means: "gestión" = management)  ;)  (re1) with 172.20.254.6/29 IP address

      The rest of the info, in the attached images ;)

      I can not understand the 003 image. What rules should I add?

      Thanks

      Bye

      balubeto

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by

        Good catch ptt, no you do not need a vip if your NOT using the wan interface IP I guess.  Good catch that his wan is actually PPPoE.  I was over looking that.

        But I would not suggest manual mode for the outbound nat, just use hybrid and add the nat for interface that is connected to your modem.

        This is really no different than using a vip, but since your really not actually using the IP that is on your physical interface connected to your modem, you can just set the IP right on the interface and no need for a vip.

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        • DerelictD
          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
          last edited by

          Yeah PPPoE is done differently. That writeup has you putting the IP subnet of the modem on the physical interface the PPPoE is on. No VIPs there.

          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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            balubeto
            last edited by

            I can not understand the 003 image. What rules should I add?

            Thanks

            Bye

            balubeto

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by

              that is not a rule.. That is the actual interface connected to the modem.. Just putting an IP address on it that matches with the IP address of the modems IP.

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              • pttP
                ptt Rebel Alliance
                last edited by

                You create & configure the "Interface" for modem access (GEST in my case)

                then, as John pointed, you set the NAT as "Hybrid"

                now, you create the NAT Rule (Mapping) to access the Modem…

                That's all..

                NAT_Hybrid.png
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                NAT_CFG.png
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                  balubeto
                  last edited by

                  Firewall 192.168.1.1
                  Router 10.0.0.1

                  I configured the router in bridge mode and have configured the firewall in this way





                  When I connect my router to the WAN port on the firewall, I can't access the router. Where did a mistake?

                  Thank you,

                  Bye

                  balubeto

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                  • pttP
                    ptt Rebel Alliance
                    last edited by

                    Your NAT setting is wrong ….  Set/leave it as "Hybrid Outbound NAT"

                    ![Your NAT is wrong.jpg](/public/imported_attachments/1/Your NAT is wrong.jpg)
                    ![Your NAT is wrong.jpg_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Your NAT is wrong.jpg_thumb)

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                      balubeto
                      last edited by

                      @ptt:

                      Your NAT setting is wrong ….  Set/leave it as "Hybrid Outbound NAT"

                      This setting

                      is fine?

                      Thanks

                      Bye

                      balubeto

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Why do you have 10.0.0.0/8 on your lan side??  Also why is your LAN connected to Bridge0???

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                          bimmerdriver
                          last edited by

                          My gateway uses a private network address for the management interface. My routers are connected to a bridged port so they don't have visibility of the private network. I wanted to be able to access the gateway, but I was okay with not having it accessible from any computer. I had a spare NIC on the hyper-v server that is hosting the pfsense routers, so I connected it one of the LAN ports on the gateway and bumped up the metric so the route wouldn't be used except to access the private address. I don't think there's any reason why it wouldn't work on any host with dual NICs.

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                            balubeto
                            last edited by

                            Router VDSL2 in Bridge mode: 10.0.0.1
                            Firewall hardware: 192.168.1.1

                            I connected the router to the WAN port of the firewall configuring it in this way:










                            but I can not access the router from the LAN and I have no Internet because the PPPoE client can not connect even if its login is correct. Why?

                            Thanks

                            Bye

                            balubeto

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                            • DerelictD
                              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                              last edited by

                              Does your PPPoE work if you get rid of all the modem access junk? Is there anything interesting in the PPP logs? Are you sure the modem is in bridge mode?

                              After you get PPPoE working again and you go back to trying to access the modem, are you sure it's 10.0.0.0/8 and not 10.0.0.0/24?

                              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                balubeto
                                last edited by

                                @Derelict:

                                Does your PPPoE work if you get rid of all the modem access junk? Is there anything interesting in the PPP logs? Are you sure the modem is in bridge mode?

                                After you get PPPoE working again and you go back to trying to access the modem, are you sure it's 10.0.0.0/8 and not 10.0.0.0/24?

                                Why should I put 10.0.0.0/24?

                                Thanks

                                Bye

                                balubeto

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                                • DerelictD
                                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                  last edited by

                                  Because that's the netmask the cable modem is configured for? I asked if you were sure. I didn't say you should change it.

                                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                  • jahonixJ
                                    jahonix
                                    last edited by

                                    And on your Modem_access Interface you should UNcheck "Block private networks".

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      How exactly do you think your nat is going to work?  You have 10.0.0/8 as dest but you also have it a source for your lan automatic nat, etc.

                                      What I would do is START over!!!  delete all that crap.. And why again do you think you need to run a bridge on pfsense?

                                      And I find it highly unlikely your "modem" is using /8 as its mask for its 10 address.. Your status doesn't even show your wan interface up..

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                                        balubeto
                                        last edited by

                                        I noticed that if I enable the Interfaces –-> Modem_access interface and, then, I click on the Connect button on the Status ---> Interfaces, the firewall connects to the Internet but the computers on the LAN have no more Internet. Why?

                                        Thanks

                                        Bye

                                        balubeto

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          Prob has something to do with running same 10/8 network on both your wan and lan?  Or maybe some nonsense you did with a bridge??

                                          What I would do is start over!!  NO freaking bridges… Actually validate what your modem is using for its mask on this 10 address.  And then create your interface using that.. And don't use an overlapping network on your lan side, etc.

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                                            balubeto
                                            last edited by

                                            @johnpoz:

                                            Prob has something to do with running same 10/8 network on both your wan and lan?  Or maybe some nonsense you did with a bridge??

                                            What I would do is start over!!  NO freaking bridges… Actually validate what your modem is using for its mask on this 10 address.  And then create your interface using that.. And don't use an overlapping network on your lan side, etc.

                                            Excuse me, but how do I solve my problem?

                                            Thanks

                                            Bye

                                            balubeto

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