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    • N
      newest_newbie
      last edited by

      Hello folks.
      This is my first experience with PFSense.
      I googled around and could not see an answer - need some help !!!

      I have the following setup
      re0 - WAN - DHCP
      re1 - LAN - 192.168.0.11/24 - no gateway
      re2 - OPT1 - 192.168.1.11/24 - no gateway

      After some work I was able to set proper rules and both WAN and LAN are running fine.
      The problem is with OPT1 - It is not getting internet access.

      FACTS

      • From 192.168.1.238 (windows box) I can ping 192.168.1.11 (implicit gateway for OPT1) and ping 192.168.1.9 (another host) with sucess
      • When ping www.google.com or 192.168.0.11 (implicit gateway for LAN)- timeout
      • I created a rule opening all for OPT1
        Protocol  Source  Port Destination  Port  Gateway  Queue Schedule
        IPv4      *     *   *       * * * none

      I did a lot of tries but none seem to work.
      Seems to me it is a gateway/NAT or DNS problem.

      QUESTION

      • At "Interfaces/OPT1" should I set 192.168.0.11 as the gateway ?

      Any tips ?

      TIA

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      • DerelictD
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
        last edited by

        No. Don't set a gateway on LAN interfaces.

        All hosts on OPT1 should have 192.168.1.11 as their default gateway.

        Your OPT1 rule is fine.

        What are your settings in Firewall > NAT, Outbound? Is 192.168.1.0/24 listed as a source network on WAN?

        Hosts having pfSense as the default gateway, rules on OPT1, and outbound NAT are really all there is to it.

        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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        • N
          newest_newbie
          last edited by

          Yes I believe - both LAN and OPT1
          WAN 127.0.0.0/8 192.168.0.0/24 192.168.1.0/24 * * 500 WAN address * Auto created rule for ISAKMP
          WAN 127.0.0.0/8 192.168.0.0/24 192.168.1.0/24 * * * WAN address * Auto created rule

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          • N
            newest_newbie
            last edited by

            During my search, looked like this is a very common problem, and no one has a sure way of fix it.
            Meanwhile I am trying to find a solution.
            If someone has some tip…

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by

              It is not a common problem.

              • pfSense as the hosts' default gateway

              • firewall rules on the inside interface passing the traffic

              • Outbound NAT

              • It just works

              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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              • N
                newest_newbie
                last edited by

                I'm sure it works, since it was designed to be a firewall… :P ...but not smoothly

                More information

                My physical map

                OPT1 (192.168.1.11) <------> SWITCH <-----> (192.168.1.238 STATIC) WINDOWS PC FIREWALL DISABLED
                                                              SWITCH <-----> (192.168.1.9 STATIC) ANOTHER HOST                           
                Testing the port

                PF/DIAGNOSTICS/PING 
                PING 192.168.1.238 (192.168.1.238): 56 data bytes
                64 bytes from 192.168.1.238: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128 time=0.314 ms
                64 bytes from 192.168.1.238: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=0.159 ms
                64 bytes from 192.168.1.238: icmp_seq=2 ttl=128 time=0.372 ms
                --- 192.168.1.238 ping statistics ---
                3 packets transmitted, 3 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
                round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.159/0.282/0.372/0.090 ms
                Success !!! Physically everythings okay

                The rule at OPT1

                States Protocol Source Port Destination Port Gateway Queue Schedule Description Actions
                0 /0 B        IPv4 * OPT1 net * * * * none   ALLOW OPT1 TO ANY

                Testing the rule

                If I enable it at PF/FIREWALL/RULES/OPT1, I ping to 192.168.1.238, it answers.
                If I disable it at PF/FIREWALL/RULES/OPT1, I ping to 192.168.1.238, it times out.
                So the rule is surely working, but not allows to pass on, or something in the back is not working as it should.

                How I know it works ?

                I made a batch which run at windows PC and constantly pings realms
                PING 192.168.1.9    (another host at same switch) - OK
                PING 192.168.1.11  (gateway port at OPT1) - OK
                PING 192.168.0.11  (gateway port at LAN) - TIMES OUT
                PING 192.168.2.100 (gateway port at WAN) - TIMES OUT
                PING 8.8.4.4            (dns server at internet - no name translation) - TIMES OUT
                PING www.???????.com.br (my website at intenet - name translation) - TIMES OUT

                Suggestions ?

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                • DerelictD
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                  last edited by

                  Might want to start here:

                  https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Connectivity_Troubleshooting

                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    What I can tell you is this is clickity clickity.. Add a opt interface, give it an IP, setup rules on that interface = works right out the box!!

                    That you have realtek interfaces might be the problem - what is common is users using realtek or usb interfaces having issues.

                    "During my search, looked like this is a very common problem"

                    What search - please post to articles/forum threads you think is common to your issue.. Where "and no one has a sure way of fix it. " Could almost promise you your problem is either PEBAC.. or hardware issue..

                    An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                    If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                    Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
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                    • K
                      kpa
                      last edited by

                      It's not a common problem at all. There are just a few people out of literally thousands who can't get this working because either they have some crazy ideas of how networking works or they are in the small minority with broken/badly working/poorly supported hardware.

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                      • N
                        newest_newbie
                        last edited by

                        I found the problem…

                        All of this began when i needed to build a Captive Portal.

                        I've notice that OPT1 wasn't working.
                        I've been trying to ping but didn't seem to work.

                        So I found out that Captive Portal was still enabled although not fully configured.
                        I never thought CP would block ICMP - but I should. :o
                        I disabled CP and voila !! it worked....

                        I found this following this step-by-step that Derelict showed me, although everything was setup properly.

                        When I said this is a common problem I mean I found a lot of posts regarding this, people gets stuck trying to found out how stuff work and behave. A bit like "if you are here you can't get things easy - you've got to sweat".
                        This is a part of getting knowledge to something new.

                        Anyway it's all up and running.
                        I was a Smoothwall Express user and now I'm a happy PFsense user...

                        Thanks buddies.

                        PS: Now another hill to climb - captive portal using vouchers.

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                          last edited by

                          So chalk another one up to PEBKAC ;)

                          An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                          If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                          Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
                          SG-4860 24.11 | Lab VMs 2.8, 24.11

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                          • N
                            newest_newbie
                            last edited by

                            Normally that happens when you are at full multitasking with just one core processor (head)…  :)

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