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    • DerelictD
      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
      last edited by

      Three ways to assign IPv6 to a host:

      Static
      SLAAC
      DHCPv6

      Two ways to assign IPv6 to a router:
      Static
      DHCPv6 with a prefix delegation.

      What happens on the second router's LAN and what it does with the PD is up to that router.

      SLAAC and DHCPv6 do not set "default gateways" like in IPv4. They are set using router solicitations/advertisements unless statically.configured.

      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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      • ?
        Guest
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        Yes, i've found that out.  :)

        As i said, the ping goes all the way out to the wan as router 2 knows where to forward the packets to. On the reply,  router 1 receives  the packet but does not know to forward it to the 2nd router.

        For now I've added a static route and gateway and it's working. Its not a configuration I intend to use often, but I'm playing with dibbler and needed it configured that way for testing.

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        • DerelictD
          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
          last edited by

          A proper PD from the first router should also create a route for that PD to the downstream router's WAN interface.

          My DHCP6 server is 2.3.2_1, however. Should be 2.4 real soon now. In fact. This is as good a time as any.

          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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            Guest
            last edited by

            @Derelict:

            A proper PD from the first router should also create a route for that PD to the downstream router's WAN interface.

            My DHCP6 server is 2.3.2_1, however. Should be 2.4 real soon now. In fact. This is as good a time as any.

            Running 2.4 on both routers, not there yet or if it is, mine doesnt work!

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by

              Haven't gotten there yet but also have not heard oany problems there so it's probably something you've done.

              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                Guest
                last edited by

                @marjohn did you get to the bottom of this ?

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                  Guest
                  last edited by

                  Nix…

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                  • MikeV7896M
                    MikeV7896
                    last edited by

                    It should be noted that if router 1 gets its IPv6 prefix from your ISP via DHCPv6-PD, pfSense is not set up to subdelegate parts of that prefix to downstream routers (unless this has changed in 2.4; it doesn't work in 2.3.2).

                    For example… if you get a /56 or /60 from your ISP via DHCPv6-PD, you can't sub-delegate /64's to downstream routers on your network.

                    The S in IOT stands for Security

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                    • DerelictD
                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                      last edited by

                      I don't see why you couldn't slice out a piece of the delegated prefix for dhcpv6 downstream PD.

                      You would need at least one interface outside that set as track interface or the PD will not happen.

                      You would also have to manually change the DHCPv6 PD config if the ISP gave you a different PD.

                      Haven't tested though. All my DHCPv6 server PDs are from a static /48 here. (HE)

                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                        Guest
                        last edited by

                        @Derelict:

                        I don't see why you couldn't slice out a piece of the delegated prefix for dhcpv6 downstream PD.

                        You would need at least one interface outside that set as track interface or the PD will not happen.

                        You would also have to manually change the DHCPv6 PD config if the ISP gave you a different PD.

                        Haven't tested though. All my DHCPv6 server PDs are from a static /48 here. (HE)

                        And indeed you can, but you'll need to manually set that route and gateway up. I've been through 2.4's code and I cannot see anywhere where DHCPD or any hooks from dhcpd will set up that route and gateway for you.

                        As I said, not a major issue or me anyway, and I know for a fact that the ISP's supplied routers are not capable of anything like that at present. Maybe down the road it will happen.

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                        • DerelictD
                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                          last edited by

                          Not a problem in 2.4.

                          Just routed a /56 to a 2.4 VM and set up /60 PDs behind it. Client is also 2.4.

                          Routing table:
                          2001:470:xxxx:7df0::/60 2001:470:xxxx:7e01::32a2 UGS 0 1500 xn0

                          DHCPv6 leases:
                          2001:470:xxxx:7df0::/60
                          Routed To: 2001:470:xxxx:7e01::32a2

                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                            Guest
                            last edited by

                            I take it back :)

                            The question is then, what I am I doing wrong that you are doing right, or maybe it just won't work were LAN IPv6 tracks the WAN interface.

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                            • DerelictD
                              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                              last edited by

                              The client VM there is a default config with DHCPv6 on WAN and tracking LAN.

                              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                Guest
                                last edited by

                                So what does your prefix delegation range entry look like on the dhcp6 server and RA when you have selected /60 as the prefix delegation size?

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                                • DerelictD
                                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                  last edited by

                                  Routed subnet: 2001:470:xxxx:7d00::/56

                                  Prefix delegation range:
                                  From: 2001:470:xxxx:7d00:: To: 2001:470:xxxx:7df0::
                                  Prefix delegation size: 60

                                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                    Guest
                                    last edited by

                                    Ah, I think I see the error of my ways.

                                    I'll confirm that shortly.

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                                      Guest
                                      last edited by

                                      Indeed yes… Thank you Derelict. Simple error on my part.

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                                      • ?
                                        Guest
                                        last edited by

                                        Care to share your settings in the GUI ?

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                                          Guest
                                          last edited by

                                          What for IPv6? or are you still trying to get v4 to work arse backwards? :P

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                                          • ?
                                            Guest
                                            last edited by

                                            IPv6

                                            I realised after your tutoring that my IPv4 looback idea would just stupid :-)

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