Smite and applaud list
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is there a way to view who is giving me smite's?
thanks
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No I asked the same question some time ago, when some idiot thought he would smite me every time he logged in because he didn't like one of my comments. In a 2 day period got like 30 smites. And it was funny that the number would be +1 right after his last login time.. And that went on for quite some time.. My actual number should prob be more in the teens.. ;)
I spend an unhealthy amount of time logged into the board.. So its quite easy to see number go up, and oh isn't that funny that idiot just logged in again ;)
But when I asked the mods before there is no way to see who is doing the smiting.. A post pisses you off, sure smite it – but you doing it every hour on the hour is kind of childish and kind of skews the numbers.
But clearly someone or multiple's didn't like your crying about "rude" on a public forum would be my guess..
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I don't understand why some people feel the need to do that. There was a rough patch there and you got some heat, but it's not like you're a bad person or something. We all make mistakes, and people should learn to move on. I take my reputation here quite seriously, and I would never give anyone a smite unless they truly deserved it. Most of my smites came from one particular person. You got exactly one smite from me, and that was in response to one you gave me.
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Ooh, yikes. It does seem like your neg karma went up by like 10 recently. :(
I gave a few initially, but like KOM said, you're doing pretty good lately, chrcoluk. :)
It kinda sucks that tons of dislikes can be pumped out by a single person. I think Derelict's high neg karma came suddenly, which is seemingly an undeserved occurence.Digital karma is a very confusing phenomenon… I try not to care, but...
PS - Seriously, who would downvote KOM?! :)
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KOM I may have gave you one smite yes, as I remember giving a couple out. But then like you said I see no point in holding grudges and doing repeated stuff like that it is childish. I dont know how you knew was me tho :)
All my recent posts in other threads I believe should not upset anyone so it kinda shocked me how rapidly its rising.
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"I think Derelict's high neg karma came suddenly"
Yeah he ran into the same thing as me.. Some kid didn't like something he said and click, click, click every time they were on the page.. Or its not all that hard to write a script to do it.. Kom would you like your neg to hit 1000 really quick? ;) hehehe
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I dont know how you knew was me tho :)
When you're at -16 for more than a year and then after an exchange it's at -17, it's not very hard to figure out.
Kom would you like your neg to hit 1000 really quick? ;)
I'm crushing your head, crush crush…
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Allowing anyone to view who gave a +/- on karma would open the door for retaliation over meaningless Internet points. Far too many downsides and little to no benefit to knowing who did it.
Not even admins can see who clicked applaud/smite, but we can edit the numbers directly.
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Digital karma is a very confusing phenomenon… I try not to care, but...
PS - Seriously, who would downvote KOM?! :)
I would. And probably have at some point along the way. Have probably given most of the regulars here one at some point along the way. What's the point in even having it if it's not to be used. But I don't engage in karma wars. It's bad karma.
Some kid didn't like something he said and click, click, click every time they were on the page.. Or its not all that hard to write a script to do it.. Kom would you like your neg to hit 1000 really quick? ;) hehehe
Don't get me started man. I have background in web load/stress testing. Could put you all over the moon in a matter of minutes.
Not that it would take much experience. Like John said. Nothing some punk kid couldn't do.Allowing anyone to view who gave a +/- on karma would open the door for retaliation over meaningless Internet points. Far too many downsides and little to no benefit to knowing who did it.
Not even admins can see who clicked applaud/smite, but we can edit the numbers directly.
I sort of like the way it's done at DSL reports on a per post basis. There, everyone can see the quantity per post, but only the poster can see who gave them. Also for most forums only up votes are enabled.
In the DSL reports scheme I'd prefer the down votes be enabled also, but also not show the poster who they are by to avoid karma wars.
Is much more useful I think to see what post are liked and disliked. Than just an unassociated overal user karma.The user karma ratings here far as I am concerned are meaningless because they are not associated with anything. No way to tell if some users karma rating is frivolous.
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My actual number should prob be more in the teens.. ;)
And mine should be about +10000/-0.
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Yeah. I still get a few per week. Love ya'.
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My Ratio is better than your Derelict?? Yeah that doesn't make lot of sense… I am way more likely to post something that pisses someone off ;)
"over meaningless Internet points"
Meaningless - you mean they are nothing more than reddit karma?? I thought the ratio was the actual of length of your e-penis? Well WTF??
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My own opinion is it should be positive only, to only provide a happyness feeling in the community.
If negative is allowed, I think allowing it to be done anonymously and without a reason just is inviting abuse.
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over meaningless Internet points
They're not meaningless. In a tech forum, the karma score can show you who is helpful & dedicated vs Joe Rando who just popped in and is spouting nonsense replies. Low karma does not equal bad advice, but high karma tends to consistently have the correct information.
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@KOM:
over meaningless Internet points
They're not meaningless. In a tech forum, the karma score can show you who is helpful & dedicated vs Joe Rando who just popped in and is spouting nonsense replies. Low karma does not equal bad advice, but high karma tends to consistently have the correct information.
Or a clique of people boosting each other. Or people inflating their own, etc. The karma ratings here are useless. Even John presents evidence of that.
My Ratio is better than your Derelict?? Yeah that doesn't make lot of sense… I am way more likely to post something that pisses someone off ;)
One vote up/down per message so that others can see which messages are valued, and is used to make up a posters karma +/- I think would be much more useful and due to the one vote up/down per message helps keep it from being abused.
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Well, since they're apparently useless, why are we wasting time talking about them at all then?
/thread
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@KOM:
Well, since they're apparently useless, why are we wasting time talking about them at all then?
/thread
To inform those who seem to think they are meaningful just how useless they are. Also to provide input on what would make them meaningful and useful. This is after all the "feedback" forum.
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@KOM:
Well, since they're apparently useless, why are we wasting time talking about them at all then?
/thread
lol… well played.
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@KOM:
Well, since they're apparently useless, why are we wasting time talking about them at all then?
/thread
lol… well played.
Poorly played. Much lack of understanding very apparent of value of discussion and feedback.
Our opinions are just as valid as yours. We lack understanding because we don't agree with you? :(
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@KOM:
Well, since they're apparently useless, why are we wasting time talking about them at all then?
/thread
lol… well played.
Poorly played. Much lack of understanding very apparent of value of discussion and feedback.
Our opinions are just as valid as yours. We lack understanding because we don't agree with you? :(
Likewise. And I'm sharing my opinion. Then KOM suddenly wants the thread closed rather than discussing. A very typical response used to squelch opposition when ones position is weak.
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@KOM:
Well, since they're apparently useless, why are we wasting time talking about them at all then?
/thread
lol… well played.
Poorly played. Much lack of understanding very apparent of value of discussion and feedback.
Our opinions are just as valid as yours. We lack understanding because we don't agree with you? :(
Likewise. And I'm sharing my opinion. Then KOM suddenly wants the thread closed rather than discussing. A very typical response used to squelch opposition when ones position is weak.
You misunderstood what KOM meant. "/thread" was meant in jest, like an online forum version of a mic-drop.
He definitely wasn't literally requesting that we shut down this thread.
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@KOM:
Well, since they're apparently useless, why are we wasting time talking about them at all then?
/thread
lol… well played.
Poorly played. Much lack of understanding very apparent of value of discussion and feedback.
Our opinions are just as valid as yours. We lack understanding because we don't agree with you? :(
Likewise. And I'm sharing my opinion. Then KOM suddenly wants the thread closed rather than discussing. A very typical response used to squelch opposition when ones position is weak.
You misunderstood what KOM meant. "/thread" was meant in jest, like an online forum version of a mic-drop.
He definitely wasn't literally requesting that we shut down this thread.
So now you are the voice of KOM?
If KOM's close thread request was in jest then there are ways to make that clear with more than a dozen emoji cons to chose from. Usually when people request a thread lock they are not joking. And mods don't seem to take it as a joke.
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I cannot believe that this thread has gotten so silly so quickly.
Yes, I was joking.
No, I did not want the thread closed.
Can we stop arguing about this nonsense now, please? I'm regretting ever replying in the first place.
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@KOM:
I cannot believe that this thread has gotten so silly so quickly.
Yes, I was joking.
No, I did not want the thread closed.
Can we stop arguing about this nonsense now, please? I'm regretting ever replying in the first place.
I don't feel that providing feedback for improvements is silly at all.
As for nonsense needing to be stopped. You're the one making jokes rather than providing serious input on how the ratings system could be improved.
As for your involvement in the thread. Only you can control that.
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Actually Id like to know why a smite happened. But then again I couldn't really care less.
edit= and as I come back to edit "why" to "what comment contributed" I see I got my first smite.. ;D ;D ;D
LMAO!
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And after re- certifying for a particular "over the shoulder snooping test yesterday- my wife begins laughing from behind me as I posted that. :o
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smites piling up again I assume due to my posts in here https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=125105.0
Smiting someone because you dont agree with their opinion is abusive in my opinion, smite someone if they rude or just trolling but for just offering an opinion?
I think someone is toying with me, another smite right after this post. Great system abuse galore. Might get 50 smites by end of day?
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It's good to have a thread around like this so people know it's nothing definitive, just a general guide and though it's vaguely useful, it's not great.
But complaining about it only seems to generate more negativity.
Not even the admins can see what users clicked smite or applaud, nor can anyone see what post generated the click.
Maybe they have changed that behavior in newer versions of SMF but I'm not holding my breath.
So take it with a giant grain of salt, and don't take it personally.
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It needs to be at least … 3 times that big.
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I understand why you saying what you saying, but to me, who comes on the forum, takes time to post, to help others, or to ask for help, and I am getting feedback that sort of says "you not welcome here, go away".
I cannot see why that feedback is given, and who gave it, so I dont know what I have done wrong in that person's eyes. But it does encourage me to give up on the forum.
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I understand why you saying what you saying, but to me, who comes on the forum, takes time to post, to help others, or to ask for help, and I am getting feedback that sort of says "you not welcome here, go away".
I cannot see why that feedback is given, and who gave it, so I dont know what I have done wrong in that person's eyes. But it does encourage me to give up on the forum.
I understand that but my take away when I see another negative karma is to generally try to be less of a dick, which I can always put more effort into.
In my opinion, most people do actually have a karma rating that reflects their actual conduct on this forum.
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In my opinion, most people do actually have a karma rating that reflects their actual conduct on this forum.
It's not the "most people" that is the issue though. It's the few who have ratings that are quite skewed from their behavior. Forum readers who have been around for a while get a feel for who they are. But it can be quite misleading to new forum readers/members/participants.
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