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    Verifying SSL site certificate verification

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    • J Offline
      Jdwind
      last edited by

      So, if you can (please), tell me, what should I do to do? Use transparent squid proxy without MITM? And how to manage ssl sites (i.e. how to block youtube, facebook etc. for some users in my network)?
      Best regards and thank you very much.

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      • DerelictD Offline
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
        last edited by

        peek/splice, not MITM.

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          Jdwind
          last edited by

          Then what should I to do? Disable MITM, enable transparent proxy in squid? I found only in Squid (in SSL Man In the Middle Filtering section) that information: Please see SslBump Peek and Splice wiki documentation for additional details - but there http://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/SslPeekAndSplice is not information how use it with Pfsense. Can you tell me some more about how do that, please?

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            Chrismallia
            last edited by

            Here is mine

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              doktornotor Banned
              last edited by

              @Jdwind:

              But SSL MITM is more security

              https://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA17-075A

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              • J Offline
                Jdwind
                last edited by

                Thank you, doktornotor. I have installed end-point antyvirus on every host too. In my network I must have any security solution (like IPS/IDS - I use Snort package), that why I used MITM and SSL filtering. Chrismallia show his configuration, but if I am not wrong he has MITM and SSL filtering too. Only different is with SSL/MITM mode - I have default, he Splice All. That's all?

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                  Chrismallia
                  last edited by

                  with splice all you do not need to install certs on devices, it is mostly good for only filtering  no AV, so it does not break the  ssl connection  or inspect content, it uses the SNI, anyone correct me if I am mistaken in any way

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                    doktornotor Banned
                    last edited by

                    @Jdwind:

                    Thank you, doktornotor. I have installed end-point antyvirus on every host too.

                    Oh noes. That was NOT the point. The point was that MITM is evil.

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                    • J Offline
                      Jdwind
                      last edited by

                      I tried this settings (from Chrismallia) on virtual network, Pfsense and two hosts and  what can I say… it works. Antivirus dont works with SSL, but I have it installed on every host. Thank you all for help and explanation very, very much. But one thing more that I can't understand (after Doktornotor post) - it is still MITM enabled - does it matter?
                      Best regards

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                      • johnpozJ Offline
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        no with splice your not your doing a peek and then splicing it back.. The client is getting the actual cert from the server.. Your just peaking inside to see where they are going, etc.  And if it should be filtered.

                        "splice: Become a TCP tunnel without decoding the connection. The client and the server exchange data as if there is no proxy in between."

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                          Jdwind
                          last edited by

                          Thank you very much again, so now I have everything ok. With Squidguard ssl filtering just works.

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                            Harvy66
                            last edited by

                            There are many attack vectors to infect machines when MITM is used. SSL provides two things, privacy and security. The security is provided by the signing. When you MITM, you break the signing, which means you break the security.

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                              kpa
                              last edited by

                              With MITM you're breaking the chain of trust normally provided the trusted third party signatures found on the certificates. Your users will no longer be able to verify that they are connecting to the real deal when they connect to a HTTPS site, instead they can at maximum be sure only that they are connecting to your MITM proxy.

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                                Jdwind
                                last edited by

                                It is too much  for my mind… Yes, now I know you are both right. But now, when I'm using peek and splice all mode with MITM and I can see every certificate verificated by.. i.e. Verisign, Symante, Oracle.. now my network settings are right - am I right or am I wrong?
                                EDIT:
                                I found that thread https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=123461.0, there is more explanation about my doubts. Thank you once more.

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