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    A Former User
    last edited by May 4, 2017, 9:05 PM

    If it helps anyone on this thread, I built this system a few months ago:

    CPU: Intel Core i3-7320 4.1GHz Dual-Core Processor
    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler
    Motherboard: ASRock H270M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory
    Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
    Case: Mini-Box M350 Case w/ 150W PicoPSU
    pfSense 2.4 beta

    OpenVPN throughput test:

    openvpn –genkey --secret /tmp/secret
    time openvpn --test-crypto --secret /tmp/secret --verb 0 --tun-mtu 20000 --cipher aes-256-cbc

    This test finishes in 6.39s, giving about 500Mbps theoretical limit.  During the test, htop shows 50-70% CPU usage on one core although it does vary quite a bit.  I can max out my 70Mbps cable connection and it doesn't break a sweat, but plan to move to 1Gb fiber in the near future.

    Snort:

    I haven't finished setting Snort up yet, but @datum posted some benchmarks here https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=123801.msg689437#msg689437.  Snort CPU usage is highly dependent on the rule sets enabled though.  It's really hard to get an idea of performance impact since people usually don't post their rule/inspection settings.

    Power Usage
    13W Idle/low load, 45-55W heavy load

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      patrick0525
      last edited by May 5, 2017, 10:49 AM May 5, 2017, 10:42 AM

      Similar Results on 2.4 beta:

      CPU: i3-6100 3.7GHz

      openvpn –genkey --secret /tmp/secret
      time openvpn --test-crypto --secret /tmp/secret --verb 0 --tun-mtu 20000 --cipher aes-256-cbc

      This test finishes in 6.99s,

      Running: i340-t4 nic, in-line Surricate, Squid, PfBlockerNG, OpenVPN
      Speed test runs at 70/70 down/up and cpu runs at 10-13%

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        itchris
        last edited by May 6, 2017, 10:33 PM

        Recently got gigabit fiber and run Ethernet straight form the ONT. I currently have pfsense virtualized on a poweredge with a decent 6x12 running on top of ESXI 6.5. I've tried e1000 and vmxnet3 drivers and messed around with hardware offloading. (better results with e1000) Long story short after much testing and tweaking.. my throughput was kind of meh. I saw around half the throughput with openvpn client. I have an edgerouter x sfp for lab purposes and I was getting around 800mbps.


        That led me to getting this:

        IN WIN CE685.FH300TB3 Black MicroATX Slim Case

        ASRock H270M-ITX/ac LGA 1151 Intel H270 Mini ITX Motherboards

        Intel Core i3-7350K Kaby Lake Dual-Core 4.2 GHz LGA 1151 61W

        CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 8GB 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400

        Noctua NH-L9i 95mm SSO2 CPU Cooler

        Spare 120GB SSD


        I will report back with my results. For science!

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          Finger79
          last edited by May 6, 2017, 11:31 PM

          For those on pfSense 2.4, curious what –cipher aes-256-gcm and aes-128-gcm will give compared to just aes-256-cbc and aes-128-cbc.  For fun and profit!

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            pfBasic Banned
            last edited by May 7, 2017, 1:26 AM

            @Finger79:

            For those on pfSense 2.4, curious what –cipher aes-256-gcm and aes-128-gcm will give compared to just aes-256-cbc and aes-128-cbc.  For fun and profit!

            https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=105238.msg709164#msg709164

            A synthetic test was all I could really do. My server is GCM but upload speed is only 15Mbps. Very few VPN providers use GCM at this time.

            TL;DR, It doesn't make a big difference in synthetic tests but I'm not convinced that test is valuable for testing this.

            https://calomel.org/aesni_ssl_performance.html

            This study shows a big difference in AES-NI for GCM over CBC.

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              A Former User
              last edited by May 7, 2017, 1:37 PM

              @Finger79, some additional data points for you.  With the i3-7320:

              time openvpn --test-crypto --secret /tmp/secret --verb 0 --tun-mtu 20000 --cipher aes-256-cbc
              Sun May  7 08:18:22 2017 disabling NCP mode (--ncp-disable) because not in P2MP client or server mode
                      6.41 real         6.40 user         0.00 sys
              
              time openvpn --test-crypto --secret /tmp/secret --verb 0 --tun-mtu 20000 --cipher aes-256-gcm
              Sun May  7 08:18:38 2017 disabling NCP mode (--ncp-disable) because not in P2MP client or server mode
                      5.89 real         5.88 user         0.00 sys
              
              time openvpn --test-crypto --secret /tmp/secret --verb 0 --tun-mtu 20000 --cipher aes-128-cbc
              Sun May  7 08:18:54 2017 disabling NCP mode (--ncp-disable) because not in P2MP client or server mode
                      6.28 real         6.28 user         0.00 sys
              
              time openvpn --test-crypto --secret /tmp/secret --verb 0 --tun-mtu 20000 --cipher aes-128-gcm
              Sun May  7 08:19:09 2017 disabling NCP mode (--ncp-disable) because not in P2MP client or server mode
                      5.73 real         5.72 user         0.01 sys
              

              Which gives us:

              AES-256-CBC, 3200/6.41 => 499.22 Mbps
              AES-256-GCM, 3200/5.89 => 543.29 Mbps
              AES-128-CBC, 3200/6.28 => 509.55 Mbps
              AES-128-GCM, 3200/5.73 => 558.46 Mbps

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                idealanthony
                last edited by May 10, 2017, 9:03 AM May 10, 2017, 7:36 AM

                @eptesicus - Were you able to get the asus to install pfsense?

                I can't for the life of me get it to boot/ install off a thumbdrive.  It just gives me an error code AE and sits there.

                The computer is working fine, I've tested it with a windows thumbdrive and it has no problem booting off of that.

                I created the thumb drive with the AMD64 img file using win32 disk imager

                Edit- So 2.3.4 would not install for the life of me.  Switched to 2.4 beta from 5/9, worked like a champ… Now I just need to go through the exercise of setup

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                  MikeV7896
                  last edited by May 10, 2017, 3:48 PM May 10, 2017, 3:30 PM

                  Could be a UEFI setting in the BIOS… I don't think the 2.3.x branch supports UEFI like 2.4 does.

                  If you change the boot mode to Legacy, you'll probably  be able to install 2.3.4.

                  The S in IOT stands for Security

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                    eptesicus
                    last edited by May 12, 2017, 7:06 PM

                    @idealanthony:

                    @eptesicus - Were you able to get the asus to install pfsense?

                    I ended up installing OPNSense instead.

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                      pfBasic Banned
                      last edited by May 22, 2017, 6:29 PM

                      @itchris:

                      That led me to getting this:

                      Intel Core i3-7350K Kaby Lake Dual-Core 4.2 GHz LGA 1151 61W

                      I will report back with my results. For science!

                      How did this end up working out for you?

                      What kind of OpenVPN speeds are you getting, at what encryption levels and at what CPU utilization? Have you used IDS/IPS on this at all?

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                        kapara
                        last edited by May 22, 2017, 8:38 PM

                        Be aware that if you are using SMB you will see horrible performance yet if you do an iperf test you will saturate the maximum.  I thought IPSec was having problems on my pfsense.  I could only get 4mbit on a 10mbit link yet iperf could push 9.86 mbit.

                        Skype ID:  Marinhd

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                          EricE
                          last edited by May 25, 2017, 12:05 AM

                          @pfBasic:

                          Your best bet (within a reasonable budget) for OpenVPN performance would be an i3-7350K, it's relatively inexpensive and has I think one of the highest clock speeds of any intel CPU.

                          It's an awesome value gaming CPU too:  https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

                          Number three on the list - amazing for an i3.

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