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      ted
      last edited by

      Sorry, little confused. If I remove the public DNS servers from the General Setup page, the DNS resolver can't resolve any public addresses. The General setup page indicates that "By default localhost (127.0.0.1) will be used as the first DNS server where the DNS Forwarder or DNS Resolver is enabled and set to listen on Localhost, so system can use the local DNS service to perform lookups."

      Here's my setup.

      Under System - > General Setup ->

      DNS Server 1 8.8.8.8 WAN_DHCP
      DNS Server 2 8.8.4.4 WAN_DHCP

      Do not use the DNS Forwarder as a DNS server for the firewall - unchecked

      Under Services -> DNS Resolver -> General Settings

      Outgoing Network Interfaces - ALL

      DNS Query Forwarding - Enable Forwarding Mode - checked

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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        Not when you uncheck to use it..

        You know they setup the resolver to be default, since it works without having the user do anything.. It resolves and firewall asks it, ie itself so it can resolve local stuff, and public stuff.

        And yet users still mess it up..

        A resolver works by walking down the tree from the roots to find the authoritative server for the domain your looking for.. You do not need to point to any forwarder.. ie googledns for dns to work..

        If you want to use a forwarder, then ok do that - but you still need to have pfsense ask its self first, and then the forwarder/resolver in forwarder mode or resolver mode will either forward or resolve if your looking for something else.

        Unless your not running the forwarder or the resolver on pfsense there is is no need to have anything in the general settings other than loopback, ie itself.

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          ted
          last edited by

          Greatly appreciate the help.

          So if leave all my settings as above but remove the two public DNS servers (8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4) and add 127.0.0.1 under general settings I am unable to resolve any public hosts.

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by

            So are you using the forwarder or the resolver or the resolver in forwarder mode??  Go to diag and lookup.. what happens?

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              ted
              last edited by

              DNS resolver - enabled
              DNS Query Forwarding Enable Forwarding Mode - unchecked

              DNS forwarder - disabled

              If I use Diagnostics / DNS Lookup I am able to resolve all the hosts on my local network except the name of the pfsense fw itself. Internet hosts also resolve fine. 127.0.0.1 is listed as the first nameserver.

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by

                Ok so everything is working.. What is the name of your pfsense box?

                Mine is pfsense.local.lan

                What is yours?

                So what happens when you look for your pfsense name?

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                  ted
                  last edited by

                  That's exactly my problem. All hosts on the local lan and internet resolve fine EXCEPT the pfsense gw box itself.

                  My pfsense gw/router is named "gw.local.lan". If I use the Diagnostics -> DNS lookup page and put in gw.local.lan I am unable to resolve the ip 192.168.0.1. Yes. Local host (127.0.0.1) does respond in ~2ms but does not have an answer for gw.local.lan. Local host 127.0.0.1 is able to resolve all my other host such as tv.local.lan, NAS.local.lan, laptop.local.lan etc.

                  Any thoughts? Can I manually edit the unbound.conf file and add a entry for gw.local.lan?

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    You shouldn't have too..  You sure thats its name.. And you have the host name and the local.lan in the domain section.  Can you post up your screenshot like I showed of mine.

                    But if need be you can create a host override for any name.  But you shouldn't have too.. clearly pfsense should know its own name, so gets me to think something not as you think.

                    You can always look in etc/hosts what do you see there?

                    [2.3.2-RELEASE][root@pfsense.local.lan]/root: cat /etc/hosts
                    127.0.0.1      localhost localhost.local.lan
                    ::1            localhost localhost.local.lan
                    192.168.9.253  pfsense.local.lan pfsense
                    2001:snipped::1    pfsense.local.lan pfsense

                    You should see all your hosts there, and right near the top should be your pfsense name

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                      kpa
                      last edited by

                      Also verify that you have the 127.0.0.1 entry in /etc/resolv.conf as the first line, I'm not sure based on your posts if you already checked that.

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                        ted
                        last edited by

                        So yeah, my /etc/hosts file did NOT have an entry for the pfsense gw. I manually added "192.168.0.1 gw.local.lan gw" and of course things worked fine. However my changes don't persist a reboot. For now I've added a manual host override entry under DNS resolver for gw.local.lan. This ensures that "192.168.0.1 gw.local.lan gw" persists a reboot in /etc/hosts.

                        Something odd is going on here though. As you mentioned the pfsense gw should be automatically added to the /etc/hosts file. I've double checked my System -> General Setup page, my host and domain are entered correctly. This is further confirmed by the fact that when I ssh to a shell my login prompt shows:

                        [2.3.2-RELEASE][admin@gw.local.lan]/root:

                        Any thoughts?

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                          Nullity
                          last edited by

                          Do you get anything when you reverse resolve 192.168.0.1?

                          Please correct any obvious misinformation in my posts.
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                          • jahonixJ
                            jahonix
                            last edited by

                            What do you have at  System: General Setup  for hostname and domain?

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                              ted
                              last edited by

                              W/o the static host override entry a nslookup or ping for gw.local.lan fails, "cannot resolve gw.local.lan: Unknown host"

                              With the static host overide entry nslookups and pings to gw.local.lan works fine.

                              In my System -> General Setup page, I have

                              Hostname: gw

                              Domain: local.lan

                              I'm pretty sure my hostname is setup correctly, when I ssh to a shell my login prompt shows:

                              [2.3.2-RELEASE][admin@gw.local.lan]/root:

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                                limona21
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                                I have the same issue - pfsense is resolving all clients with static DHCP mappings however it is not resolving itself. It worked before but I restored pfsense to factory settings due to OpenVPN (unable to conact deamon) problem - which didnt solve the issue.

                                I also have a very basic setup with no forwarding of queries and nothing like that. DNS resolver is up and running and DNS Server Override is checked. I did check the host file and in fact there is no entry for the pfsense itself but I don't think I should put it there manually. It should've known its name right? When I run "nslookup pfsense" in the terminal is does not return an answer.

                                The configuration is so bare I don't know what to check. Any ideas?
                                I am running version 2.3.3_1

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                                  ted
                                  last edited by

                                  I never found the root cause, tried the same as you and performed a reset to no avial. I left a manual host override entry under DNS resolver for gw.local.lan, ensuring that "192.168.0.1 gw.local.lan gw" persists a reboot in /etc/hosts. Everything else is working fine and as expected.

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                    And you still have it checked to let dhcp override your settings!!  So pfsense is asking who exactly for its own name?

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