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    Hide IPv4 WAN address while using Hurricane Electric IPv6 tunnel

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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      Well if all you want to do is block their test..  That is simple firewall rule to block access to the IPv4 address they do their tests with.. You can see from the tests they do they try and go to an IPv4 site and lookup a A record.  And then they try and go to directed IPv4 address - if you block them, then their test shows no IPv4..

      I show that they are using ipv4.vm1 and ipv4.vm2 depending - so I blocked both of those IPs and as you can see they do not detect my IPv4 address.

      If that is all your worried about took 2 seconds to block once you figure out what they are actually doing to detect your addresses..  Which you can see from their test tech info page.

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        da9el84
        last edited by

        Thanks for the update, however I am not talking about blocking a single site. I was talking about not sharing my ipv4 information in general.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          You just stated before you need ipv4 access to wan, which I assume means to the internet???

          If you don't want your machines to use ipv4, ok you can use a proxy that is only using ipv6.  You could also just block them from access ipv4 on pfsense to the internet.  You do understand this is going to break the vast majority of the internet for you.. While ipv6 has come a long way in last few years.  There is a shit ton of stuff that is only ipv4.  So if your using ipv6 only proxy there is no way for you to access that ipv4 only stuff.

          If what your wanting to accomplish is just hiding true ipv4, then get a vpn and tunnel your traffic through that - then sites you access via ipv4 would see your vpn IPv4 address an not your real ipv4 address.

          You do understand if your trying to "hide" from the guys in black and their helicopters ;)  Its pretty freaking simple for them to track your ipv6 address from HE…

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            bimmerdriver
            last edited by

            @johnpoz:

            You just stated before you need ipv4 access to wan, which I assume means to the internet???

            If you don't want your machines to use ipv4, ok you can use a proxy that is only using ipv6.  You could also just block them from access ipv4 on pfsense to the internet.  You do understand this is going to break the vast majority of the internet for you.. While ipv6 has come a long way in last few years.  There is a shit ton of stuff that is only ipv4.  So if your using ipv6 only proxy there is no way for you to access that ipv4 only stuff.

            If what your wanting to accomplish is just hiding true ipv4, then get a vpn and tunnel your traffic through that - then sites you access via ipv4 would see your vpn IPv4 address an not your real ipv4 address.

            You do understand if your trying to "hide" from the guys in black and their helicopters ;)  Its pretty freaking simple for them to track your ipv6 address from HE…

            I was just going to suggest the same thing WRT using a VPN. I use mullvad. It supports both ipv4 and ipv6, although ipv6 is somewhat flakey. Like other better vpn providers, they don't do any logging and you can even pay with bitcoins.

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            • JKnottJ
              JKnott
              last edited by

              This has been configured to only have ipv6 networking and using that as proxy to test-ipv6.com, then the sites reports that I have no ipv4 as wanted.

              How'd you manage to reach an IPv4 only address, with only IPv6 available?

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              i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by

                ^ not sure he did..  Can tell you for sure if I disable ipv4 on my box, and point to HE ipv6 for dns to just take my unbound cache and ipv4 connectivity out of the question for dns, etc.

                I can not get to that site.. I only show test-ipv6.com with IPv4 records..  Be it you query from ipv4 or ipv6 dns..

                I disable ipv4 on my machine and only use IPv6 I can not get to that site..

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                • JKnottJ
                  JKnott
                  last edited by

                  ^^^^
                  That's what I'd expect too.  Something just doesn't add up here.

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    That site as I showed you will show you don't have ipv4 if you just block access to those 2 ipv4 IPs.. You can see exactly how the site tests for ipv4..  Which is kind of lame if it only listens on ipv4 kind of obvious that you must of accessed it via ipv4 ;)

                    So I tested again.. And even when you query only from ipv6 I can not find an IPv6 address for that site.. So loading it must of come up via ipv4..

                    So while I show NS having ipv6 for that domain

                    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                    ;test-ipv6.com.                IN      NS

                    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                    test-ipv6.com.          300    IN      NS      ns1.test-ipv6.com.
                    test-ipv6.com.          300    IN      NS      ns2.test-ipv6.com.

                    ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
                    ns1.test-ipv6.com.      300    IN      A      216.218.228.118
                    ns1.test-ipv6.com.      300    IN      AAAA    2001:470:1:18::118
                    ns2.test-ipv6.com.      300    IN      A      209.128.193.197
                    ns2.test-ipv6.com.      300    IN      AAAA    2607:f0db:5001:8000::2

                    If you query the IPv6 NS address you don't get a AAAA response for test-ipv6.com or www.test-ipv6.com

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                    • JKnottJ
                      JKnott
                      last edited by

                      I just tried connecting to ns2.test-ipv6.com.  I get an unable to connect error.

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                      UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Not having any problems connecting to them.. But they don't have any AAAA records..

                        dig @2607:f0db:5001:8000::2 test-ipv6.com AAAA

                        ; <<>> DiG 9.10.4-P3 <<>> @2607:f0db:5001:8000::2 test-ipv6.com AAAA
                        ; (1 server found)
                        ;; global options: +cmd
                        ;; Got answer:
                        ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 57326
                        ;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
                        ;; WARNING: recursion requested but not available

                        ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                        ;test-ipv6.com.                IN      AAAA

                        ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
                        test-ipv6.com.          300    IN      SOA    ns1.test-ipv6.com. jfesler.test-ipv6.com. 2016030401 10800 3600 604800 86400

                        ;; Query time: 64 msec
                        ;; SERVER: 2607:f0db:5001:8000::2#53(2607:f0db:5001:8000::2)
                        ;; WHEN: Sun Oct 16 09:51:34 Central Daylight Time 2016
                        ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 79

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