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      fthomasr
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      With 2c4 we are getting 940mbit/s here on 1gb/s Mediacom cable (which is the same directly connected to the modem with no router) on pfSense 2.3.3. As a matter of fact its only one of two routers out of many we have tested to get full throughput out of 1gb/s. An old Core2Duo E8400 with the same config only got 600mb on 2.3.3, Core2Quad the same. A Netgear R7000 with stock firmware (no thanks) pulled 940mbit/s last night but with Shibby TomatoUSB firmware only 360 down. I'd like to try a Asus RT-AC9000P with Merlin firmware. Ubiquiti Edgerouter X got 400 down, Edgerouter Lite better at 918mb/s.  So as it stands it's the APU 2C4!  ;)

      We just got 1GB/s in our area so we have been experimenting a good bit.

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        msvuze
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        @fthomasr:

        With 2c4 we are getting 940mbit/s here on 1gb/s Mediacom cable (which is the same directly connected to the modem with no router) on pfSense 2.3.3. As a matter of fact its only one of two routers out of many we have tested to get full throughput out of 1gb/s. An old Core2Duo E8400 with the same config only got 600mb on 2.3.3, Core2Quad the same. A Netgear R7000 with stock firmware (no thanks) pulled 940mbit/s last night but with Shibby TomatoUSB firmware only 360 down. I'd like to try a Asus RT-AC9000P with Merlin firmware. Ubiquiti Edgerouter X got 400 down, Edgerouter Lite better at 918mb/s.  So as it stands it's the APU 2C4!  ;)

        We just got 1GB/s in our area so we have been experimenting a good bit.

        Thanks for your reply.

        How much did you get for the upload on the 2c4 ?

        Please keep us updated on your findings THANKS AGAIN!!

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          Guest
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          With 2c4 we are getting 940mbit/s here on 1gb/s Mediacom cable (which is the same directly connected to the modem with no router) on pfSense 2.3.3.

          Are you using PPPoE, at this Internet connection?

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            pfBasic Banned
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            I believe there are some very SFF Intel n series Celeron boards out there that could do basic gigabit.

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              fthomasr
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              @BlueKobold:

              With 2c4 we are getting 940mbit/s here on 1gb/s Mediacom cable (which is the same directly connected to the modem with no router) on pfSense 2.3.3.

              Are you using PPPoE, at this Internet connection?

              No, Mediacom Cable. DHCP WAN.

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                fthomasr
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                @pfBasic:

                I believe there are some very SFF Intel n series Celeron boards out there that could do basic gigabit.

                We also tried an Atom D510 and got 209Mb/s (pfSense 2.3.3) :(

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                  fthomasr
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                  @msvuze:

                  How much did you get for the upload on the 2c4 ?

                  Our download/upload is not asymmetrical unfortunately. It's supposed to be a 1gb/50mbs plan. Our upload max has been 78mb/s.

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                    pfBasic Banned
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                    @fthomasr:

                    @pfBasic:

                    I believe there are some very SFF Intel n series Celeron boards out there that could do basic gigabit.

                    We also tried an Atom D510 and got 209Mb/s (pfSense 2.3.3) :(

                    Atom

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                      bigtime229
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                      @fthomasr:

                      With 2c4 we are getting 940mbit/s here on 1gb/s Mediacom cable (which is the same directly connected to the modem with no router) on pfSense 2.3.3. As a matter of fact its only one of two routers out of many we have tested to get full throughput out of 1gb/s. An old Core2Duo E8400 with the same config only got 600mb on 2.3.3, Core2Quad the same. A Netgear R7000 with stock firmware (no thanks) pulled 940mbit/s last night but with Shibby TomatoUSB firmware only 360 down. I'd like to try a Asus RT-AC9000P with Merlin firmware. Ubiquiti Edgerouter X got 400 down, Edgerouter Lite better at 918mb/s.  So as it stands it's the APU 2C4!  ;)

                      We just got 1GB/s in our area so we have been experimenting a good bit.

                      fthomasr and I are doing the testing. I tested an ASUS RT-68u last night with latest stock firmware, Merlin latest, and Tomato latest. Stock pulled 948, Merlin pulled 949, and tomato 360. I was confused how stock and merlin firmware could be outperforming tomato firmware. After some research, I found a little know setting under the advanced-> miscellaneous tab to enable CTF (Cut-Through Forwarding).  Now the tomato flashed router does 949. I'm sure that setting wasn't enabled on the netgear R7000 when we tested it with tomato firmware, but hey not a Netgear fan so we sent it back.
                      I must mention the AC68U we are testing is the older version with only an 800MHZ processor. The current revision includes a 1GHZ processor. I'd love to test the difference between these two revisions.

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                        fthomasr
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                        @pfBasic:

                        Atom

                        Ok first of all I posted that just for information.

                        But…... Same generation Atom

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                          Guest
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                          No, Mediacom Cable. DHCP WAN.

                          Ah ok that was not clear to me, thanks.

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                            pfBasic Banned
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                            @fthomasr:

                            @pfBasic:

                            Atom

                            Ok first of all I posted that just for information.

                            But…... Same generation Atom

                            Yeah, just saying you could probably get gigabit with a SFF modern n series Celeron.

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                              steve_v Banned
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                              @VAMike:

                              That hardware can do a gigabit just fine under linux. It's not a hardware problem, it's a system problem.

                              It sure is.

                              I've been testing pfSense throughput vs some GNU/Linux router distros, and the results are a little shocking, TBH.

                              Even without any routing (LAN interface to LAN client), I get ~600-650 Mbit out of pfSense, apparently CPU bound (one core at 100%).

                              I haven't found a GNU/Linux router that can't saturate the gigabit link (~950Mbit) in the same situation. With minimal CPU use (<15%).

                              I love the features of pfSense, but that's one hell of a performance tax we're paying for them :(

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                                Guest
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                                I've been testing pfSense throughput vs some GNU/Linux router distros, and the results are a little shocking, TBH.

                                Please try out iPerf from client to server and set it up to use 8 streams or more, then you will perhaps seeing other results
                                and you may get other numbers, because the LAN line will be saturated.

                                I love the features of pfSense, but that's one hell of a performance tax we're paying for them :(

                                As above told, the hardware requirements for reaching 1 GBit/s at the WAN are given by the pfSense team shown
                                under the link named some posts above by me, so there will be not really a need to complain about, because the
                                APU is only serving ~1.0GHz at the CPU and > 2.0GHz are needed. For sure in the near future this can be really
                                differ, by using multi-core CPU for the igb(4) driver, the entire pfSense system it self and perhaps more or less
                                one of the forwarding (netmap-fwd, try-fwd, fast-fwd) methods that can change this.

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