Watchguard XTM 5 Series
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Heh, ask and ye shall receive…
@Lanner:
Hello John,
Attached is the manual for the FW-7580. If you need anything else please do not hesitate to reach out to me.
Thank you,
Really didn't expect that. Especially without a sales pitch or anything attached. At work, so I can't compare it to mine at home and only took a brief glance through it. Wonder how similar the chassis for the Lanner and XTM are. I did see instructions for adding a riser card, which won't work on my XTM without relocating the power switch I think. (Not sure if there are PCI-E cards that would be of use either. What cards would you possibly add? Are there any PCI-E VPN accelerators that would work with FBSD? Could do hardware RAID1 instead of software I suppose.) Definitely not without moving my custom serial port. Mostly curious about the hard drive caddy shown in the manual and if it would work in the XTM, especially since it does look like it could hold 2 laptop drives. (My XTM is one of the models with the dual SATA power supplies.)
But at least now I can go home and compare the jumper settings I have on my XTM with the manual. They were set differently than what the manual for the FW-7581 from a few posts ago.
I've attached the manual to this post as well if anyone else would like it. (It's zip compressed. Figured that would be easier than changing file extension. Why can't we attach PDF files?)
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I have been running my WatchGuard XTM 525 model with pfsense for over 2 years and everything is working fine. This unit has 2GB of RAM, Celeron E3400 2.6GHZ CPU, and I installed a SSD drive. Has anyone replaced the power supply with a picoPSU? If yes, please provide some details on installation and part numbers please.
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Out of curiosity, I may already know this and have forgotten, but what other resources did you have on the 7580?
It's been a while. ;)
But they had the original BIOS up on that site for a time after I asked them for it. Like you I found them very helpful. They seemed to have accidentally staffed the forum with real engineers!I'd give you thanks for that manual but I already thanked someone in this thread long long ago. Have some karma instead.
@pglover19. I'm not sure anyone had detailed it but I have no reason to think it wouldn't work with a picopsu. The power requirements are not large.
Steve
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I have been running my WatchGuard XTM 525 model with pfsense for over 2 years and everything is working fine. This unit has 2GB of RAM, Celeron E3400 2.6GHZ CPU, and I installed a SSD drive. Has anyone replaced the power supply with a picoPSU? If yes, please provide some details on installation and part numbers please.
The power consumption of these XTM 5 boxes are arround 27Watt (@ 220V) at idle.
So if you use a PicoPsu with at least 80Watt power outage, then you have enough extra.
Besides that, the only requirement is that the PicoPsu has the 4pin connector (2 yellow and 2 black wires) for the extra cpu power next to the powerconnector on the mainboard.Grtz
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Out of curiosity, what is the fastest CPU the XTM 510 could handle? I have an E4500 in a newly acquired box but wanted to use SNORT and such and was thinking if a quad would be too much for the board / psu or if a bios update would be required..
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Does anybody have the correct settings for lcdproc package (now available again, thanks!) to use with an XTM5?
(COM port, Display size, Driver, Port speed) -
Does anybody have the correct settings for lcdproc package (now available again, thanks!) to use with an XTM5?
(COM port, Display size, Driver, Port speed)SDEC driver, the parameters do not matter. It's a parallel port device, the same for all Watchguard boxes with an LCD, so all parameters are coded in the driver.
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what is the fastest CPU the XTM 510 could handle?
'Fastest' is an interesting term. For some workloads you are better to have a dual core at higher frequency. Once you introduce more processes though, like Snort, it helps to have more cores.
The XTM5 has a smaller PSU than the Lanner unit it's based on. The single core Celeron did not require huge power and it did come with hungry hard drives. So it might be expected that the fastest listed CPUs may give problems.
However I'm not sure anyone has seen issues yet. There are a number of CPU swap options detailed in this thread.Steve
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Does anybody have the correct settings for lcdproc package (now available again, thanks!) to use with an XTM5?
(COM port, Display size, Driver, Port speed)SDEC driver, the parameters do not matter. It's a parallel port device, the same for all Watchguard boxes with an LCD, so all parameters are coded in the driver.
booom! works, nice
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Out of curiosity, what is the fastest CPU the XTM 510 could handle? I have an E4500 in a newly acquired box but wanted to use SNORT and such and was thinking if a quad would be too much for the board / psu or if a bios update would be required..
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9650 @ 3.00GHz 4 CPUs: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s)
running in my XTM5 for a couple of years now. ;D
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Nice! :)
There you go that's a 95W TDP CPU so gives you options.
Steve
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Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9650 @ 3.00GHz 4 CPUs: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s)
running in my XTM5 for a couple of years now. ;D
Good to know, i may be able to score a Q6600 for free. You use the stock fans in it for cooling or changed out?
[Edit: Moved quote tags for clarity]
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I don't see the benefits of a unlocked Bios, if everythings works with the original.
Grtz
DeLoreanSorry to repeat this so much but:" Thank you Steve for the unlock bios, access to bios allows for USB booting." USB booting makes things so much easier when you have the unit on a rack shelf.
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Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9650 @ 3.00GHz 4 CPUs: 1 package(s) x 4 core(s)
running in my XTM5 for a couple of years now. ;D
Good to know, i may be able to score a Q6600 for free. You use the stock fans in it for cooling or changed out?
[Edit: Moved quote tags for clarity]
Stock fans. :)
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A little notice about the fans of a XTM 5
The XTM 5 has 4 fan connections on the mainboard,
the 2 closest connections to the Cpu heatsink are for the CPU fans, and the other 2 for the case fan(s).
The fan speed of all is thermal controlled by the Bios, but for more lowering of the fan speed,
there is the package WGxepc or WGxepc64.
But this package can only lower the fan speed of the case fan, the fan speed of the cpu fans is not infected by this.
But when you connect al fans together with Y splitters, to the case fan connection of the mainboard,
then you can made these boxes even more silent.
The only glice is, that setting the fan speed to low, that the CPU temperature wil rise,
so you must make a compromise between fanspeed (noise) and CPU temperature.
A value between 30 to 50 is what i use in WGxepc64.Best regards
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Hmm, interesting. I imagine there might be a register to set for the CPU fans too.
WGXepc only sets the minimum fan speed. It is still set to thermal control using whatever target temperature is in the BIOS. So if the temp you set is exceeded the fans will still spool up to full speed to stay cool.
When it's below that the fans slow to the minimum so settings a relatively high target temperature allow the fans to run slow.
Steve
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For anyone struggling to get this to boot from USB (as I just have been ::)) the key BIOS setting is to set 'Always boot from CF' to disabled.
Steve
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Thank you to all of you for all the detailed posts in this thread. I have a question.
I know version 2.3.3 came out a couple months ago, (and now 2.3.3-p1 is out) is out. Has anyone tried it on their XTM 5?
Is there any reason it shouldn't work?
Is there any reason to stick with an older version?I have a box on its way to me and this will be a good project for me this weekend.
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It will work fine. No reason to use an older version.
I'm running 2.4Beta on mine currently.
Steve
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It will work fine. No reason to use an older version.
I'm running 2.4Beta on mine currently.
Thank you Steve for the quick reply. Have you seen any issues with 2.4?
Also, am I right in understanding that 2.4 will be the last version that will work with the XTM 5 series?
I saw that 2.5 is going to require a CPU that has AES-NI, and there are no LGA 775 CPUs that include it.
