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      DeLorean
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      Okay, my Nano USB programmer has the ST M25P80 chip listed.
      But when i look at the Bios chip of a XTM510 that i have here , it says MP25P80-VG.
      A search on the internet doesnt give me any answer what the difference is between both nrs.

      Grtz
      DeLorean

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          DeLorean
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          @747Builder:

          Bios chip is a Micron part you listed above (MP25P80-VG). Datasheet is here -> https://www.micron.com/~/media/Documents/Products/Data%20Sheet/NOR%20Flash/Serial%20NOR/M25P/M25P80.pdf

          the ST M25P80 datasheet is here -> http://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/ST%20Microelectronics%20PDFS/M25P80.pdf

          The BIOS chip that i mentioned MP25P80-VG is also from ST (ST brand visible on the picture)

          @747Builder:

          NOTE: be VERY careful with programming eproms with software if your not 1000% sure they are compatible. especially on these boxes with no easy way to replace the bios chip without a SMD rework station.

          That's why i'm carefull and not have tried updating the BIOS on a XTM5 untill now.

          BIOS flashing with the SOIC8 test clip and programmer will eliminate this risk, or can it go wrong with this method also ?

          I have used this programmer for BIOS flashing empty SST BIOS Chips for the X-E Core series,
          and that worked like a charm.
          A bad BIOS update is equal to a empty BIOS chip, are am i wrong ?

          Grtz
          DeLorean

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                DeLorean
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                @747Builder:

                if anyone has a backup of the original rom before you flashed stephen10's rom , i deleted my copy by mistake and cant get it back. shoot me a PM, id like to get a copy.

                im gonna update the CPU microcode plus a few other changes since im running a LGA771 CPU instead of the 775 CPU. but ill update Microcode for both 771 and 775 CPU's…

                I will see tomorrow for providing a stock BIOS.
                I have XTM505 , 510 and 525 available.

                Grtz
                DeLorean

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                  dhoffman98
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                  @747Builder:

                  if anyone has a backup of the original rom before you flashed stephen10's rom…

                  I THINK I have it. I used flashrom to read the original one to a file called "current.rom" and then flashed it. But it is POSSIBLE that I overwrote it again with the new one.
                  Are the file sizes exactly the same? Is there a way I can tell, easily if it's the old one?

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                      DeLorean
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                      My Nano USB Programmer doesn't recognize the BIOS chip.  :(

                      Grtz
                      DeLorean

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                        dhoffman98
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                        @747Builder:

                        you should be able to run a md5  on it and tell with "md5 nameofrom.bin"
                        if its stephen10's "pfsense 1.8 modded rom" the MD5 on it is MD5 e75bc93ca2db547a3facb8d611f0d441

                        OK, then I DO have two different files.

                        MD5 (current.rom) = 2bd4ca666290306f8f9b63dee497acfa
                        MD5 (xtm5_83.rom) = e75bc93ca2db547a3facb8d611f0d441

                        …

                        OK, Can't add .rom files. So try this and change the extension to .rom

                        (If putting that here was wrong, let me know and I'll try to remove it).

                        xtm5_original.txt

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              Doesn't look to be any of the files I have:

                              [2.4.0-BETA][root@ufw2.stevew.lan]/root: fetch https://sites.google.com/site/pfsensefirebox/home/xtm5.rom
                              xtm5.rom                                      100% of 1024 kB 1424 kBps 00m01s
                              [2.4.0-BETA][root@ufw2.stevew.lan]/root: md5 xtm5.rom 
                              MD5 (xtm5.rom) = 6fd0df1ef90335d5a4af2e9bea1a6958
                              [2.4.0-BETA][root@ufw2.stevew.lan]/root: fetch https://sites.google.com/site/pfsensefirebox/home/xtm5_83.rom
                              xtm5_83.rom                                   100% of 1024 kB 1412 kBps 00m01s
                              [2.4.0-BETA][root@ufw2.stevew.lan]/root: md5 xtm5_83.rom
                              MD5 (xtm5_83.rom) = e75bc93ca2db547a3facb8d611f0d441
                              [2.4.0-BETA][root@ufw2.stevew.lan]/root: fetch https://sites.google.com/site/pfsensefirebox/home/xtm5_8.rom
                              xtm5_8.rom                                    100% of 1024 kB 1488 kBps 00m00s
                              [2.4.0-BETA][root@ufw2.stevew.lan]/root: md5 xtm5_8.rom                        
                              MD5 (xtm5_8.rom) = b4e3e877b589b050f3e0dd52bc8fa2e4
                              
                              

                              Steve

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                                dlucas46
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                                @stephenw10:

                                Doesn't look to be any of the files I have:

                                Steve

                                You said before that you thought the BIOS backup included dynamic data.

                                @stephenw10:

                                Ah, that's cool.  :) Sorry for the delay replying.
                                You must use 3.51.
                                3.46 might corrupt the bios and there is no way to tell until the box doesn't boot.

                                The bios you backed up up is not the same as my original backup:

                                steve@steve-Satellite-Pro-A300:~/Desktop$ md5sum OG-BIOS.ROM 
                                6ce4e0811a16a61f98e051caee7d3bbb  OG-BIOS.ROM
                                steve@steve-Satellite-Pro-A300:~/Desktop$ md5sum xtm5.rom 
                                6fd0df1ef90335d5a4af2e9bea1a6958  xtm5.rom
                                
                                

                                However I don't think that's necessarily a problem. When I have backed up the BIOS rom before and compared it they have always been different. I believe that the downloaded ROM file must contain some dynamic data which changes every time making comparison like that impossible.

                                Steve

                                Edit: typos

                                Anybody tired comparing this one:

                                @John:

                                EDIT2>>
                                Here's the OG-BIOS.ROM file. Can you verify that it matches your original BIOS so I know if I can just flash the modified BIOS you've provided?

                                I have an XTM 510 that still has the original BIOS.  Can extract in a few days if needed.

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                                  dhoffman98
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                                  Did the one I attached not work? Or was it the wrong version?

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                                    dhoffman98
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                                    Does anyone have a good source for 4GB DDR2 240 Pin DIMMs PC2-6400, 800MHz, Non-ECC, unbuffered memory?
                                    Looking to buy 2 sticks that won't end up costing me $95.

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                                          dhoffman98
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                                          @747Builder:

                                          dont forget you need low density 4G sticks… apparently NON low density sticks dont work.

                                          Right… Forgot to mention that was another requirement on my list.
                                          NON ECC
                                          Unbuffered
                                          AND Low Density.

                                          I'm finding them out there, but it's almost $50 per stick.

                                          I'd like to set up Squid, but only have 2GB right now, and hear that would take more than 2GB.

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                                            DeLorean
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                                            @747Builder:

                                            @DeLorean:

                                            My Nano USB Programmer doesn't recognize the BIOS chip.  :(

                                            Grtz
                                            DeLorean

                                            Delorean,
                                            your sure you had the clip on the flash chip the right direction (YES ive made that stupid mistake of being on wrong) and power unplugged from the XTM?

                                            747Builder,

                                            Pin1 is marked with a red line on my clip, i have tried with powercord unplugged, plugged, with and without the CMOS battery.
                                            Everytime same result.
                                            Also used a 9pin USB header cable, with on each side a female connector, to connect to the SPI connector on the motherboard,
                                            but this gave same result.

                                            I have then looked further, and the seller advertised also a socalled "SPI Reverse Socket Kit" ,
                                            which would be needed, for flashing soldered BIOS chips.
                                            The explanation is that the Nano USB Programmer can't handle flashrom direct connected.
                                            With the "SPI Reverse Socket Kit", the soldered BIOS chip can then be "isolated" to gain full access and to proceed with the BIOS flashing.

                                            The full explanation is found here :
                                            http://cafe.daum.net/tualatin/J11z/243

                                            So it seems that i must order extra hardware to use my Nano USB Programmer  :(

                                            Grtz
                                            DeLorean

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