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    • Y Offline
      yodaphone
      last edited by

      @JonSLC:

      Hello everyone! Thank you for all of the hard work and documentation you have provide here on the forums!!

      I have a WatchGuard SSL100. This unit only had the IDE 40gb drive, no CF. The drive died and I thought what the hell let’s give pfsense a go.
      I have an old cisco 32MB CF I was able to load freedos on and flash the bios. Now I can get to the bios change the boot devices etc. with the console cable using 115200. The problem I am having now is that once it gets to PCI device listing… I can no longer connect to the console (or I am not getting any output). The front LCD Read “Booting OS…” I have tried 9600, 8 N 1, hardware on hardware off etc. 4 Different cables 3 different machines, nothing works. No matter how long I leave it sitting it just sits at “Booting OS”.
      What gives?
      I  have a new IDE drive with pfsense already loaded on it and I also have a 32GB transend CF that I have flashed. I can’t even tell if it’s trying to boot or not.
      Please advise, thank you!

      Please follow this Guide. https://www.hexhound.com/how-to-flash-pfsense-2-1-to-a-watchguard-firebox-x750e-x550e-ssl-500/

      If you use memstick version then it wont work for you with these boxes. you  need to use embedded versions.

      Make sure you enable ACPI in BIOS. Instructions in the earlier link.
      Also please follow this link to ensure that you disable DMA. pfsense no longer disables this for you https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=20095.msg480824#msg480824

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      • J Offline
        JonSLC
        last edited by

        Thanks for the tips but still no luck.  :'(

        Here is the odd part - Since flashing the bios, I can no longer boot from my 32mb CF drive with FreeDOS. I get the same problem, no console output.

        I have tried swapping back and forth from 9600, 115200. I have tried 5 cables, 3 pcs now, 2 CF cards, and a 40gb ide 5400rpm hdd. Nothing just " pfSemse B7, Loading OS …

        Did flashing the bios brick it? I dont think so as i can get to the bios all day long and change settings etc. I just can no longer connect once it starts to boot.

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        • chpalmerC Offline
          chpalmer
          last edited by

          Still sounds like video re-direct to me.

          This particular unit doesn't have a second com port does it?

          Triggering snowflakes one by one..
          Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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          • J Offline
            JonSLC
            last edited by

            No, just the one in the front, standard serial. Man if they would have just put a VGA and USB under the lid….

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            • Y Offline
              yodaphone
              last edited by

              @JonSLC:

              Thanks for the tips but still no luck.  :'(

              Here is the odd part - Since flashing the bios, I can no longer boot from my 32mb CF drive with FreeDOS. I get the same problem, no console output.

              I have tried swapping back and forth from 9600, 115200. I have tried 5 cables, 3 pcs now, 2 CF cards, and a 40gb ide 5400rpm hdd. Nothing just " pfSemse B7, Loading OS …

              Did flashing the bios brick it? I dont think so as i can get to the bios all day long and change settings etc. I just can no longer connect once it starts to boot.

              do you still have your original wathguard boot CF? if not just follow the link to get the backup & see if it can boot from that.

              i doubt it could've bricked the bios

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              • chpalmerC Offline
                chpalmer
                last edited by

                I read this assuming your system had past BIOS and was starting to load..  Dont pay any attention to the LCD..  It will say the same thing even once pfSense is fully booted.

                Get into BIOS and see if you can set your system video emulation to VT100.

                Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                • J Offline
                  JonSLC
                  last edited by

                  @yodaphone

                  No, this unit did not come with a CF, it came with a 40gb IDE 5400rpm 2.5hdd. Sorry I dont see your link.

                  Thanks,

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                  • J Offline
                    JonSLC
                    last edited by

                    @chpalmer:

                    I read this assuming your system had past BIOS and was starting to load..  Dont pay any attention to the LCD..  It will say the same thing even once pfSense is fully booted.

                    Get into BIOS and see if you can set your system video emulation to VT100.

                    Thanks for the tip, but i do not see VT100 anywhere in the bios only this:

                    Console Redirection        Enabled              |                        |
                    |    Baud Rate                [115200]              |                        |
                    |    Agent Connect via        [NULL]                |                        |
                    |    Agent wait time(sec)      [3]                    |                        |
                    |    Agent after boot          [Enabled]              |                        |
                    |    Report No FDD For WIN 95  [No]                  |                        |
                    |    Small Logo(EPA) Show      [Disabled]          V |                        |

                    Here is where it hangs:

                    Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally
                      Copyright (C) 1984-2003, Phoenix Technologies, LTD

                    **** BIOS Ver.ETAC0017 mod V1.7 comconsole on com1 115200 ****

                    Main Processor : Genuine Intel(R) processor 1.30GHz(100x13.0)
                    Memory Testing : 2088960K OK +  8M shared memory

                    IDE Channel 0 Master : TS32GCF400 20160322
                    IDE Channel 0 Slave  : None
                                              Phoenix Technologies, LTD
                                                System Configurations
                    +==============================================================================+
                    | CPU Type  : Genuine Intel(R) processor  Base Memory      :    640K          |
                    | CPU ID/uco: 0695/45                    Extended Memory  :2087936K          |
                    | CPU Clock : 1.30GHz                    Cache Memory      :    512K          |
                    |–----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
                    | Pri. Master Disk  : CHS,PIO 4,32021MB  Display Type      : EGA/VGA          |
                    | Pri. Slave  Disk  : None                Serial Port(s)    : 3F8 2F8          |
                    | Sec. Master Disk  : None                Parallel Port(s)  : None            |
                    | Sec. Slave  Disk  : None                DDR2 at Bank(s)  : 0 2              |
                    +==============================================================================+

                    PCI device listing ...
                    Bus No. Device No. Func No. Vendor/Device Class Device Class              IRQ

                    0      2        0    8086  2592  0300  Display Cntrlr              5
                        0      29        0    8086  2658  0C03  USB 1.0/1.1 UHCI Cntrlr      7
                        0      29        1    8086  2659  0C03  USB 1.0/1.1 UHCI Cntrlr    11
                        0      29        2    8086  265A  0C03  USB 1.0/1.1 UHCI Cntrlr    10
                        0      29        3    8086  265B  0C03  USB 1.0/1.1 UHCI Cntrlr      5
                        0      29        7    8086  265C  0C03  USB 2.0 EHCI Cntrlr          7
                        0      31        1    8086  266F  0101  IDE Cntrlr                  14
                        1      4        0    177D  0003  1000  ACPI Controllerntrlr        9

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                    • chpalmerC Offline
                      chpalmer
                      last edited by

                      How long have you waited for anything to happen?

                      Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                      Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                      • J Offline
                        JonSLC
                        last edited by

                        Left it "booting os" while we went to lunch today. No change.

                        I have tried:
                        Booting from old Cisco CF 32mb with freedos with 115200, 8,N,1 also 9600, 8,N,1
                        Booting from brand new Transcend CF 32GB flashed with 4GB i386 Embedded Nano, Serial 2.3.2 Release with 115200, 8,N,1 and 9600, 8,N,1
                        40GB IDE 2.5 HDD (put in laptop, loaded 2.3.2 from CD, enabled serial console during install, then swapped over to the watchguard
                        I have also tried not connecting the console cable till after the mem check.

                        All of these produce the exact same result. Posts, checks mem ok, detects drives fine, then hangs after PCI device listing…
                        This is all i get in the console:

                        Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG, An Energy Star Ally
                          Copyright (C) 1984-2003, Phoenix Technologies, LTD

                        **** BIOS Ver.ETAC0017 mod V1.7 comconsole on com1 115200 ****

                        Main Processor : Genuine Intel(R) processor 1.30GHz(100x13.0)
                        Memory Testing : 2088960K OK +  8M shared memory

                        IDE Channel 0 Master : TOSHIBA THNCF032MBA 2.00
                        IDE Channel 0 Slave  : None
                                                  Phoenix Technologies, LTD
                                                    System Configurations
                        +==============================================================================+
                        | CPU Type  : Genuine Intel(R) processor  Base Memory      :    640K          |
                        | CPU ID/uco: 0695/45                    Extended Memory  :2087936K          |

                        CPU Clock : 1.30GHz                    Cache Memory      :    512K
                        Pri. Master Disk  : CHS,PIO 2,  32MB  Display Type      : EGA/VGA
                        Pri. Slave  Disk  : None                Serial Port(s)    : 3F8 2F8
                        Sec. Master Disk  : None                Parallel Port(s)  : 378
                        Sec. Slave  Disk  : None                DDR2 at Bank(s)  : 0 2
                        +==============================================================================+

                        PCI device listing ...
                        Bus No. Device No. Func No. Vendor/Device Class Device Class              IRQ

                        0      2        0    8086  2592  0300  Display Cntrlr              5
                            0      29        0    8086  2658  0C03  USB 1.0/1.1 UHCI Cntrlr      9
                            0      29        1    8086  2659  0C03  USB 1.0/1.1 UHCI Cntrlr    11
                            0      29        2    8086  265A  0C03  USB 1.0/1.1 UHCI Cntrlr    10
                            0      29        3    8086  265B  0C03  USB 1.0/1.1 UHCI Cntrlr      5
                            0      29        7    8086  265C  0C03  USB 2.0 EHCI Cntrlr          9
                            0      31        3    8086  266A  0C05  SMBus Cntrlr                11
                            1      0        0    11AB  4320  0200  Network Cntrlr              5
                            1      1        0    11AB  4320  0200  Network Cntrlr              12
                            1      2        0    11AB  4320  0200  Network Cntrlr              10
                            1      3        0    11AB  4320  0200  Network Cntrlr              11
                            1      4        0    177D  0003  1000  En/Decryption Cntrlr        11

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                        • stephenw10S Offline
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          You should be using the v8.1 BIOS which I modded from the SSL BIOS. It's newer and can boot any size CF card and most HD without messing about with CHS settings.

                          See: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=20095.msg383842#msg383842

                          You will need to copy that to your CF card and be able to boot it though. I would clear the CMOS if you have not already done so. Then go into the BIOS and have it auto detect your 32MB card. It should boot that.

                          Steve

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                          • J Offline
                            JonSLC
                            last edited by

                            Thanks Stephen, I was hoping you would reply.
                            I have re imaged my 32mb CF with the FreeDOSBios2.img, copied over the XEBIOS_81.bin. Cleared the CMOS. I still have the same result.
                            I can get to the bios just fine, it detects anything I have put in it (including the IDE drive) just fine, it just wont boot…
                            I have another CF (4GB ) coming in the mail here today I can try but I really dont think that will change anything here.

                            Any other ideas you all have would be most welcome.

                            Thanks!

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                            • stephenw10S Offline
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              That's the same CF card and Freedos image that you used to flash the v7 image originally?

                              And it not getting to the 3 beeps?

                              To boot that card I would expect to have to have the BIOS values at their defaults, IDE channels set to auto. And it might not boot the first time after a cmos clear. It will boot and complain about a checksum error but should detect the card and boot correctly on the second attempt.

                              Can you confirm the CF is bootable in anything else? Not many people have CF bootable stuff to hand any longer.  ;)

                              Steve

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                              • J Offline
                                JonSLC
                                last edited by

                                Correct. Old Cisco 32MB i had laying around. My SSL 100 did not have CF card installed from factory. It had a 40GB IDE 2.5 (that went bad).

                                No, triple beep, ever. Just the 1 beep when it first powers up.

                                Phoenix - AwardBIOS CMOS Setup Utility
                                                            IDE Channel 0 Master
                                +=====================================================+========================+
                                |    IDE HDD Auto-Detection    [Press Enter]
                                |    IDE Channel 0 Master      [Auto]
                                |    Access Mode                  [Auto]
                                |    Capacity                        32 MB
                                |    Cylinder                          496 
                                |    Head                              4 
                                |    Precomp                        0 
                                |    Landing Zone                495
                                |    Sector                          32

                                I used this card with the default setting originally to flash the bios. I have another Transcend 32 GB CF here that gives me the same results. Also in the mail and should be here today a 4GB to try (just in case)
                                I dont have any other devices that use CF at the moment (other than my card reader).

                                Thanks for your time!

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                                • J Offline
                                  JonSLC
                                  last edited by

                                  I just got brand new 4GB SanDisk Ultra in from Amazon. Same deal…
                                  Cant say we didnt try

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                                  • stephenw10S Offline
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Hmm, well if that card worked the first time I can't really see any reason it would not work again.

                                    You wrote the image to it a second time? Or just copied the bios image onto the card directly?

                                    I would have to try flashing the card again to be sure. Maybe use a different flashing program or write 0s to it first to sure it's clean.

                                    Steve

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                                    • Y Offline
                                      yodaphone
                                      last edited by

                                      @JonSLC:

                                      I just got brand new 4GB SanDisk Ultra in from Amazon. Same deal…
                                      Cant say we didnt try

                                      if you're using windows try this tool. i had better success using this than rufus & win32imager (both are great but it dont work for me this time)

                                      http://m0n0.ch/wall/physdiskwrite.php

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                                      • J Offline
                                        JonSLC
                                        last edited by

                                        I want to thank you all for taking the time to help me and for sharing your knowledge!

                                        I have come to the conclusion that this motherboard is toast. I have taken all 3 of those CF cards and stuck them in the reader and booted my laptop off them just fine. Putting them back into the WG SSL100, fails to boot anything.

                                        I have learned a lot from this and have purchased a XTM5 (on its way here now!!) I am certain I will have much better results. I have my CF ready to go as well as more RAM and dual core proc. Cant wait to share my results next week with you all!

                                        Thanks again!

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                                        • chpalmerC Offline
                                          chpalmer
                                          last edited by

                                          You will like the XTM5 better anyhow.  :)

                                          Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                                          Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                                          • stephenw10S Offline
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            I won't disagree there. The XTM5 is much nicer. Of course you could have bought our hardware… ;)

                                            It could be an entirely coincidental hardware failure but it seems unlikely. Very strange. I would not expect it to boot into the BIOS if it was a failure.  :-\

                                            Steve

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