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    TP-LINK Smart Switches anyone?

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      pfBasic Banned
      last edited by

      Hahaha yeah, I certainly won't knock anyone for taking the cheap road.

      I just wanted to put the info out here because I was surprised at all the features possible on a $100 switch and I just upgraded from a $30 switch.

      I haven't used any CLI soon my switch yet, it seems like there are more options available just in the GUI than I know what to do with haha. I'm pretty sure the guy in the YouTube video said telnet not SSH though.
      There's also the option of using the serial headers, but again I haven't done that personally. It is an interesting YouTube teardown though.

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        ChefRayB
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        Firstly, thank you all for your feedback and suggestions.  You guys are great.  :)

        It really boils down to how much control someone wants on the switch, ability to troubleshoot easily when things don't work,  available support, youtube video, books, community, documentation and obviously the amount of money someone is willing to spend.

        I'm leaning towards Cisco SG300-10P in the USED category or get a SG300-10PP new…

        I live in Canada, when you factor exchange rate, duty, shipping and tax, the market price in Canada is not great....

        Zyxel GS1900-8HP is $164 CAD + tax  = $185 CAD  (free shipping)
        On ebay USED GS1900-8HP is $160 CAD ( Not worth buying used on ebay)

        Cisco SG300-10PP is  $324 CAD + tax = $367 CAD (free shipping)  (SG300-10P is out of stock)
        On amazon Canada, new SG300-10 is $333 CAD (sold by Cisco, expensive)

        On ebay, used SG300-10P  is $240 CAD  (35% saving )
        On amazong Canada, new SG300-10 is $333 CAD
        On amazon USA , New SG300-10 is $230 CAD (It's worth buying in the USA !)
        On amazon USA , New SG300-10pp is $435 CAD (not worth it buying in USA !)

        Based on Cisco website, the hardware limited lifetime warranty is not transferable,  since the SG-300-10 is not yet in end of life discontinuance, if I buy it new, I get limited lifetime + 5 years after the discontinuance announcement date.  I was able to download the firmware 1.4.7  and MIB 1.4.1 on the website.  I read on forum that I need to have a contract to download IOS ?

        Is is worth buying a used SG300-10P and save $100 USD or $130 CAD?

        Thank you

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        • jahonixJ
          jahonix
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          Is it really necessary to quote my whole post in your reply?

          @pfBasic:

          Ah, good point. I didn't think of that.

          :P

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          • jahonixJ
            jahonix
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            @ChefRayB:

            I read on forum that I need to have a contract to download IOS ?

            yes, but IOS is what runs on Catalyst switches, slightly out of your scope probably.

            @ChefRayB:

            Is is worth buying a used SG300-10P and save $100 USD or $130 CAD?

            I'd say so. There's no tear & wear with those devices, so why not save a third or so?

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              pfBasic Banned
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              @jahonix:

              Is it really necessary to quote my whole post in your reply?

              @pfBasic:

              Ah, good point. I didn't think of that.

              :P

              Is it really necessary to whine about silly shit on the internet?

              I apologize my formatting inconvenienced you as I typed from my mobile phone while shitting.  ::)

              Haha, what a tool.

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              • jahonixJ
                jahonix
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                Just hit the "reply" button and not "quote" then…  ::)

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                  pfBasic Banned
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                  @jahonix:

                  Just hit the "reply" button and not "quote" then…  ::)

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    "I read on forum that I need to have a contract to download IOS ?  "

                    You do not need a contract for the smb line of switches.. For a catalyst line sure… But the SG300, 350 or even the 500 series anyone can download without even having to login to the cisco site..

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                      fmatthew5876
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                      I've had a Tp-Link T1700G-28TQ for almost a month now. Great little switch with 4 10g SFP+ ports and fanless.

                      I don't need a lot of complex features in a switch for my home network currently but I am using Vlans. I've got a vlan for guest wifi (Ubiquiti AP) and other "unsafe" devices. Easy to configure on the switch and works fine with pfsense and ubiquiti.

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                      • dennypageD
                        dennypage
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                        @bingo600:

                        http://www.linksys.com/us/p/P-LGS308/

                        It's got some amazing specs (features) for a "small switch" : RMON , .1x auth , dhcp snooping etc…
                        I have ordered one , but am still waiting for it.

                        The LGS308 switches are rather like SG300 prototypes. They run an early version of the same OS used on the SG300, but it hasn't really been updated since Linksys was spun out.

                        If you are interested, I have a couple of them lying around if you want them. You can have them for shipping/handling.

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                        • bingo600B
                          bingo600
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                          I'm certainly interested , if shipping (or DK customs) isn't a killer.
                          I'm in DK

                          /Bingo

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                          • dennypageD
                            dennypage
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                            @bingo600:

                            I'm certainly interested , if shipping isn't a killer.
                            I'm in DK

                            If DK is Denmark, then I think shipping would definitely be a killer. A quick check of shipping cost shows 3x of what I would consider a reasonable commercial value.

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                            • bingo600B
                              bingo600
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                              I was afraid so …  :(

                              But thanx for the nice offer anyway.

                              /Bingo

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                                ChefRayB
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                                Does the offer extend to others  :)  I live in Canada,  how much ground shipping  5 weeks shipping & handling would it cost me ?  Put on label gift, used switch, value < $20 CAD (Duty free) , RMA lable (Duty Free).    :D

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                                • dennypageD
                                  dennypage
                                  last edited by

                                  FWIW, I have a couple of TP-Link TL-SG2008s as well. Also free to good home for shipping/handling. Preferably, somewhere not requiring customs forms (US). And a TP-Link TL-SG2216. Not quite free, but very reasonable price.

                                  Ditto for a Cisco SG300-10 and an SG300-20.

                                  I seem to collect switches. :)

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                                  • jahonixJ
                                    jahonix
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                                    This guy could probably use a >8 port switch  https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=130095.0
                                    Maybe send him an e-Mail?

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                                      SirShaggy
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                                      Hi Chris,

                                      We got one today with the server, Thank You!

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                                      • thuetyT
                                        thuety
                                        last edited by

                                        I have the TL-SG108E and I'm quite confused by the separation of the VLAN membership and the PVID.
                                        If I set a port to untagged and member of a VLAN (like 70), why do I have to manually set the PVID (to 70) for this port AGAIN?
                                        Is there any use case when the PVID doesn't need to be set to that VLAN ID?
                                        thanks

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                                          Because they are junk.

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                                            robi
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                                            They are not junk. They are pretty reliable pieces of hardware, especially for their price.

                                            @thuety:

                                            I have the TL-SG108E and I'm quite confused by the separation of the VLAN membership and the PVID.
                                            If I set a port to untagged and member of a VLAN (like 70), why do I have to manually set the PVID (to 70) for this port AGAIN?
                                            Is there any use case when the PVID doesn't need to be set to that VLAN ID?
                                            thanks

                                            The interfaces on various TP-Link switch types vary depending on their "feature level".
                                            If you look at the config file you can export as a backup from the web interface using a text editor, you'll see lots of cisco IOS-style commands. Some TP-Link models only support "GENERAL" type to be specified for ports, that means the ingress and the egress direction of packets has to be specified separately, for example on TL-SG2210P or T1600G-52TS:```
                                            interface gigabitEthernet 1/0/6
                                              switchport general allowed vlan 420 untagged
                                              switchport pvid 420

                                            
                                            Other higher-class models like TL-SG5428 or T2600G-28MPS have this single command, for the same function:```
                                            interface gigabitEthernet 1/0/6
                                              switchport access vlan 420
                                            

                                            This reflects on the web interface too, PVID is set automatically if port type is ACCESS.
                                            Either CLI or WebIf, one model has two commands to be entered, the other has only one. Why is that, I don't know, but I suppose it's for marketing reasons - perhaps they try to make pricier models look more professional.

                                            It's not like you have to configure hundreds of ports every day. One can live with this in any standard or mid-size office environment, and not pay 10x price for a Cisco labelled noisy box.
                                            Apart from this, they work as expected. Running cold, silent, 24 hours a day for many years. Set it and forget it.

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