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      DeLorean
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      @747Builder:

      @DeLorean:

      My Nano USB Programmer doesn't recognize the BIOS chip.  :(

      Grtz
      DeLorean

      Delorean,
      your sure you had the clip on the flash chip the right direction (YES ive made that stupid mistake of being on wrong) and power unplugged from the XTM?

      747Builder,

      Pin1 is marked with a red line on my clip, i have tried with powercord unplugged, plugged, with and without the CMOS battery.
      Everytime same result.
      Also used a 9pin USB header cable, with on each side a female connector, to connect to the SPI connector on the motherboard,
      but this gave same result.

      I have then looked further, and the seller advertised also a socalled "SPI Reverse Socket Kit" ,
      which would be needed, for flashing soldered BIOS chips.
      The explanation is that the Nano USB Programmer can't handle flashrom direct connected.
      With the "SPI Reverse Socket Kit", the soldered BIOS chip can then be "isolated" to gain full access and to proceed with the BIOS flashing.

      The full explanation is found here :
      http://cafe.daum.net/tualatin/J11z/243

      So it seems that i must order extra hardware to use my Nano USB Programmer  :(

      Grtz
      DeLorean

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          DeLorean
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          @747Builder:

          DeLorean,
          do you have a link to the exact programmer you have?
          and the soic8 test clip?

          you may be able to just buy 8 jumper wires for your test clip and figure out the reverse wiring to the clip from the programmer.

          let me know.

          This is my programmer :
          http://www.ebay.com/itm/NANO-USB-Programmer-for-PC-M-B-BIOS-repairing-with-Economic-shipping-/271313593344?hash=item3f2b8ce400:g:B6QAAMXQrNtR0sQZ

          And this is the SOIC8 test clip that i have :
          http://www.ebay.com/itm/CTYRZCH-SOIC8-SOP8-Flash-Chip-IC-Test-Clips-Socket-Adpter-Programmer-/122481188471?hash=item1c84729e77:g:rsUAAOSw-3FZDMxE

          If have also used internal USB cable from a old case, like this for connecting my programmer to the SPI connector on the motherboard :
          http://www.ebay.com/itm/Internal-Mainboard-motherboard-USB-2-0-9pin-female-to-female-extension-Cable/142057029855?_trksid=p2045573.c100642.m3226&_trkparms=aid%3D555017%26algo%3DPL.CASSINI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D7b69eab2420547cab591541b188cc098%26pid%3D100642%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26

          But i gives me same result each time, device ID : 0XEEEE (see attached screenshot)

          So i think for this programmer to work correctly, i have to use the SPI Reverse kit.

          Grtz
          DeLorean

          ![Nano USB Programmer error.PNG](/public/imported_attachments/1/Nano USB Programmer error.PNG)
          ![Nano USB Programmer error.PNG_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Nano USB Programmer error.PNG_thumb)

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            uknownme123
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            WGbiosV1_2.bin
            MD5: 35F34C44D4418550278CBEC29D351753

            OGxtm5BIOS.bin
            MD5: 6CE4E0811A16A61F98E051CAEE7D3BBB

            xtm505.bin
            MD5: 2FDD6851B32AE931637D4845C037B550

            WG_Bios_1_2.rom
            MD5: C94B1E6AF6DB5CB3A1F37A33F6BAF494

            WGbiosV1_2.bin.txt
            OGxtm5BIOS.bin.txt
            xtm505.bin.txt
            WG_Bios_1_2.rom.txt

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                DeLorean
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                @747Builder:

                Delorean,

                From reading the auction listing , it appears your correct you need THERE adapter. and a standard USB cable wont work for SPI. they seen to have there OWN SPI cable as well.
                frustrating for sure.

                im using this programmer http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4282

                and this test clip http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4234

                and this for SPI (Does JTAG also) http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4310

                Thanks, i have done a little research and found the same programmer and SPI at 1 seller from UK at Ebay,
                with less shippingcosts then mcumall, and also no extra taxes  8)
                Thank you, now i'm sure for hardware that does the job right, instead of ordering different programmers without success.

                Grtz
                DeLorean

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                      DeLorean
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                      @747Builder:

                      Delorean,

                      i ordered the same soic8 clip as you ALREADY have and got it today. works great with the willems programmer i got. ive attached a few pictures to show. you dont need the expensive willems soic8 clip and adapter. (though i already had it.)

                      Thanks for the update.
                      I'm going to order this programmer also, but you mention the SOIC8 clip,
                      did you try also the SPI connector next to the BIOS chip ?
                      I found the SOIC8 clip is not that secure connection, because it can sometimes flip off.
                      If this occur during flashing, the flashprocedure must be repeated from scratch.

                      Grtz
                      DeLorean

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                          DeLorean
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                          @747Builder:

                          NO i havent tried the SPI connector YET… ill have to take a good look at the pinout and make a cable up that plugs in. i make up cables for each different device i use the SPI connector on. ill order the parts tonight

                          You can try a USB 9pin header cable (the cable from motherboard to the front USB ports in some cases).
                          The pinsout of the SPI connector are 1:1 as the chip, except the above 2 pins are not used.
                          I have measured this by a multimeter @ Continuity mode (beep)

                          Grtz
                          DeLorean

                          ![pinsout SPI connector.PNG](/public/imported_attachments/1/pinsout SPI connector.PNG)
                          ![pinsout SPI connector.PNG_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/pinsout SPI connector.PNG_thumb)
                          ![ST M25P80 pinsout.PNG](/public/imported_attachments/1/ST M25P80 pinsout.PNG)
                          ![ST M25P80 pinsout.PNG_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/ST M25P80 pinsout.PNG_thumb)

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                              chpalmer
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                              Mentioned back on page 26..    https://tostarcn.en.alibaba.com/product/60037013540-800213290/Intel_B75_LGA1155_1u_Firewall_Server_with_6_LAN_and_Bypass_10_Gigabit_Optical_Card.html

                              Does anyone know where one could obtain that expanded card with the optical interface?  Looks like it would work on an XTM5..

                              Intel-B75-LGA1155-1u.jpg_thumb
                              Intel-B75-LGA1155-1u.jpg

                              Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                              Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                                https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/N70SL-B-1U-1037U-Firewall-Motherboard_60063994554.html

                                Slot is actually on the motherboard dag nab it!

                                Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                                Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                                  hayrullahberk
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                                  i have a small question what is the maximum system requirements for xtm505 - mb-7850 v1.0 motherboard ?

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                                    DeLorean
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                                    @hayrullahberk:

                                    i have a small question what is the maximum system requirements for xtm505 - mb-7850 v1.0 motherboard ?

                                    Hardware (motherboard) doesn't have system requirements.
                                    System requirements are for software.
                                    Do you mean, what the maximum amount of Ram is and which is the fasfest Cpu that the motherboard supports ?

                                    The maximum amount of Ram supported on a XTM5 is 4Gb DDR2 (as the motherboard manual says),
                                    but i have read story's about succesfully using 8Gb.
                                    For the fasfest Cpu, that's a tricky question to answer.
                                    By default, a XTM5 series motherboard has a cpu in the range of 65Watt TDP, if you wanna stay in this temperaturerange,
                                    then the Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550s – 2.83 GHz - 1333Mhz is the fastest.

                                    Grtz
                                    DeLorean

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                                      hayrullahberk
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                                      Very Thanks  :) :) :)

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                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        Some Xeons will run in it either the socket 775 models or the socket 771 with the pin-mod. Not sure they're any faster than the C2Q though. I've not personally tried but there are reports in this thread.

                                        Steve

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