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    Firebox X550 - Odd network drop outs.

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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      As you found lcdproc is in the stable release now.

      Device Polling is almost universally a terrible idea and has been for a long while now. Though it costs nothing to try it.  ;)

      The most likely cause is that you have components on the board letting go. Most of those boxes will have seen many hundreds of thousands of hours runtime. And even the one that haven't are still built from old components.

      Are you seeing that on all 4 NICs? What if you re-assign them to a different order?

      Since it won't run 2.4 anyway it may be time to upgrade.

      Steve

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        whiteknight
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        I haven't tried different NICs yet, but that's an interesting shout.  Will give it a go.  As noted i am using 0 and 3 atm, so i can try 1 and 2.

        The box itself seems in very good condition and I know its full heritage since new so its not been mis-treated.  Nothing internally looks amiss so i don't think there's anything bad like faulty caps or anything but i guess that could be a cause.

        Whats the deal with 2.4 tho? Why wont it run on the X550?

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          Suricata
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          @whiteknight:

          Whats the deal with 2.4 tho? Why wont it run on the X550?

          In pfSense 2.4, i386 (32-bit x86) is no longer supported, 64-bit hardware is required.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            That^

            The X-Core-e boxes are 32bit only. It will be supported for a year after 2.4 is released so there's no real urgency but since you have (potentially) failing hardware and 2.4 is imminent it could be upgrade time.

            Steve

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              whiteknight
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              Oh ok, that sucks.  The fireboxes are really nice units (assuming they work).

              Are there any similar after-market mods that give a similar "professional" looking result that do have x64 hardware ?  Newer fireboxes etc…

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                I personally had years of fun with those boxes but everything must end and those I have left are becoming less reliable.

                Hard for me to really recommend anything besides our own hardware  ;) (https://store.pfsense.org/)

                There are newer fireboxes that are 64bit. See: https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/PfSense_on_Watchguard_Firebox

                Also other old hardware.

                If you are buying new gear though try to get something that supports AES-NI:
                https://www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-2-5-and-aes-ni.html

                Steve

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                  whiteknight
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                  Thanks for that.

                  And yes, i appreciate that you cant really offer "off-brand" advice but this is only for my home network so i cant really justify $1800-$3600 on a firewall.  But i do need something with more grunt (and functionality) than the little 2 port unit would offer.  Also something that doesn't sound like a 747 taking off would be great :)

                  The XTM 5 looks like it might be a workable solution as the CPU supports 64bit, and they can be had relatively cheaply on ebay.  Obviously this still has the potential for age related issues, but worth a try at least.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    I will say that while I have an XTM5 I use for testing and have also had hours of fun with that it cannot run any CPU that supports AES-NI.

                    Steve

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                      whiteknight
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                      Interesting development.  The Cisco/Linksys router that I decided to fall-back onto as a stop gap solution decided to start doing exactly the same thing.  When i picked it up it was red-hot.  After taking it out of the rack its cooled down and started behaving again.

                      Looks like it could simply be a cooling issue.

                      We have had particularly warm weather recently, and the rack the kit is stored in can get warm but the Watchguard didn't seem that hot from the temp readouts…. i might try it again out of the rack and see, and try tweaking the fan speed too.

                      Also what benefit does AES-NI give me for normal firewall/routing/filtering duties?  I thought that was just for encryption and vpn?  Is the lack of that a show-stopper?  Or will VPN still be available, just slower or less secure?

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        It has been warm this week in the UK (relatively  ;)). If you have the fan speed turned down that could be it. Watchguard had the fans at max all the time. The CPU is directly cooled but the average airflow through the box is what keeps everything else cool, there may well be some hot spots.

                        Lack of AES-NI will likely be a show stopper. You should assume 2.5 will not run on anything (x86) that doesn't support it. Again we will be supporting 2.4 for sometime after that though.
                        I won't go any deeper than that here, there are a number of other threads discussing it.

                        Steve

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