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    pglover19
    last edited by Apr 2, 2017, 3:12 PM

    @stephenw10:

    That would be more difficult. You would probably need to install pfSense in some other machine first then move the SSD. You could use the XTM5 you have to do that. As long as you only assign the em NICs it will boot in the XTM8.

    Steve

    On the install on the XTM 525, I have a LAGG LAN connection using interface em3 & em4.  So, I am wondering if I can make a disk copy of the XTM 525 SSD and use it in the XTM 810?

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      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by Apr 2, 2017, 8:05 PM

      You could do that as long as you don;t have the fxp NIC assigned. Since that doesn't exist on the XTM8 it will stop at the assign interfaces screen (which you won't be able to see) waiting for you input if it is.

      Though I would probably just install fresh onto the new SSD in the XTM5 then move it across to minimise any additional config you don't need.

      Steve

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        pglover19
        last edited by Apr 2, 2017, 10:58 PM

        @stephenw10:

        You could do that as long as you don;t have the fxp NIC assigned. Since that doesn't exist on the XTM8 it will stop at the assign interfaces screen (which you won't be able to see) waiting for you input if it is.

        Though I would probably just install fresh onto the new SSD in the XTM5 then move it across to minimise any additional config you don't need.

        Steve

        So which pfsense installer should I use?

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          pglover19
          last edited by Apr 3, 2017, 10:59 AM Apr 3, 2017, 9:42 AM

          Will the WGXepc64 program work on the XTM 810? If yes, please answer the following questions:

          1. What folder should be the file be stored in?
          2. How do you run the program automatically on startup?

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by Apr 3, 2017, 11:53 AM

            Use whichever installer you used previously on the XTM5 It's the same image type for the XTM8 only the console difference prevents you using it directly.

            WGXepc64 will run but may not recognise the box. I've never had access to one to look at the values and add the code.

            You can add it to /conf as described here: https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Controlling_hardware_with_WGXepc
            In Nano that is shared between slices and kept across an upgrade.

            Steve

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              pglover19
              last edited by Apr 3, 2017, 12:42 PM

              @stephenw10:

              Use whichever installer you used previously on the XTM5 It's the same image type for the XTM8 only the console difference prevents you using it directly.

              WGXepc64 will run but may not recognise the box. I've never had access to one to look at the values and add the code.

              You can add it to /conf as described here: https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Controlling_hardware_with_WGXepc
              In Nano that is shared between slices and kept across an upgrade.

              Steve

              I got pfsense installed on a SSD and assigned the LAN interface to em0.

              How do I run the WGXepc program on start up? Is there a startup file somewhere?

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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by Apr 3, 2017, 5:06 PM

                You can use shellcmd to run it at startup, either via the package or manually entering the xml:
                https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Executing_commands_at_boot_time

                Steve

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                  pglover19
                  last edited by Apr 4, 2017, 1:10 AM

                  Received the XTM 810 today and I can't get pfsense to boot from a SSD. Additionally I can't get vga to work. What am I going to do?

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                    pglover19
                    last edited by Apr 4, 2017, 2:08 AM

                    Got it all working finally.. I had the pin configuration on the make shift VGA cable outlined in this thread wrong. Now able to see pfsense on the screen and configure the LAN and WAN interfaces. I will complete the remaining configuration from the WEB GUI…

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                      pglover19
                      last edited by Apr 4, 2017, 3:20 AM Apr 4, 2017, 3:11 AM

                      Here are some photos of my make shift VGA connector based on some posts in this thread.

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                        pglover19
                        last edited by Apr 5, 2017, 12:52 AM

                        The  WGXepc64 program does not work on the XTM 810. What option do I have to turn down the fans?

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                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by Apr 5, 2017, 12:26 PM

                          You may be able to set the target temperature or the minimum fan speed in the BIOS. The PSU fan is not controllable though obviously.
                          It looks like there are some settings there: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=61970.msg334448#msg334448

                          Replace the fans with quieter ones is always an option.

                          Steve

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                            pglover19
                            last edited by Apr 5, 2017, 2:46 PM

                            @stephenw10:

                            You may be able to set the target temperature or the minimum fan speed in the BIOS. The PSU fan is not controllable though obviously.
                            It looks like there are some settings there: https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=61970.msg334448#msg334448

                            Replace the fans with quieter ones is always an option.

                            Steve

                            I thought the BIOS was locked.

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by Apr 5, 2017, 4:05 PM

                              I might be, I don't have access to one of these boxes to check. It was on the XTM5.

                              In which case swapping out the fans might be your best option. Or unlocking the BIOS yourself.  ;)

                              I assume WGXepc reports it did't find a firebox?

                              Steve

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                                pglover19
                                last edited by Apr 5, 2017, 4:09 PM

                                @stephenw10:

                                I might be, I don't have access to one of these boxes to check. It was on the XTM5.

                                In which case swapping out the fans might be your best option. Or unlocking the BIOS yourself.  ;)

                                I assume WGXepc reports it did't find a firebox?

                                Steve

                                Yes… That is the message I received..

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                                  mppkll
                                  last edited by Apr 11, 2017, 1:10 AM

                                  Stephenw10,

                                  I'm getting "ELF interpreter /libexec/lad-elf.so.1 not found, error 8" when I try to run WGXepc. An I missing something?  This is a fresh install from a memstick image to a SDD running on the XTM 810.  Also how would one go about finding the hardware registers to add to WGXepc?  I have a copy of the BIOS and some documentation from lanner on the FW-8750 MB that the XTM 8 is based.

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                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by Apr 11, 2017, 10:31 PM

                                    It's probably the 32bit version on a 64bit install (or vice versa).

                                    As you say there's no code in there for the XTM8 (yet) anyway.

                                    You can see how we found the registers for the XTM5 here (and in the previous few posts):
                                    https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=43574.msg261279#msg261279

                                    It wouldn't surprise me to find they are in the the exact same place on the XTM8.

                                    Steve

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                                      mppkll
                                      last edited by Apr 11, 2017, 11:49 PM Apr 11, 2017, 11:45 PM

                                      I've figured out a lot since last post,

                                      1st the Super IO chip is a IT8718F and it is handleing the both the environmental control and gpio.

                                      2nd I was able to extract the modules from the BIOS and found that some of the super IO devices are disabled (COM port 1 most importantly) so changing settings in an unlocked BIOS still wont help that.  Also some close inspection of the hardware, TTL to RS232 chips are missing from the MB so COM 1 is a write off.

                                      3rd I got the datasheets from the Super IO chip and have figured out how to set the chip into MB PnP mode to read and change a fan control register (there are 5 fans controls and 3 temp registers).

                                      4th I hope you don't mind, I am working on a new version of the WGXepc for the XTM 8 only (as the super IO is different), I'm focusing on fan control but I think LCD and LED may be possable, looking at the BIOS Super IO boot and register blocks it looks like parallel port and 3 GPIO pins are in use for the LCD/LED/Keypad board.  Of course I will post it as I go.

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                                        pglover19
                                        last edited by Apr 12, 2017, 12:19 AM

                                        @mppkll:

                                        I've figured out a lot since last post,

                                        1st the Super IO chip is a IT8718F and it is handleing the both the environmental control and gpio.

                                        2nd I was able to extract the modules from the BIOS and found that some of the super IO devices are disabled (COM port 1 most importantly) so changing settings in an unlocked BIOS still wont help that.  Also some close inspection of the hardware, TTL to RS232 chips are missing from the MB so COM 1 is a write off.

                                        3rd I got the datasheets from the Super IO chip and have figured out how to set the chip into MB PnP mode to read and change a fan control register (there are 5 fans controls and 3 temp registers).

                                        4th I hope you don't mind, I am working on a new version of the WGXepc for the XTM 8 only (as the super IO is different), I'm focusing on fan control but I think LCD and LED may be possable, looking at the BIOS Super IO boot and register blocks it looks like parallel port and 3 GPIO pins are in use for the LCD/LED/Keypad board.  Of course I will post it as I go.

                                        I am eagerly awaiting your results since I own a XTM 810 unit. I would love to be able to control the fans and the LCD/LED.

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                                          fmertz
                                          last edited by Apr 12, 2017, 1:32 AM

                                          @pglover19:

                                          I would love to be able to control the LCD/LED.

                                          You might want to give a try to the lcdproc package, and configure it to use the SDEC driver. This will hopefully let you control the LCD…

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