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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      Looks like he just used an Openreach 'modem' as supplied by BT to everyone before soho routers were commonly available with built in VDSL modems. Check Ebay.

      But he has an FTTC connection (VDSL) and you do not, yet.

      Steve

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        Balanga
        last edited by

        I managed to come up with a solution whereby I set my EE ADSL modem/router's gateway to 192.168.100.1 and connected one port to the WAN port on my pfSense box which provided my pfSense box with a WAN port IP address via DHCP from the EE box.

        It seems to work, but I don't really know if this is just a kludge or not…

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          Wolf666
          last edited by

          I use a Draytek V130 in bridge mode, excellent performances. I have a VDSL 100/20 with a current connection of real 95/19.

          Modem Draytek Vigor 130
          pfSense 2.4 Supermicro A1SRi-2558 - 8GB ECC RAM - Intel S3500 SSD 80GB - M350 Case
          Switch Cisco SG350-10
          AP Netgear R7000 (Stock FW)
          HTPC Intel NUC5i3RYH
          NAS Synology DS1515+
          NAS Synology DS213+

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            Balanga
            last edited by

            How do you measure this speed?

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              Wolf666
              last edited by

              @Balanga:

              How do you measure this speed?

              From a wired PC, an average performances using speed test (mostly for upload performances) and pfSense traffic graphs on single source download . From Vigor 130 GUI the actual rate is 107.9 Mbps/ 21.6Mbps…
              Of course the real connection speeds depends on the time of the day, but I can easly get those speeds duing night, I am less than 100 meters from cabinet (Broadcom).

              Modem Draytek Vigor 130
              pfSense 2.4 Supermicro A1SRi-2558 - 8GB ECC RAM - Intel S3500 SSD 80GB - M350 Case
              Switch Cisco SG350-10
              AP Netgear R7000 (Stock FW)
              HTPC Intel NUC5i3RYH
              NAS Synology DS1515+
              NAS Synology DS213+

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                Balanga
                last edited by

                That doesn't sound like ADSL…. I've just tried Speedtest and get around 5.0/1.0.

                Not sure how that can be significantly increased using a different router/modem...

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                  Wolf666
                  last edited by

                  @Balanga:

                  That doesn't sound like ADSL…. I've just tried Speedtest and get around 5.0/1.0.

                  Not sure how that can be significantly increased using a different router/modem...

                  If you have a ADSL/ADSL2 connection your speed depends on the distance from ISP DSLAM and if you are distant changing Modem cannot help you. Can you post a screenshot of your line? I mean, we need to know attenuation and type of line.

                  https://www.speedguide.net/dsl_speed_calc.php

                  Modem Draytek Vigor 130
                  pfSense 2.4 Supermicro A1SRi-2558 - 8GB ECC RAM - Intel S3500 SSD 80GB - M350 Case
                  Switch Cisco SG350-10
                  AP Netgear R7000 (Stock FW)
                  HTPC Intel NUC5i3RYH
                  NAS Synology DS1515+
                  NAS Synology DS213+

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                    Balanga
                    last edited by

                    Thanks for the link, but I'm afraid all this stuff is way over my head….

                    Where do I find 'Downstream Attenuation'?

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                      Wolf666
                      last edited by

                      @Balanga:

                      Thanks for the link, but I'm afraid all this stuff is way over my head….

                      Where do I find 'Downstream Attenuation'?

                      You should find line information accessing the webGUI of your modem…it is a quite normal and vital information of your connection.

                      Modem Draytek Vigor 130
                      pfSense 2.4 Supermicro A1SRi-2558 - 8GB ECC RAM - Intel S3500 SSD 80GB - M350 Case
                      Switch Cisco SG350-10
                      AP Netgear R7000 (Stock FW)
                      HTPC Intel NUC5i3RYH
                      NAS Synology DS1515+
                      NAS Synology DS213+

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                        Balanga
                        last edited by

                        I spent ages looking then found this post on the EE forums:-

                        https://community.ee.co.uk/t5/Archive/Upgraded-to-Brightbox-NOT-very-fast-is-it/td-p/18588

                        Then go to Advanced Settings / Accept / SYSTEM / ADSL Status

                        You should then get a full set of stats for the router.

                        Which should look something like this:

                        ADSL Status
                        This page shows information about your ADSL connection if applicable.
                        Status
                        Configured Current
                        Line Status –- SHOWTIME
                        Link Type --- Fast Path
                        Operation Mode G992.5(ADSL2+) G992.5(ADSL2+)
                        Data Rate Information
                        Stream Type Actual Data Rate
                        Upstream 1240 (Kbps.)
                        Downstream 9727 (Kbps.)                            <<<------THIS IS THE FIGURE WE ARE INTERESTED IN
                        Defect/Failure Indication
                        Operation Data Upstream Downstream
                        Noise Margin ...... 5.9 dB 10.9 dB
                        Line Attenuation 15.6 dB 29.5 dB

                        which I guess is what I'm looking for…except I don't see such an option... Maybe I'll try a different router.

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                          Balanga
                          last edited by

                          I've replace the EE Bright Box with a D-LINK DSL-2640R which does show  ADSL statistics:-

                          ADSL STATISTICS

                          Mode: ADSL2 PLUS
                          Type: ANNEX_A
                          Status: Showtime

                          Downstream Upstream
                          Rate (Kbps): 6788 kbps 972 kbps

                          SNR Margin (dB): 3.7 5.5
                          Attenuation (dB): 50.0 27.0
                          Output Power (dBm): 0.0 12.3

                          Super Frames: 21794 21795
                          RS Correctable Errors: 15699 9
                          RS Uncorrectable Errors: 2 4

                          HEC Errors: 21 0
                          Total Cells: 102129 36584
                          Data Cells: 101859 36584
                          Bit Errors: 0 0

                          Attentuation is 50.0 dB

                          and the SG DSL Speed Calculator shows:-

                          DSL Maximum Speed Calculator
                          Downstream Attenuation 50 dB
                          Cable loss 13.81 dB/km (default=13.81)
                          Approximate Distance 3621 meters
                          ADSL Max Speed 4898 kbps
                          ADSL2+ Max Speed 5237 kbps
                          VDSL2 Max Speed kbps

                          Not sure what any of this means or if I would get different figures with a different router.

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                            Wolf666
                            last edited by

                            Unfortunately with an attenuation of 50dB you are really far from your ISP DSLAM, changing modem won't improve your line since it ia a physical limit. Another issue could be the plug your modem is connected to and its wiring, you can call a technician to check your house phone line and see if the attenuation is related to it. Another thing is to call your ISP and ask for the distance between your house and their DLAM, if they reply you are more than 3 km far…well you really cannot improve your line.

                            Modem Draytek Vigor 130
                            pfSense 2.4 Supermicro A1SRi-2558 - 8GB ECC RAM - Intel S3500 SSD 80GB - M350 Case
                            Switch Cisco SG350-10
                            AP Netgear R7000 (Stock FW)
                            HTPC Intel NUC5i3RYH
                            NAS Synology DS1515+
                            NAS Synology DS213+

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