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    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
    last edited by May 24, 2017, 7:45 PM

    As far as I know, almost nobody is using those sk NICs.

    At the same time I haven't heard of anything like what you're seeing either.

    Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
    A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
    DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
    Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
      last edited by May 24, 2017, 7:50 PM

      192.168.1.0/24    link#11            U      sk1_vlan
      192.168.1.1        link#11            UHS        lo0
      192.168.1.3        link#11            UHS        lo0
      192.168.2.21      link#11            UHS        lo0
      192.168.2.21/32    link#11            U      sk1_vlan

      Why are both of those on link #11?

      netstat -rnWfinet

      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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        tsmalmbe
        last edited by May 25, 2017, 8:19 AM

        1.1 is the router itself
        1.3 is a virtual ip
        2.21 is a virtual ip

        192.168.1.3/32 LAN  IP Alias Virtual IP for wpad.malmberg.fi
        192.168.2.21/32 LAN  IP Alias Virtual IP for wiki.malmberg.fi

        I also realized that I have had it defined as 1.3/24 instead of 1.3/32 - this I have now changed.

        I have run your suggested netstat -command BEFORE and AFTER this change.

        BEFORE

        netstat -rnWfinet
        Routing tables

        Internet:
        Destination        Gateway            Flags      Use    Mtu      Netif Expire
        default            217.30.178.254    UGS      307699  1500        sk0
        10.10.1.0/24      link#4            U          401  1500        sk3
        10.10.1.1          link#4            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        10.99.0.0/16      10.100.100.2      UGS      66905  1500    ovpns5
        10.100.100.1      link#13            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        10.100.100.2      link#13            UH            6  1500    ovpns5
        10.100.101.1      link#14            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        10.100.101.2      link#14            UH            0  1500    ovpns8
        10.200.200.0/24    10.200.200.2      UGS          0  1500    ovpns1
        10.200.200.1      link#12            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        10.200.200.2      link#12            UH            0  1500    ovpns1
        10.200.210.0/24    10.100.100.2      UGS          0  1500    ovpns5
        83.145.193.133    217.30.178.254    UGHS    111003  1500        sk0
        127.0.0.1          link#8            UH      354961  16384        lo0
        192.168.1.0/24    link#11            U      2433840  1500  sk1_vlan5
        192.168.1.1        link#11            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        192.168.1.3        link#11            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        192.168.2.21      link#11            UHS        810  16384        lo0
        192.168.2.21/32    link#11            U            0  1500  sk1_vlan5
        192.168.10.0/24    link#9            U          487  1500  sk1_vlan6
        192.168.10.1      link#9            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        192.168.20.0/24    link#10            U        36126  1500  sk1_vlan7
        192.168.20.1      link#10            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        192.168.69.0/24    10.100.101.2      UGS          0  1500    ovpns8
        192.168.100.0/24  link#3            U            0  1500        sk2
        192.168.100.1      link#3            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        217.30.178.0/24    link#1            U            0  1500        sk0
        217.30.178.237    link#1            UHS          0  16384        lo0

        AFTER

        Routing tables

        Internet:
        Destination        Gateway            Flags      Use    Mtu      Netif Expire
        default            217.30.178.254    UGS      309567  1500        sk0
        10.10.1.0/24      link#4            U          401  1500        sk3
        10.10.1.1          link#4            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        10.99.0.0/16      10.100.100.2      UGS      67281  1500    ovpns5
        10.100.100.1      link#13            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        10.100.100.2      link#13            UH            6  1500    ovpns5
        10.100.101.1      link#14            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        10.100.101.2      link#14            UH            0  1500    ovpns8
        10.200.200.0/24    10.200.200.2      UGS          0  1500    ovpns1
        10.200.200.1      link#12            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        10.200.200.2      link#12            UH            0  1500    ovpns1
        10.200.210.0/24    10.100.100.2      UGS          0  1500    ovpns5
        83.145.193.133    217.30.178.254    UGHS    111477  1500        sk0
        127.0.0.1          link#8            UH      357517  16384        lo0
        192.168.1.0/24    link#11            U      2435972  1500  sk1_vlan5
        192.168.1.1        link#11            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        192.168.1.3        link#11            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        192.168.1.3/32    link#11            U            0  1500  sk1_vlan5
        192.168.2.21      link#11            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        192.168.2.21/32    link#11            U            0  1500  sk1_vlan5
        192.168.10.0/24    link#9            U          490  1500  sk1_vlan6
        192.168.10.1      link#9            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        192.168.20.0/24    link#10            U        36269  1500  sk1_vlan7
        192.168.20.1      link#10            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        192.168.69.0/24    10.100.101.2      UGS          0  1500    ovpns8
        192.168.100.0/24  link#3            U            0  1500        sk2
        192.168.100.1      link#3            UHS          0  16384        lo0
        217.30.178.0/24    link#1            U            0  1500        sk0
        217.30.178.237    link#1            UHS          0  16384        lo0

        Security Consultant at Mint Security Ltd - www.mintsecurity.fi

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          tsmalmbe
          last edited by May 25, 2017, 8:35 AM

          I know this is not a perfect timeline, but two simultaneous windows though.

          11:33:52.822204 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.20.7 tell 192.168.20.1, length 28
          11:33:52.822442 ARP, Reply 192.168.20.7 is-at 7a:f5:5b:ff:c9:c4, length 42
          11:33:52.822452 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11405, length 40
          11:33:52.822642 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11405, length 40
          11:33:53.822241 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.20.7 tell 192.168.20.1, length 28
          11:33:53.822469 ARP, Reply 192.168.20.7 is-at 7a:f5:5b:ff:c9:c4, length 42
          11:33:53.822482 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11407, length 40
          11:33:53.822669 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11407, length 40
          11:33:54.823260 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.20.7 tell 192.168.20.1, length 28
          11:33:54.823490 ARP, Reply 192.168.20.7 is-at 7a:f5:5b:ff:c9:c4, length 42
          11:33:54.823501 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11409, length 40
          11:33:54.823690 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11409, length 40
          11:33:55.825579 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11411, length 40
          11:33:55.825812 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11411, length 40
          11:33:56.826596 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11414, length 40
          11:33:56.826836 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11414, length 40
          11:33:57.829819 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11417, length 40
          11:33:57.830054 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11417, length 40

          Reply from 192.168.1.1: Destination host unreachable.
          Reply from 192.168.1.1: Destination host unreachable.
          Reply from 192.168.1.1: Destination host unreachable.
          Reply from 192.168.1.1: Destination host unreachable.
          Reply from 192.168.1.1: Destination host unreachable.
          Reply from 192.168.1.1: Destination host unreachable.
          Reply from 192.168.20.7: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=63
          Reply from 192.168.20.7: bytes=32 time=114ms TTL=63
          Reply from 192.168.20.7: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=63
          Reply from 192.168.20.7: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=63
          Reply from 192.168.20.7: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=63
          Reply from 192.168.20.7: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=63
          Reply from 192.168.20.7: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=63
          Reply from 192.168.20.7: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=63
          Reply from 192.168.20.7: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=63
          Reply from 192.168.20.7: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=63
          Reply from 192.168.20.7: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=63
          Reply from 192.168.20.7: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=63

          So WTF is going on with these ARP's.

          Security Consultant at Mint Security Ltd - www.mintsecurity.fi

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            tsmalmbe
            last edited by May 25, 2017, 8:38 AM

            11:35:52.476415 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.20.7 tell 192.168.20.1, length 28
            11:35:52.476692 ARP, Reply 192.168.20.7 is-at 7a:f5:5b:ff:c9:c4, length 42
            11:35:52.476703 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11614, length 40
            11:35:52.476892 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11614, length 40
            11:35:53.475585 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.20.7 tell 192.168.20.1, length 28
            11:35:53.475821 ARP, Reply 192.168.20.7 is-at 7a:f5:5b:ff:c9:c4, length 42
            11:35:53.475833 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11616, length 40
            11:35:53.476019 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11616, length 40
            11:35:53.890421 IP 192.168.20.7.138 > 192.168.1.255.138: UDP, length 227
            11:35:54.477796 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11619, length 40
            11:35:54.478040 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11619, length 40
            11:35:55.477931 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11622, length 40
            11:35:55.478166 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11622, length 40
            11:35:56.478949 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11625, length 40
            11:35:56.479188 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11625, length 40
            11:35:57.479970 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11628, length 40
            11:35:57.480212 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11628, length 40
            11:35:58.480948 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11631, length 40
            11:35:58.481133 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11631, length 40
            11:35:59.482083 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.20.7 tell 192.168.20.1, length 28
            11:35:59.482256 ARP, Reply 192.168.20.7 is-at 7a:f5:5b:ff:c9:c4, length 42
            11:35:59.482261 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11634, length 40
            11:35:59.482455 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11634, length 40
            11:36:00.483100 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11637, length 40
            11:36:00.483379 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11637, length 40
            11:36:01.483127 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11640, length 40
            11:36:01.483305 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11640, length 40
            11:36:02.485267 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11643, length 40
            11:36:02.485527 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11643, length 40
            11:36:03.485210 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11646, length 40
            11:36:03.485452 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11646, length 40
            11:36:04.485242 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11649, length 40
            11:36:04.485476 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11649, length 40
            11:36:04.485776 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.20.1 tell 192.168.20.7, length 42
            11:36:04.485786 ARP, Reply 192.168.20.1 is-at 00:90:7f:40:45:54, length 28
            11:36:04.597913 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.166.57005: tcp 4
            11:36:05.369166 IP 192.168.1.14.137 > 192.168.20.7.137: UDP, length 50
            11:36:05.369769 IP 192.168.20.7.137 > 192.168.1.14.137: UDP, length 62
            11:36:05.370391 IP 192.168.1.14.138 > 192.168.20.7.138: UDP, length 177
            11:36:05.374596 IP 192.168.1.14.3514 > 192.168.20.7.139: tcp 0
            11:36:05.374863 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 0
            11:36:05.375069 IP 192.168.1.14.3514 > 192.168.20.7.139: tcp 0
            11:36:05.388350 IP 192.168.1.14.3514 > 192.168.20.7.139: tcp 72
            11:36:05.388543 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 0
            11:36:05.389041 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 4
            11:36:05.389148 IP 192.168.1.14.3514 > 192.168.20.7.139: tcp 0
            11:36:05.389347 IP 192.168.1.14.3514 > 192.168.20.7.139: tcp 194
            11:36:05.394133 IP 192.168.20.7.57303 > 192.168.1.1.53: UDP, length 37
            11:36:05.428884 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 0
            11:36:05.487307 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11652, length 40
            11:36:05.487495 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11652, length 40
            11:36:06.488447 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11655, length 40
            11:36:06.488719 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11655, length 40
            11:36:07.488499 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11658, length 40
            11:36:07.488743 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11658, length 40
            11:36:08.490590 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11661, length 40
            11:36:08.490764 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11661, length 40
            11:36:09.491648 IP 192.168.1.191 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP echo request, id 6, seq 11664, length 40
            11:36:09.491889 IP 192.168.20.7 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP echo reply, id 6, seq 11664, length 40
            11:36:10.399253 IP 192.168.20.7.57303 > 192.168.1.1.53: UDP, length 37
            11:36:10.722106 IP 192.168.1.1.53 > 192.168.20.7.57303: UDP, length 103
            11:36:10.722473 IP 192.168.20.7.32781 > 192.168.1.1.53: UDP, length 49
            11:36:10.743034 IP 192.168.1.1.53 > 192.168.20.7.32781: UDP, length 115
            11:36:10.744939 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163
            11:36:10.744963 IP 192.168.20.1 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP host 192.168.1.14 unreachable, length 60
            11:36:10.945952 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163
            11:36:10.945993 IP 192.168.20.1 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP host 192.168.1.14 unreachable, length 60
            11:36:11.146854 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163
            11:36:11.146915 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.20.7 tell 192.168.20.1, length 28
            11:36:11.147147 ARP, Reply 192.168.20.7 is-at 7a:f5:5b:ff:c9:c4, length 42
            11:36:11.147157 IP 192.168.20.1 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP host 192.168.1.14 unreachable, length 60
            11:36:11.347851 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163
            11:36:11.347879 IP 192.168.20.1 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP host 192.168.1.14 unreachable, length 60
            11:36:11.548874 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163
            11:36:11.548950 IP 192.168.20.1 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP host 192.168.1.14 unreachable, length 60
            11:36:11.749860 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163
            11:36:11.749892 IP 192.168.20.1 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP host 192.168.1.14 unreachable, length 60
            11:36:11.950968 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163
            11:36:11.951009 IP 192.168.20.1 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP host 192.168.1.14 unreachable, length 60
            11:36:12.151867 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163
            11:36:12.151908 IP 192.168.20.1 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP host 192.168.1.14 unreachable, length 60
            11:36:12.352873 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163
            11:36:12.352916 IP 192.168.20.1 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP host 192.168.1.14 unreachable, length 60
            11:36:12.553878 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163
            11:36:12.553927 IP 192.168.20.1 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP host 192.168.1.14 unreachable, length 60
            11:36:12.754878 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163
            11:36:12.754921 IP 192.168.20.1 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP host 192.168.1.14 unreachable, length 60
            11:36:12.955897 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163
            11:36:12.955969 IP 192.168.20.1 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP host 192.168.1.14 unreachable, length 60
            11:36:13.156900 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163
            11:36:13.156968 IP 192.168.20.1 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP host 192.168.1.14 unreachable, length 60
            11:36:13.357906 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163
            11:36:13.357972 IP 192.168.20.1 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP host 192.168.1.14 unreachable, length 60
            11:36:13.558892 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163
            11:36:13.558928 IP 192.168.20.1 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP host 192.168.1.14 unreachable, length 60
            11:36:13.759896 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163
            11:36:13.759921 IP 192.168.20.1 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP host 192.168.1.14 unreachable, length 60
            11:36:13.960906 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163
            11:36:13.960936 IP 192.168.20.1 > 192.168.20.7: ICMP host 192.168.1.14 unreachable, length 60
            11:36:14.161910 IP 192.168.20.7.139 > 192.168.1.14.3514: tcp 163

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              tsmalmbe
              last edited by May 25, 2017, 8:56 AM

              netstat -m
              1855/1940/3795 mbufs in use (current/cache/total)
              1438/338/1776/26368 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max)
              1438/333 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache)
              0/120/120/13184 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max)
              0/0/0/3906 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max)
              0/0/0/2197 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max)
              3352K/1641K/4993K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total)
              0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters)
              0/0/0 requests for mbufs delayed (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters)
              0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters delayed (4k/9k/16k)
              0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k)
              0/10/6656 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max)
              0 requests for sfbufs denied
              0 requests for sfbufs delayed
              0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile

              I also did service netif restart and then no traffic on any interface worked so I had to reboot again.

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                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                last edited by May 25, 2017, 4:41 PM

                1.1 is the router itself
                1.3 is a virtual ip
                2.21 is a virtual ip

                192.168.1.3/32    LAN    IP Alias    Virtual IP for wpad.malmberg.fi
                192.168.2.21/32    LAN    IP Alias    Virtual IP for wiki.malmberg.fi

                So you're playing games with multiple Layer 3 networks on VLAN 5 and you are having problems. Perhaps don't do silly things like that. Makes me wonder what other questionable design decisions you have made elsewhere. Seems they are coming home to roost. What kind of switch are you using? If you post more packet captures please indicate where they were taken and how.

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                  tsmalmbe
                  last edited by May 25, 2017, 6:58 PM

                  So, the 192.168.2-base ip is now gone. I will look into adding a network solely for my HAProxy addresses some other way, perhaps using a VLAN which is only available on pfSense or something along those lines. But I will leave that for now as it most obviously can be a part of the problem. I added 1.6/32 as a VIP instead to serve my wiki.

                  My packet dumps are from pfSense.

                  My switch is a Procurve 2848 (J4904A).

                  Let's see if the removal of the VIP makes a difference.

                  It would be foolish to say that this was the only questionable design I have made, although most of my decisions are preceded by somewhat thorough investigations.

                  Routing tables

                  Internet:
                  Destination        Gateway            Flags      Use    Mtu      Netif Expire
                  default            217.30.178.254    UGS      275029  1500        sk0
                  10.10.1.0/24      link#4            U            0  1500        sk3
                  10.10.1.1          link#4            UHS          0  16384        lo0
                  10.99.0.0/16      10.100.100.2      UGS      67877  1500    ovpns5
                  10.100.100.1      link#13            UHS          0  16384        lo0
                  10.100.100.2      link#13            UH            0  1500    ovpns5
                  10.100.101.1      link#14            UHS          0  16384        lo0
                  10.100.101.2      link#14            UH            0  1500    ovpns8
                  10.200.200.0/24    10.200.200.2      UGS          0  1500    ovpns1
                  10.200.200.1      link#12            UHS          0  16384        lo0
                  10.200.200.2      link#12            UH            0  1500    ovpns1
                  10.200.210.0/24    10.100.100.2      UGS          0  1500    ovpns5
                  83.145.193.133    217.30.178.254    UGHS      72257  1500        sk0
                  127.0.0.1          link#8            UH      231466  16384        lo0
                  192.168.1.0/24    link#11            U        640239  1500  sk1_vlan5
                  192.168.1.1        link#11            UHS          0  16384        lo0
                  192.168.1.3        link#11            UHS          0  16384        lo0
                  192.168.1.3/32    link#11            U            0  1500  sk1_vlan5
                  192.168.1.6        link#11            UHS          0  16384        lo0
                  192.168.1.6/32    link#11            U            0  1500  sk1_vlan5
                  192.168.10.0/24    link#9            U          319  1500  sk1_vlan6
                  192.168.10.1      link#9            UHS          0  16384        lo0
                  192.168.20.0/24    link#10            U        65604  1500  sk1_vlan7
                  192.168.20.1      link#10            UHS          0  16384        lo0
                  192.168.69.0/24    10.100.101.2      UGS          0  1500    ovpns8
                  192.168.100.0/24  link#3            U            0  1500        sk2
                  192.168.100.1      link#3            UHS          0  16384        lo0
                  217.30.178.0/24    link#1            U            0  1500        sk0
                  217.30.178.237    link#1            UHS          0  16384        lo0

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                    tsmalmbe
                    last edited by May 25, 2017, 9:52 PM

                    Made no real difference.

                    00:44:13.624423 IP 192.168.1.191.60359 > 192.168.1.1.53: UDP, length 38
                    00:44:13.624597 IP 192.168.1.1.53 > 192.168.1.191.60359: UDP, length 54
                    00:44:13.627115 IP 192.168.1.191.54459 > 192.168.1.1.53: UDP, length 38
                    00:44:13.627161 IP 192.168.1.1.53 > 192.168.1.191.54459: UDP, length 54
                    00:44:13.920983 IP 192.168.1.191.41804 > 192.168.1.1.443: tcp 1
                    00:44:13.921020 IP 192.168.1.1.443 > 192.168.1.191.41804: tcp 0
                    00:44:14.113198 IP 192.168.1.191.41889 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 0
                    00:44:14.113255 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.41889: tcp 0
                    00:44:14.114696 IP 192.168.1.191.41889 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 0
                    00:44:14.132373 IP 192.168.1.191.41889 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 0
                    00:44:14.132397 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.41889: tcp 0
                    00:44:14.132481 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.41889: tcp 0
                    00:44:14.133968 IP 192.168.1.191.41889 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 0
                    00:44:14.372141 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:15.372264 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:15.647337 IP 192.168.1.191.41827 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 46
                    00:44:15.647388 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.41827: tcp 0
                    00:44:15.647834 IP 192.168.1.191.41827 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 31
                    00:44:15.647850 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.41827: tcp 0
                    00:44:15.648333 IP 192.168.1.191.41827 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 0
                    00:44:15.648354 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.41827: tcp 0
                    00:44:15.648586 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.41827: tcp 0
                    00:44:15.649732 IP 192.168.1.191.41827 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 0
                    00:44:16.373381 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:17.374319 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:18.375471 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:19.377456 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:20.212401 IP 192.168.1.191.40996 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 1
                    00:44:20.212425 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.40996: tcp 0
                    00:44:20.378476 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:20.414702 IP 192.168.1.191.41703 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 36
                    00:44:20.414729 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.41703: tcp 0
                    00:44:21.072818 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.1.169 tell 192.168.1.1, length 28
                    00:44:21.134440 ARP, Reply 192.168.1.169 is-at d8:0f:99:2d:58:a5, length 46
                    00:44:21.379496 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:22.380614 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:23.381640 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:23.606706 IP 192.168.1.191.41861 > 192.168.1.1.443: tcp 1
                    00:44:23.606781 IP 192.168.1.1.443 > 192.168.1.191.41861: tcp 0
                    00:44:23.929637 IP 192.168.1.191.41804 > 192.168.1.1.443: tcp 1
                    00:44:23.929717 IP 192.168.1.1.443 > 192.168.1.191.41804: tcp 0
                    00:44:24.382789 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:25.383800 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:26.182792 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.1.1 tell 192.168.1.169, length 46
                    00:44:26.182806 ARP, Reply 192.168.1.1 is-at 00:90:7f:40:45:54, length 28
                    00:44:26.385013 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:27.385931 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:28.388054 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:28.600625 IP 192.168.1.191.39585 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 805
                    00:44:28.600657 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.39585: tcp 0
                    00:44:29.374504 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.39585: tcp 1460
                    00:44:29.374521 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.39585: tcp 279
                    00:44:29.377592 IP 192.168.1.191.39585 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 0
                    00:44:29.389036 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:30.214045 IP 192.168.1.191.40996 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 1
                    00:44:30.214070 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.40996: tcp 0
                    00:44:30.390005 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:31.391255 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:32.392346 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:33.394514 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:33.607239 IP 192.168.1.191.41861 > 192.168.1.1.443: tcp 1
                    00:44:33.607283 IP 192.168.1.1.443 > 192.168.1.191.41861: tcp 0
                    00:44:33.933459 IP 192.168.1.191.41804 > 192.168.1.1.443: tcp 1
                    00:44:33.933483 IP 192.168.1.1.443 > 192.168.1.191.41804: tcp 0
                    00:44:34.395412 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:35.396425 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:36.397542 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:37.398571 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:38.021286 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.39609: tcp 92
                    00:44:38.222530 IP 192.168.1.191.39609 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 0
                    00:44:38.399706 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:39.400709 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:40.220600 IP 192.168.1.191.40996 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 1
                    00:44:40.220682 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.40996: tcp 0
                    00:44:40.308870 IP 192.168.1.191.39609 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 388
                    00:44:40.308948 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.39609: tcp 0
                    00:44:40.309052 IP 192.168.1.191.39609 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 156
                    00:44:40.309069 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.39609: tcp 0
                    00:44:40.401746 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:40.533902 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.39609: tcp 107
                    00:44:40.593171 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.39609: tcp 401
                    00:44:40.595328 IP 192.168.1.191.39609 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 0
                    00:44:41.402919 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:42.404878 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:43.405796 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:43.604789 IP 192.168.1.191.41861 > 192.168.1.1.443: tcp 1
                    00:44:43.604823 IP 192.168.1.1.443 > 192.168.1.191.41861: tcp 0
                    00:44:43.938897 IP 192.168.1.191.41804 > 192.168.1.1.443: tcp 1
                    00:44:43.938918 IP 192.168.1.1.443 > 192.168.1.191.41804: tcp 0
                    00:44:44.406929 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:45.408085 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:46.410172 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:47.200184 IP 192.168.1.191.39609 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 42
                    00:44:47.200211 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.39609: tcp 0
                    00:44:47.411191 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:48.209196 IP 192.168.1.191.39609 > 192.168.1.1.3128: tcp 471
                    00:44:48.209226 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.39609: tcp 0
                    00:44:48.405610 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.39609: tcp 97
                    00:44:48.412215 IP 192.168.1.1 > 192.168.1.191: ICMP host 192.168.20.7 unreachable, length 36
                    00:44:48.412443 IP 192.168.1.1.3128 > 192.168.1.191.39609: tcp 197

                    From pfSense,  capturing 192.168.1.1 this time.

                    The pinging is done from 1.191.

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                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                      last edited by May 25, 2017, 10:27 PM

                      I would try a different NIC. Or capture on a monitor port on the switch and see if the pings are really going out on the wire.

                      Almost nobody uses those sk NICs.

                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                        tsmalmbe
                        last edited by May 26, 2017, 1:36 PM

                        I'll go ahead and move my ports around a bit later tonight just to cross out the possibility of hardware failure.

                        I've liked the idea of using these Watchguards as they are "proper" pedigree firewalls. I have been looking at migratiing to an XTM-series, but I just had huge issues getting the latest nano-release even starting on that one.

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                          tsmalmbe
                          last edited by May 31, 2017, 7:38 PM

                          Both the primary WG and my secondary WG got totally screwed up and wont even boot in an orderly fashion.

                          Luckily I took a backup before venturing into testin.

                          As a workaround, I installed pfSense on proxmox, hooked up my VLANs and now this technically works. Technically, not optimally - because now I'm firewalling in the host-environment where my crownjewels are, instead of firewalling before  even touching this hardware. But for now, I'm in business again.

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