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Watchguard X750e running pfSense on a SATA hard drive easily with about $10 mods

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    Fmslick
    last edited by Jun 22, 2017, 2:28 AM Jun 21, 2017, 12:45 AM

    @stephenw10:

    The lcdproc package should run pretty reliably in 2.3.4 with whatever option screens you selected.

    To get the NIC LEDs working as expected you need the modified drivers that set the LED registers correctly. However I've seen some reports of them not running nicely in 2.3.X. YMMV.

    Steve

    yeah I will have to work on the LCD a bit and I think I am one of them who is going to have the LED's not run nicely :/ I did modified the drivers and they are still the same. Guess ill have to look into this a bit more.  ::)

    EDIT/ADD TO:
    So I got my IDE drive and installed it, I will make a new post later on to update on the progress

    We all start same where

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      magicshine
      last edited by Jul 4, 2017, 7:47 AM Jul 3, 2017, 11:20 AM

      I wanted to say a big thanks for this thread, it got me thinking and working away.

      I have been running a Hyper-V VM of pf as my main firewall/VPN in and out to the datacentre for a while but moving to ESXi and having some VM outages led me to wanting hardware appliance to run pf on to avoid having to talk the better half through booting up clustered storage to get pf online and letting me VPN in to fix issues.

      I managed to pick up a WatchGuard X1250E for £125 locally, I then bought a few extras (2x 1GB sticks of PC-8500 RAM, Intel Pentium M 2GHZ CPU, PCIe SATA controller, 4x PCIe flex extender, cables and other misc) and got hacking. I had a stack of 2.5" sata HDD's and SSD's.

      I found that NONE of my CF cards would boot the box (being a photographer, I had lots of cards but none old or slow enough (yes I did change the mode, access and head settings)). I made a clone of the original WG image and then flashed the original 512MB card with FreeDOS and flashed the B7 bios.

      After much batteling with the CF cards I gave in and soldered a USB extension cable to the mobo front connector. I did have difficulty soldering to the ground pad, so I soldered to the shield of the network ports. I also added power from the ATX connector to sata power lead. I know you can use a USB header and have it running at the front but I wanted to route the USB to one of the rear red expansion plates to run my UPS into eventually.

      I then removed the WG PCIe riser and installed my flex extension, added the sata card (mounted to the rear expansion plate as shown below) and by removing the lower plastic card guide, screwed the sata HDD to the existing holes (it needed a gentle file to the rear of the case to fit the HDD in as it is a bit far back).

      With the USB connection working, I flashed a 2.1 serial usbboot image to the stick and got pf installed via serial. From here I left it as a pretty vanilla config, plugged into the network and created a quick allow all rule to get internet access on the box. Then performed an online update to 2.3.4 without any notable issues. From here I restored a backup of my operational pf VM and configured everything as needed (interface names were different, some change in rules etc.)

      I am running a few extra packages, LCDProc, Snort, Squid and it seems to handle these reasonably well. I have noticed though, sometimes after making a few chages to items such as my multiple OpenVPN clients, there would be multiple PHP processes spawned and the CPU would be battered up at 100%. Restarting LCDProc seemed to resolve this. So for now I will stop the service before making a lot of changes and then run once finished (though, making a lot of changes is a rare thing for obvious reasons).

      I have hit an issue today, I normally VPN in via IPSEC over my 4G connection for remote work in the office but in trying to establish the VPN connection today it seems to have half killed the box. I cannot SSH or access the webconfigurator and my OpenVPN connection to the datacentre is down but internet access works fine. That's something to look at during lunch after a drive home.

      TL;DR: Saw this and other posts, bought kit, built firewall. Success.

      Attached are some images of my install for anyone who is interested. I have recently moved house so the rack is in need of a tidy, but as it is in the garage it is neglected currently due to the new family addition! I have a stack of new hardware to go in.

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by Jul 3, 2017, 7:13 PM

        Nice.  :)

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          DeLorean
          last edited by Jul 5, 2017, 10:12 PM

          @magicshine:

          I found that NONE of my CF cards would boot the box (being a photographer, I had lots of cards but none old or slow enough (yes I did change the mode, access and head settings)). I made a clone of the original WG image and then flashed the original 512MB card with FreeDOS and flashed the B7 bios.

          If you flashed Bios version 8.1 , you can forget the settings mode, access and head , because this version
          automatic configure your CF card.

          Grtz
          DeLorean

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            vizi0n
            last edited by Jul 18, 2017, 10:24 PM

            @Fmslick:

            @stephenw10:

            The lcdproc package should run pretty reliably in 2.3.4 with whatever option screens you selected.

            To get the NIC LEDs working as expected you need the modified drivers that set the LED registers correctly. However I've seen some reports of them not running nicely in 2.3.X. YMMV.

            Steve

            yeah I will have to work on the LCD a bit and I think I am one of them who is going to have the LED's not run nicely :/ I did modified the drivers and they are still the same. Guess ill have to look into this a bit more.  ::)

            EDIT/ADD TO:
            So I got my IDE drive and installed it, I will make a new post later on to update on the progress

            I am using these:
            http://www.vizi0n.com/watchguard/if_sk.ko
            http://www.vizi0n.com/watchguard/if_msk.ko

            Solid when link up and no activity
            Blinks when there is activity

            Works fine on 2.3.4

            You can verifiy if the mod is running by running "dmesg | grep LED". You should see an output like this:

            
            [2.3.4-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/root: dmesg | grep LED
            mskc0: <marvell yukon="" 88e8053="" gigabit="" ethernet="" (led="" mod="" 2.2)="">port 0x8000-0x80ff mem 0xd0020000-0xd0023fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1
            mskc1: <marvell yukon="" 88e8053="" gigabit="" ethernet="" (led="" mod="" 2.2)="">port 0x9000-0x90ff mem 0xd0120000-0xd0123fff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci2
            mskc2: <marvell yukon="" 88e8053="" gigabit="" ethernet="" (led="" mod="" 2.2)="">port 0xa000-0xa0ff mem 0xd0220000-0xd0223fff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci3
            mskc3: <marvell yukon="" 88e8053="" gigabit="" ethernet="" (led="" mod="" 2.2)="">port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xd0320000-0xd0323fff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci4
            skc0: <marvell gigabit="" ethernet="" (led="" mod="" 2.2)="">port 0xc000-0xc0ff mem 0xd042c000-0xd042ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci5
            skc1: <marvell gigabit="" ethernet="" (led="" mod="" 2.2)="">port 0xc400-0xc4ff mem 0xd0420000-0xd0423fff irq 17 at device 1.0 on pci5
            skc2: <marvell gigabit="" ethernet="" (led="" mod="" 2.2)="">port 0xc800-0xc8ff mem 0xd0424000-0xd0427fff irq 18 at device 2.0 on pci5
            skc3: <marvell gigabit="" ethernet="" (led="" mod="" 2.2)="">port 0xcc00-0xccff mem 0xd0428000-0xd042bfff irq 19 at device 3.0 on pci5</marvell></marvell></marvell></marvell></marvell></marvell></marvell></marvell> 
            
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              magicshine
              last edited by Jul 28, 2017, 9:05 AM

              So after running my appliance for a while, it seems to be rather unstable and would fall over daily.
              Mostly when getting a hit of traffic around 50Mb/s.
              The local console would appear normal, but all network traffic would drop and you would not be able to get into the WebGui. I am going to remove the extra 4 ports on the PCIe card and see if this stabilises it, as I know these have been problematic and it does look like a NIC drop to me.

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                DeLorean
                last edited by Jul 29, 2017, 7:49 PM

                @magicshine:

                So after running my appliance for a while, it seems to be rather unstable and would fall over daily.
                Mostly when getting a hit of traffic around 50Mb/s.
                The local console would appear normal, but all network traffic would drop and you would not be able to get into the WebGui. I am going to remove the extra 4 ports on the PCIe card and see if this stabilises it, as I know these have been problematic and it does look like a NIC drop to me.

                I think your problem is the ribbon cable between motherboard
                and PCI-E Sata controller.
                This ribbon seems to be very thin in comparison with a normal PCI-E 1x Risercable.

                Grtz
                DeLorean

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by Jul 29, 2017, 11:53 PM

                  Did you add the msi loader variable for the sk driver?
                  https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox#Known_Issues_2

                  That does only affect the expansion card NICs though and you usually see the timeout errors on the console if you are hitting that.

                  Steve

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                    magicshine
                    last edited by Jul 31, 2017, 9:02 AM

                    Thanks DeLorean / Steve.

                    I will replace the ribbon to rule it out, however the console remains fully functional and the shell is usable so I doubt it is that.

                    Steve, there are no timeout messages and having known there was an issue with the 4 extra ports, I configured the LAN interface on SK0 so that I would still be able to access the device, but this drops too. I will have a read through the link and see if I make any progress.

                    Thanks

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by Jul 31, 2017, 3:25 PM

                      If all the NICs stop passing traffic you might check for an mbuf limit being hit. You would usually see something logged when that happens.

                      [2.3.4-RELEASE][root@pfsense.fire.box]/root: netstat -m
                      11100/1305/12405 mbufs in use (current/cache/total)
                      2997/799/3796/20758 mbuf clusters in use (current/cache/total/max)
                      2997/798 mbuf+clusters out of packet secondary zone in use (current/cache)
                      0/10/10/10378 4k (page size) jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max)
                      0/0/0/3075 9k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max)
                      0/0/0/1729 16k jumbo clusters in use (current/cache/total/max)
                      9045K/1964K/11009K bytes allocated to network (current/cache/total)
                      0/0/0 requests for mbufs denied (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters)
                      0/0/0 requests for mbufs delayed (mbufs/clusters/mbuf+clusters)
                      0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters delayed (4k/9k/16k)
                      0/0/0 requests for jumbo clusters denied (4k/9k/16k)
                      0/9/6656 sfbufs in use (current/peak/max)
                      0 requests for sfbufs denied
                      0 requests for sfbufs delayed
                      0 requests for I/O initiated by sendfile
                      
                      

                      Steve

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                        Fmslick
                        last edited by Oct 7, 2017, 1:40 AM

                        I know this is a bit old but i'm just now getting a bit of free time!  ::)

                        @vizi0n:

                        @Fmslick:

                        @stephenw10:

                        The lcdproc package should run pretty reliably in 2.3.4 with whatever option screens you selected.

                        To get the NIC LEDs working as expected you need the modified drivers that set the LED registers correctly. However I've seen some reports of them not running nicely in 2.3.X. YMMV.

                        Steve

                        yeah I will have to work on the LCD a bit and I think I am one of them who is going to have the LED's not run nicely :/ I did modified the drivers and they are still the same. Guess ill have to look into this a bit more.  ::)

                        EDIT/ADD TO:
                        So I got my IDE drive and installed it, I will make a new post later on to update on the progress

                        I am using these:
                        http://www.vizi0n.com/watchguard/if_sk.ko
                        http://www.vizi0n.com/watchguard/if_msk.ko

                        Solid when link up and no activity
                        Blinks when there is activity

                        Works fine on 2.3.4

                        You can verifiy if the mod is running by running "dmesg | grep LED". You should see an output like this:

                        
                        [2.3.4-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/root: dmesg | grep LED
                        mskc0: <marvell yukon="" 88e8053="" gigabit="" ethernet="" (led="" mod="" 2.2)="">port 0x8000-0x80ff mem 0xd0020000-0xd0023fff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci1
                        mskc1: <marvell yukon="" 88e8053="" gigabit="" ethernet="" (led="" mod="" 2.2)="">port 0x9000-0x90ff mem 0xd0120000-0xd0123fff irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci2
                        mskc2: <marvell yukon="" 88e8053="" gigabit="" ethernet="" (led="" mod="" 2.2)="">port 0xa000-0xa0ff mem 0xd0220000-0xd0223fff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci3
                        mskc3: <marvell yukon="" 88e8053="" gigabit="" ethernet="" (led="" mod="" 2.2)="">port 0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xd0320000-0xd0323fff irq 19 at device 0.0 on pci4
                        skc0: <marvell gigabit="" ethernet="" (led="" mod="" 2.2)="">port 0xc000-0xc0ff mem 0xd042c000-0xd042ffff irq 16 at device 0.0 on pci5
                        skc1: <marvell gigabit="" ethernet="" (led="" mod="" 2.2)="">port 0xc400-0xc4ff mem 0xd0420000-0xd0423fff irq 17 at device 1.0 on pci5
                        skc2: <marvell gigabit="" ethernet="" (led="" mod="" 2.2)="">port 0xc800-0xc8ff mem 0xd0424000-0xd0427fff irq 18 at device 2.0 on pci5
                        skc3: <marvell gigabit="" ethernet="" (led="" mod="" 2.2)="">port 0xcc00-0xccff mem 0xd0428000-0xd042bfff irq 19 at device 3.0 on pci5</marvell></marvell></marvell></marvell></marvell></marvell></marvell></marvell> 
                        

                        Thanks I will give this a try.

                        PS.
                        Sorry I didn't post an update like I said, it was late and I was at the DC working and on a bit of a slow night when I did the mod so I forgot to take pic's  :(

                        We all start same where

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