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    • jimpJ
      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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      Hardware console access via a cloud service? Talk about a major security vs convenience trade-off.

      None for me, thanks.

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      • NogBadTheBadN
        NogBadTheBad
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        @jimp:

        Hardware console access via a cloud service? Talk about a major security vs convenience trade-off.

        None for me, thanks.

        It is meant more for remote assistance than full time access, handy if you have someone not very experienced trying to fix an issue with a device that's off the network, you connect via the iPhone app connect the the server over 3/4 G then send a random link via email or chat to whoever is assisting you.

        You can even host your own server inside your network.

        Andy

        1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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        • luckman212L
          luckman212 LAYER 8
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          Is access via cloud the only option?  No option to directly connect to the units?

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          • S
            SpivR
            last edited by

            Cloud service is totally an optional setup/enhanced configuration.  By itself, the Airconsole connects locally over Wi-Fi or Bluetooth.  (Sorry if that was not the question).

            In terms of a cloud service, I would guess that if it has, or you can wrap it, with a good two-factor authentication, then it would probably be a reasonable security/access trade-off.  (After all, so much of the Internet runs on Amazon AWS "cloud" servers, right?)

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            • NogBadTheBadN
              NogBadTheBad
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              @luckman212:

              Is access via cloud the only option?  No option to directly connect to the units?

              Yes you connect directly to the units if you are within wifi range.

              Basically it has two radios, one connects to your local wifi the other acts as an AP.

              You then telnet / ssh to the device IP address using port using a non standard port or you browse to the devices web page and access the console part there.

              Andy

              1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                SpivR
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                Not to nit-pick, but I am pretty sure it has only one Wi-Fi radio and simply can configure it either in client mode (to connect to existing Wi-Fi router/network), or in direct/ad-hoc Wi-Fi mode to create its own mini Wi-Fi network.

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                • NogBadTheBadN
                  NogBadTheBad
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                  @SpivR:

                  Not to nit-pick, but I am pretty sure it has only one Wi-Fi radio and simply can configure it either in client mode (to connect to existing Wi-Fi router/network), or in direct/ad-hoc Wi-Fi mode to create its own mini Wi-Fi network.

                  Nope it has two.

                  "Airconsole can now concurrently operate as both an Infrastructure AP for the Airconsole- XX SSID, and simultaneously be a Wireless Client connected to another existing wireless network."

                  https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.freshdesk.com/data/helpdesk/attachments/production/5002473704/original/Airconsole_User_Manual_Full-v2.51.pdf?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=AKIAJ2JSYZ7O3I4JO6DA%2F20161219%2Fus-east-1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20161219T203141Z&X-Amz-Expires=300&X-Amz-Signature=0ebecd4ad5029a07928df1598bf31d8f1999347bbec8a17a5276787ea12f979b&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=Host&response-content-type=application%2Fpdf

                  Andy

                  1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                  • jimpJ
                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                    last edited by

                    At that cost, it's still cheaper to rig up a Pi or similar to multiple units with USB hubs. Probably still cheaper even with wifi on the Pi.

                    You don't get the shiny case or polished UI, but rolling your own VPN for "cloud" style access would be easy.

                    Heck it's almost the same cost to drop an SG-1000 on there to be your console access + OOB management firewall :-)

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                      SpivR
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                      @NogBadTheBad:

                      Nope it has two.

                      "Airconsole can now concurrently operate as both an Infrastructure AP for the Airconsole- XX SSID, and simultaneously be a Wireless Client connected to another existing wireless network."

                      Unclear if that is the case.  I still believe it is one physical radio that is being configured in two modes.  This quote from the doc implies two logical interfaces, not two physical radios:

                      "In AP Client mode an additional “Wireless2” interface is created (called “apcli0”). This interface operates separately and concurrently with the “Wireless1” interface which remains bridged through to the wired LAN port."

                      Wi-Fi radios operate as a shared medium with only one station transmitting at a time.  The "devil in the details" is how the right to transmit is passed along between stations (fairness, error control, bandwidth, etc.).  With the right firmware, a single radio can switch modes between client mode and AP mode on a per transmission basis and create multiple virtual radio interfaces.  This is how most modern Wi-Fi routers can create multiple SSID networks (guest networks, segmented networks, etc.)

                      Only the newer multi-band and true mesh Wi-Fi AP's have multiple physical radios (and are expensive because of that.)

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                      • jahonixJ
                        jahonix
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                        I own and use AirConsoles for some years now.
                        There is only one radio installed in the device.
                        You can configure WiFi and ETH to your liking, separate, bridged, client, server with or without DHCP.

                        If cou can get access to the ETH port of the device remotely then you're good to go.

                        The mini version is absolutely sufficient for what you want to do.
                        The standard version is what it all started with and which I got. It adds a battery that's always empty when you need it - and only lasts about 4 hours fully charged. There's an XL version with a way bigger battery and a clumsy case.
                        The available console cables (serial on RJ45 to USB) are Cisco compatible.

                        Edit: image is of an early version 1 of the device and not the current 2.0

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