6 x Intel LAN / i3 7100U Fanless Mini PC
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@VAMike
Did you see this thread?
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The FAST 2016 paper Flash Reliability in Production: The Expected and the Unexpected, by Professor Bianca Schroeder of the University of Toronto, and Raghav Lagisetty and Arif Merchant of Google, covers:
"KEY CONCLUSIONS
Ignore Uncorrectable Bit Error Rate (UBER) specs. A meaningless number.
Good news: Raw Bit Error Rate (RBER) increases slower than expected from wearout and is not correlated with UBER or other failures.
High-end SLC drives are no more reliable that MLC drives.
Bad news: SSDs fail at a lower rate than disks, but UBER rate is higher (see below for what this means).
SSD age, not usage, affects reliability.
Bad blocks in new SSDs are common, and drives with a large number of bad blocks are much more likely to lose hundreds of other blocks, most likely due to die or chip failure.
30-80 percent of SSDs develop at least one bad block and 2-7 percent develop at least one bad chip in the first four years of deployment."From http://www.zdnet.com/article/ssd-reliability-in-the-real-world-googles-experience/
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@VAMike
Did you see this thread?
https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=34381.0That thread is rather irrelevant. It boils down to this: if you use shit SSDs, they will randomly fail. Newsflash: that goes for all your components.
On top of that: HDDs have failures just the same, just as they have wear all the same. The difference is moving parts vs. no moving parts, and not having moving parts is better. End of discussion? -
@VAMike
Did you see this thread?
https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=34381.0Yes, it's pretty silly.
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I guess I'm a little conservative about hardware choice. I think I'll stick with HGST and Western Digital for now, though. I'm unconvinced about SSDs being as reliable as HDD.
On another, perhaps more useful note, I have a question in to one of the purveyors of this hardware in an attempt to determine if the BIOS is updated to fix the hyperthreading instability in intel gen 7.
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I guess I'm a little conservative about hardware choice. I think I'll stick with HGST and Western Digital for now, though. I'm unconvinced about SSDs being as reliable as HDD.
On another, perhaps more useful note, I have a question in to one of the purveyors of this hardware in an attempt to determine if the BIOS is updated to fix the hyperthreading instability in intel gen 7.
If you were conservative, you'd be using an industrial compact flash card.
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I guess I'm a little conservative about hardware choice. I think I'll stick with HGST and Western Digital for now, though. I'm unconvinced about SSDs being as reliable as HDD.
Hey, if you want to base your decisions on a 6 year old thread about dodgy hardware, it doesn't really matter to me. Have fun!
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I've had two regular hdd's fail on pfsense until now. After i got the ssd I've had no problems.
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I've had two regular hdd's fail on pfsense until now. After i got the ssd I've had no problems.
My Kingston hyper X 120GB SSD has been running 24/7 for almost a year, thank God nothing has gone wrong. Even when I turned the mains power off, it re booted very quickly.
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I've had two regular hdd's fail on pfsense until now. After i got the ssd I've had no problems.
My Kingston hyper X 120GB SSD has been running 24/7 for almost a year, thank God nothing has gone wrong. Even when I turned the mains power off, it re booted very quickly.
I had 9 Toshiba Q300 all die within a week, but my old X25-M is still working. Just like any hardware: bad series exist, but that doesn't make the whole thing bad. I have a bunch of Crucial and Samsung drives in the field that work fine as well. Have working HDD installs as well, just as failed HDD installs.
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@johnkeates:
I've had two regular hdd's fail on pfsense until now. After i got the ssd I've had no problems.
My Kingston hyper X 120GB SSD has been running 24/7 for almost a year, thank God nothing has gone wrong. Even when I turned the mains power off, it re booted very quickly.
I had 9 Toshiba Q300 all die within a week, but my old X25-M is still working. Just like any hardware: bad series exist, but that doesn't make the whole thing bad. I have a bunch of Crucial and Samsung drives in the field that work fine as well. Have working HDD installs as well, just as failed HDD installs.
I think I am persuaded to go with mSATA or M.2 in the future. I just wish I had more data on which supplier is more reliable. I have always been a fan of Kingston for reliability in RAM. I was considering Samsung for some M.2 purchases.
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@johnkeates:
I've had two regular hdd's fail on pfsense until now. After i got the ssd I've had no problems.
My Kingston hyper X 120GB SSD has been running 24/7 for almost a year, thank God nothing has gone wrong. Even when I turned the mains power off, it re booted very quickly.
I had 9 Toshiba Q300 all die within a week, but my old X25-M is still working. Just like any hardware: bad series exist, but that doesn't make the whole thing bad. I have a bunch of Crucial and Samsung drives in the field that work fine as well. Have working HDD installs as well, just as failed HDD installs.
That is pretty horrendous. I looked up who made the storage chips and it was their own.
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I'm using Tosh A100 (240G) in my Qotom i5 , no probs detected.
http://www.toshiba.eu/hard-drives/solid-state/ssd-a100/As John writes , maybe a bad series.
I had a Segate 1G SSHD go bad withinĀ year , replaced it with a Toshiba 1G SSHD - Has been running fine for 2+ years now.
I promised never to use a Seagate again (too bad they bought the samsung disk division)For the time being - Toshiba is my favourite 2.5" manuf.
/Bingo
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I just got a Qotom clone, the 4-port model that's so popular (only a Celeron CPU, which should be plenty for my purposes).Ā It seems solidly-built, and everything works out of the box except the wifi card.Ā Wifi hardware compatibility seems to be "the catch" when it comes to this class of boxes and PFSense.
Mine came with an AzureWave AW-NU708H:
https://wikidevi.com/wiki/AzureWave_AW-NU706H
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QOTOM related questions go to QOTOM thread. Locking this thread as it's already off-topic.
