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    • johnpozJ Online
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by

      yup working just fine here as well..

      
      > dig www.melita.com                                                     
      
      ; <<>> DiG 9.11.0-P1 <<>> www.melita.com                                 
      ;; global options: +cmd                                                  
      ;; Got answer:                                                           
      ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 62636                
      ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 1     
      
      ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:                                                    
      ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096                                    
      ;; QUESTION SECTION:                                                     
      ;www.melita.com.                        IN      A                        
      
      ;; ANSWER SECTION:                                                       
      www.melita.com.         86400   IN      A       212.56.128.204           
      
      ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:                                                    
      melita.com.             86400   IN      NS      ns1.melitacable.com.     
      melita.com.             86400   IN      NS      ns.melitacable.com.      
      
      ;; Query time: 197 msec                                                  
      ;; SERVER: 192.168.9.253#53(192.168.9.253)                               
      ;; WHEN: Sat Nov 26 16:24:16 Central Standard Time 2016                  
      ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 106                                                   
      
      

      What do you get back?  Servfail, nx, timeout?  Its quite possible with how resolving works that your having issues with connectivity to their NS.. Can you query them directly?

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        Chrismallia
        last edited by

        Hi thanks for your reply and testing it out MM that is strange cos I always had this problem on different installs and different hardware, I wish  I can resolve this as melita is our ISP here and we need it.

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          Chrismallia
          last edited by

          A My friend johnpoz  love to hear from you :)  I get a page error This site can’t be reached

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          • johnpozJ Online
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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            no with an actual tool that does a query.. page can not be reached doesn't mean your dns didn't work..

            Use drill like dok did, or dig or host or nslookup.. A tools that actually does a query that you can see the results in.. For all you know your browser is looking in its cache that it got back a nx before.. and has to wait for the neg cache to expire..

            Your browser has a dns cache, your OS dns client has a cache, pfsense has a cache.  You need to understand what is exactly happening.. And if you can not query or just some browser error, or maybe the site failed..

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              Chrismallia
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              when I do dns lookup melita.com it results the ip fine. when I ping melita.com from a windows cms I get >ping melita.com
              Ping request could not find host melita.com. Please check the name and try again. when I ping the ip it pings fine

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              • johnpozJ Online
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                windows "cms" ?? what is that? content management system?  did you mean command prompt?

                what are you using for dns lookup - what tool?  And what are you doing the query too?  Maybe your machine is infected with something and hijacking connections??

                Please post your ping command and your "dns" command output.

                ping melita.com

                Pinging melita.com [212.56.128.204] with 32 bytes of data:
                Reply from 212.56.128.204: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=53
                Reply from 212.56.128.204: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=53
                Reply from 212.56.128.204: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=53
                Reply from 212.56.128.204: bytes=32 time=157ms TTL=53

                Ping statistics for 212.56.128.204:
                    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
                Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
                    Minimum = 157ms, Maximum = 157ms, Average = 157ms

                And again going to mention your dns tools will do a direct query, doing a ping could be getting answer from you OS dns client cache of neg response.  If your saying yoru dns query works..  The flush your windows local cache and try your ping by name again

                ipconfig /flushdns

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                  Chrismallia
                  last edited by

                  Hi  I hit the s  by mistake I meant CMD. There is nothing wrong with the machines I tried the same on a fresh install laptop with same results, now when I change my dns settings manually in windows to google it opens the site fine and this is happening across all my machines phones and I also have a linux Manjaro pc same problem. I  used dns lookup in pfsense and it resolves it fine but on clients no

                  C:\Users\Chris>ping melita.com
                  Ping request could not find host melita.com. Please check the name and try again.

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                  • johnpozJ Online
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    but if you do a dns query via nslookup or dig or drill or host from that same machine your saying it resolves??

                    If so then flush the machines local cache and try your ping again!!

                    from your cmd, ipconfig /flushdns

                    dns query for it - does it work?

                    then ping it..

                    If ping says can not resolve then you got something wrong on the machines built in dns client.

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                      last edited by

                      I flushed it but same problem I did nslookup in cmd

                      C:\Users\Chris>nslookup 212.56.128.204
                      Server:  pfSense.localdomain
                      Address:  192.168.0.1

                      DNS request timed out.
                          timeout was 2 seconds.
                      *** Request to pfSense.localdomain timed-out

                      C:\Users\Chris>nslookup melita.com
                      Server:  pfSense.localdomain
                      Address:  192.168.0.1

                      *** pfSense.localdomain can't find melita.com: Server failed

                      I am sure it is not my machines/devices as  using google dns on the machines or replacing pfsense with a different router  solves it

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                        last edited by

                        Ping from the pfsense box works  Diagnostics/ping

                        PING melita.com (212.56.128.204): 56 data bytes
                        64 bytes from 212.56.128.204: icmp_seq=0 ttl=60 time=9.888 ms
                        64 bytes from 212.56.128.204: icmp_seq=1 ttl=60 time=11.754 ms
                        64 bytes from 212.56.128.204: icmp_seq=2 ttl=60 time=16.079 ms

                        –- melita.com ping statistics ---
                        3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
                        round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 9.888/12.574/16.079/2.593 ms

                        The problems looks between the pfsense and devices communication

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                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                          C:\Users\Chris>nslookup melita.com
                          Server:  pfSense.localdomain
                          Address:  192.168.0.1

                          *** pfSense.localdomain can't find melita.com: Server failed

                          Yeah sure looks like your having a issue resolving it.. Do you have pfsense using itself for dns??  Or do you have it using something else??  Thought you said your dns query for it worked??  From that you first got a timeout, pfsense was trying to resolve??  Then you get back serv failed..  Which normally means could not talk to the NS it..  So is psfense using itself, ie this will use resolver out of the box in resolver mode and pfsense asking the resolver for stuff it wants to resolve.

                          nslookup is not as good at helping debug dns issues as dig is.  What I would suggest you do is install dig on your windows box, or use linux with dig or drill and do a trace..  This will talk to the roots and walk down the tree just like unbound does in resolver mode.  This should tell you where there is an issue.

                          so example..

                          
                          > dig +trace +nodnssec melita.com
                          
                          ; <<>> DiG 9.11.0-P1 <<>> +trace +nodnssec melita.com
                          ;; global options: +cmd
                          .                       494382  IN      NS      j.root-servers.net.
                          .                       494382  IN      NS      m.root-servers.net.
                          .                       494382  IN      NS      a.root-servers.net.
                          .                       494382  IN      NS      c.root-servers.net.
                          .                       494382  IN      NS      e.root-servers.net.
                          .                       494382  IN      NS      d.root-servers.net.
                          .                       494382  IN      NS      k.root-servers.net.
                          .                       494382  IN      NS      h.root-servers.net.
                          .                       494382  IN      NS      f.root-servers.net.
                          .                       494382  IN      NS      i.root-servers.net.
                          .                       494382  IN      NS      b.root-servers.net.
                          .                       494382  IN      NS      l.root-servers.net.
                          .                       494382  IN      NS      g.root-servers.net.
                          ;; Received 239 bytes from 192.168.9.253#53(192.168.9.253) in 0 ms
                          
                          com.                    172800  IN      NS      a.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.                    172800  IN      NS      b.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.                    172800  IN      NS      c.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.                    172800  IN      NS      d.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.                    172800  IN      NS      e.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.                    172800  IN      NS      f.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.                    172800  IN      NS      g.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.                    172800  IN      NS      h.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.                    172800  IN      NS      i.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.                    172800  IN      NS      j.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.                    172800  IN      NS      k.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.                    172800  IN      NS      l.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.                    172800  IN      NS      m.gtld-servers.net.
                          ;; Received 527 bytes from 192.203.230.10#53(e.root-servers.net) in 15 ms
                          
                          melita.com.             172800  IN      NS      ns.melitacable.com.
                          melita.com.             172800  IN      NS      ns1.melitacable.com.
                          ;; Received 118 bytes from 192.55.83.30#53(m.gtld-servers.net) in 124 ms
                          
                          melita.com.             86400   IN      A       212.56.128.204
                          melita.com.             86400   IN      NS      ns1.melitacable.com.
                          melita.com.             86400   IN      NS      ns.melitacable.com.
                          ;; Received 134 bytes from 212.56.128.132#53(ns.melitacable.com) in 156 ms
                          
                          

                          You see it get roots, ask them for NS for .com, then ask .com NS who is NS for melita.com, then ask one of those NS for for the A record..

                          You can just download dig for free as part of bind, then just install the "tools" 
                          https://www.isc.org/downloads/

                          Or just do it direct from pfsense with drill

                          
                          [2.3.2-RELEASE][root@pfsense.local.lan]/root: drill -T melita.com
                          com.    172800  IN      NS      h.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.    172800  IN      NS      l.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.    172800  IN      NS      a.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.    172800  IN      NS      e.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.    172800  IN      NS      f.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.    172800  IN      NS      d.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.    172800  IN      NS      g.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.    172800  IN      NS      j.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.    172800  IN      NS      b.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.    172800  IN      NS      m.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.    172800  IN      NS      k.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.    172800  IN      NS      i.gtld-servers.net.
                          com.    172800  IN      NS      c.gtld-servers.net.
                          melita.com.     172800  IN      NS      ns.melitacable.com.
                          melita.com.     172800  IN      NS      ns1.melitacable.com.
                          melita.com.     86400   IN      A       212.56.128.204
                          melita.com.     86400   IN      NS      ns1.melitacable.com.
                          melita.com.     86400   IN      NS      ns.melitacable.com.
                          
                          

                          If it fails - you can u the verbosity with

                          drill -T -V 5 melita.com

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                            Chrismallia
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                            Hi here is the dig

                            C:\Users\Chris>dig melita.com

                            ; <<>> DiG 9.11.0-P1 <<>> melita.com
                            ;; global options: +cmd
                            ;; Got answer:
                            ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 661
                            ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

                            ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
                            ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
                            ; COOKIE: 95b8d2028f289628 (echoed)
                            ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                            ;melita.com.                    IN      A

                            ;; Query time: 0 msec
                            ;; SERVER: 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1)
                            ;; WHEN: Sun Nov 27 16:04:07 W. Europe Standard Time 2016
                            ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 51

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                            • johnpozJ Online
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                              No this not the dig I showed you.. Do a full trace.. and forget any dnssec stuff.. Maybe that is what is failing for you, which is why lets do it without the dnssec, etc.

                              dig +trace +nodnssec melita.com

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                                :) sorry is this it

                                C:\Users\Chris>dig trace nodnssec melita.com

                                ; <<>> DiG 9.11.0-P1 <<>> trace nodnssec melita.com
                                ;; global options: +cmd
                                ;; Got answer:
                                ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 539
                                ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1

                                ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
                                ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
                                ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                ;trace.                        IN      A

                                ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                .                      2594    IN      SOA    a.root-servers.net. nstld.verisign-grs.com. 2016112700 1800 900 604800 86400

                                ;; Query time: 63 msec
                                ;; SERVER: 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1)
                                ;; WHEN: Sun Nov 27 16:35:12 W. Europe Standard Time 2016
                                ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 109

                                ;; Got answer:
                                ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 44812
                                ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1

                                ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
                                ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
                                ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                ;nodnssec.                      IN      A

                                ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                .                      2594    IN      SOA    a.root-servers.net. nstld.verisign-grs.com. 2016112700 1800 900 604800 86400

                                ;; Query time: 62 msec
                                ;; SERVER: 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1)
                                ;; WHEN: Sun Nov 27 16:35:12 W. Europe Standard Time 2016
                                ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 112

                                ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

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                                • johnpozJ Online
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                  Dude copy and paste!!  you need the + signs…

                                  do you not even read what it outputs

                                  ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                  ;trace.                        IN      A

                                  Are you hungover or something?  Need a cup of coffee or 3?

                                  edit:  Oh your EU time.. Maybe your already started hitting the hooch? ;)

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                                    Chrismallia
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                                    C:\Users\Chris>dig +trace +nodnssec melita.com

                                    ; <<>> DiG 9.11.0-P1 <<>> +trace +nodnssec melita.com
                                    ;; global options: +cmd
                                    ;; Received 12 bytes from 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1) in 0 ms

                                    :) sorry

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                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      that is your full output??

                                      Is 192.168.0.1 pfsense?  And you have it resolver mode?  It should of atleast given you the root servers..  You got something wrong..

                                      Try it with just the +trace option

                                      dig +trace melita.com

                                      Also dig NS what does that give you back?

                                      
                                      C:\>dig NS
                                      
                                      ; <<>> DiG 9.11.0-P1 <<>> NS
                                      ;; global options: +cmd
                                      ;; Got answer:
                                      ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 33584
                                      ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 13, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
                                      
                                      ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
                                      ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
                                      ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                      ;.                              IN      NS
                                      
                                      ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                                      .                       487240  IN      NS      j.root-servers.net.
                                      .                       487240  IN      NS      m.root-servers.net.
                                      .                       487240  IN      NS      a.root-servers.net.
                                      .                       487240  IN      NS      c.root-servers.net.
                                      .                       487240  IN      NS      e.root-servers.net.
                                      .                       487240  IN      NS      d.root-servers.net.
                                      .                       487240  IN      NS      k.root-servers.net.
                                      .                       487240  IN      NS      h.root-servers.net.
                                      .                       487240  IN      NS      f.root-servers.net.
                                      .                       487240  IN      NS      i.root-servers.net.
                                      .                       487240  IN      NS      b.root-servers.net.
                                      .                       487240  IN      NS      l.root-servers.net.
                                      .                       487240  IN      NS      g.root-servers.net.
                                      
                                      ;; Query time: 0 msec
                                      ;; SERVER: 192.168.9.253#53(192.168.9.253)
                                      ;; WHEN: Sun Nov 27 09:49:40 Central Standard Time 2016
                                      ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 239
                                      
                                      

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                                        Chrismallia
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                                        yes 192.168.0.1 is my pfsense and left everything default

                                        C:\Users\Chris>dig +trace melita.com

                                        ; <<>> DiG 9.11.0-P1 <<>> +trace melita.com
                                        ;; global options: +cmd
                                        ;; Received 12 bytes from 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1) in 0 ms

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                                          Chrismallia
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                                          C:\Users\Chris>dig NS

                                          ; <<>> DiG 9.11.0-P1 <<>> NS
                                          ;; global options: +cmd
                                          ;; Got answer:
                                          ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 65221
                                          ;; flags: qr rd ra ad; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 13, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1

                                          ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
                                          ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
                                          ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                          ;.                              IN      NS

                                          ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                                          .                      512472  IN      NS      l.root-servers.net.
                                          .                      512472  IN      NS      h.root-servers.net.
                                          .                      512472  IN      NS      d.root-servers.net.
                                          .                      512472  IN      NS      f.root-servers.net.
                                          .                      512472  IN      NS      m.root-servers.net.
                                          .                      512472  IN      NS      a.root-servers.net.
                                          .                      512472  IN      NS      b.root-servers.net.
                                          .                      512472  IN      NS      j.root-servers.net.
                                          .                      512472  IN      NS      k.root-servers.net.
                                          .                      512472  IN      NS      i.root-servers.net.
                                          .                      512472  IN      NS      c.root-servers.net.
                                          .                      512472  IN      NS      e.root-servers.net.
                                          .                      512472  IN      NS      g.root-servers.net.

                                          ;; Query time: 0 msec
                                          ;; SERVER: 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1)
                                          ;; WHEN: Sun Nov 27 16:57:10 W. Europe Standard Time 2016
                                          ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 239

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                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                            WTF???

                                            So try the +trace +nodnssec command on some other domain that works..

                                            say pfsense.org

                                            
                                            C:\>dig +trace +nodnssec pfsense.org
                                            
                                            ; <<>> DiG 9.11.0-P1 <<>> +trace +nodnssec pfsense.org
                                            ;; global options: +cmd
                                            .                       485772  IN      NS      j.root-servers.net.
                                            .                       485772  IN      NS      m.root-servers.net.
                                            .                       485772  IN      NS      a.root-servers.net.
                                            .                       485772  IN      NS      c.root-servers.net.
                                            .                       485772  IN      NS      e.root-servers.net.
                                            .                       485772  IN      NS      d.root-servers.net.
                                            .                       485772  IN      NS      k.root-servers.net.
                                            .                       485772  IN      NS      h.root-servers.net.
                                            .                       485772  IN      NS      f.root-servers.net.
                                            .                       485772  IN      NS      i.root-servers.net.
                                            .                       485772  IN      NS      b.root-servers.net.
                                            .                       485772  IN      NS      l.root-servers.net.
                                            .                       485772  IN      NS      g.root-servers.net.
                                            ;; Received 239 bytes from 192.168.9.253#53(192.168.9.253) in 0 ms
                                            
                                            org.                    172800  IN      NS      b0.org.afilias-nst.org.
                                            org.                    172800  IN      NS      a2.org.afilias-nst.info.
                                            org.                    172800  IN      NS      c0.org.afilias-nst.info.
                                            org.                    172800  IN      NS      a0.org.afilias-nst.info.
                                            org.                    172800  IN      NS      d0.org.afilias-nst.org.
                                            org.                    172800  IN      NS      b2.org.afilias-nst.org.
                                            ;; Received 442 bytes from 192.33.4.12#53(c.root-servers.net) in 13 ms
                                            
                                            pfsense.org.            86400   IN      NS      ns1.netgate.com.
                                            pfsense.org.            86400   IN      NS      ns2.netgate.com.
                                            ;; Received 87 bytes from 199.249.112.1#53(a2.org.afilias-nst.info) in 12 ms
                                            
                                            pfsense.org.            300     IN      A       208.123.73.69
                                            pfsense.org.            300     IN      NS      ns2.netgate.com.
                                            pfsense.org.            300     IN      NS      ns1.netgate.com.
                                            ;; Received 135 bytes from 192.207.126.6#53(ns1.netgate.com) in 54 ms
                                            
                                            

                                            you didn't put in some domain overrides or anything for this melita.com did you???

                                            Ok I was able to duplicate what you saw.. Your ACL is only set to allow vs allow snoop..

                                            
                                            > dig +trace +nodnssec melita.com
                                            
                                            ; <<>> DiG 9.11.0-P1 <<>> +trace +nodnssec melita.com
                                            ;; global options: +cmd
                                            ;; Received 12 bytes from 192.168.9.253#53(192.168.9.253) in 1 ms
                                            
                                            

                                            Go into your unbound acl and change to allow snoop vs allow.. Then try the +trace dig again.

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