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    [SOLVED] Policy-Based Routing Not Consistently Going Out the Specified Gateway

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      Finger79
      last edited by

      I get that. Fortunately, gateway flapping appears to not be the reason behind this.

      When I do a fresh reboot of pfSense, the tablet traffic consistently goes out the WAN, as expected.  Some time later (or some event later), it decides to go out the VPN only, even though the rule still fires that specifies WANGW.  It's just ignoring the gateway in the rule but still logging the rule as having fired.  Weird.

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      • DerelictD
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
        last edited by

        Doubtful. There is some other reason the traffic is not matching that policy routing rule - else it would be policy routed accordingly.

        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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          Finger79
          last edited by

          @Derelict:

          Doubtful. There is some other reason the traffic is not matching that policy routing rule - else it would be policy routed accordingly.

          Then why does the rule match in the Firewall Logs?

          As you can see, the rule is very simple.  If the source is .103 IPv4, then policy route it through WANGW.

          This works perfectly after a fresh reboot of pfSense.  Then like I said, after some time or some event, it no longer goes out the WANGW and goes out the VPN.  Something is overriding the routing portion of the firewall rule.

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            Finger79
            last edited by

            Just did some more, all from Firefox on the tablet:

            Shows real WAN IP
            Google "What is my IP"
            iplocation.com
            whatismyip.net
            privateinternetaccess.com
            whatismyip.org
            ExpressVPN.com
            MXtoolbox.com
            ip-address.org
            iplocation.net
            findipinfo.com
            myipaddress.com

            Shows VPN IP
            TorGuard.net
            DuckDuckGo "What is my IP"
            whatismyipaddress.com
            BearsMyIP.com
            ipchicken.com
            ipaddress.pro

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            • luckman212L
              luckman212 LAYER 8
              last edited by

              @Finger79:

              Then why does the rule match in the Firewall Logs?

              As you can see, the rule is very simple.  If the source is .103 IPv4, then policy route it through WANGW.

              Do you have a kill switch rule below the policy route for .103 to block all traffic? You need this in case WANGW is down, because rules will be skipped if the GW is flapping, could explain your inconsistent results…

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              • DerelictD
                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                last edited by

                When it stops working, run this:

                pfctl -vvsr | grep -A3 XX.XX.XX.103

                Here: I'll show you one of mine. I'm not afraid of leaking inside addresses:

                $ pfctl -vvsr | grep -A3 192.168.223.6

                @307(1493852191) pass in quick on igb1.223 route-to (ovpnc3 172.29.114.130) inet from 192.168.223.6 to <openvpn_lan:2>flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: Route OpenVPN Addresses Through OpenVPN"
                  [ Evaluations: 2386      Packets: 0        Bytes: 0          States: 0    ]
                  [ Inserted: pid 21796 State Creations: 0    ]

                Anyway, that will show the EXACT rules in the active rule set that have anything to do with that address at that specific point in time.</openvpn_lan:2>

                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                  Finger79
                  last edited by

                  @124(10000001) pass in log quick on igb1 inet from 192.168.100.103 to <negate_net   ="" works:0="">flags S/SA keep state label "NEGATE_ROUTE: Negate policy routing for de                                                                                                                              stination"
                    [ Evaluations: 2572      Packets: 0        Bytes: 0          States: 0    ]
                    [ Inserted: pid 54887 State Creations: 0    ]
                  @125(1505701172) pass in log quick on igb1 route-to (igb0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx public IP) inet from                                                                                                                                192.168.100.103 to any flags S/SA keep state label "USER_RULE: Tablet Out Naked WAN"
                    [ Evaluations: 865      Packets: 55591    Bytes: 19139183    States: 5    ]
                    [ Inserted: pid 54887 State Creations: 807  ]
                  @126(1458032398) block return in log quick on igb1 inet from any to <pfb_africa_   ="" v4:6176="">label "USER_RULE: pfb_Africa"</pfb_africa_ ></negate_net >

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                  • DerelictD
                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                    last edited by

                    Looks good to me unless negate_networks includes the wrong destinations, which is pretty unlikely.

                    Or if there is a rule that matches that source address that won't be shown there.

                    I'd be happy to look at /tmp/rules.debug if you want to PM it.

                    Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                    A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                    DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                    Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                      Finger79
                      last edited by

                      Somewhat redacted and edited:

                      < /tmp/rules.debug removed >

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                        Finger79
                        last edited by

                        Wonder if this table should be empty:

                        Diagnostics -> Tables
                        negate_networks

                        No entries exist in this table.

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                        • DerelictD
                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                          last edited by

                          pass  in  quick  on $LAN  $GWPIA_TX_CHI inet proto tcp  from any to $Facebook port 443  tag "NO_WAN_EGRESS" tracker 1422073736 flags S/SA keep state  label "USER_RULE: Allow Facebook"
                          pass  in  quick  on $LAN inet proto tcp  from any to $CloudFlare port $HTTP_HTTPS tracker 1422073738 flags S/SA keep state  label "USER_RULE: CloudFlare"
                          pass  in log  quick  on $LAN inet from 192.168.100.103  to <negate_networks>tracker 10000001 keep state  label "NEGATE_ROUTE: Negate policy routing for destination"
                          pass  in log  quick  on $LAN  $GWWANGW inet from 192.168.100.103 to any tracker 1505701172 keep state  label "USER_RULE: Asus Tablet Out Naked WAN"

                          Anything at $Facebook/443 or $CloudFlare/$HTTP_HTTPS will not match your source 192.168.100.103 rules. That is probably your problem.

                          Put the most specific rules at the top.</negate_networks>

                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                            Finger79
                            last edited by

                            It was that damned CloudFlare rule.
                            I re-ran the list of places that previously showed the VPN IP and they all reported the real WAN IP as expected.

                            I really hope this consistently fixes it.  I'll update the thread if it doesn't fix it after I've pulled some hair out.

                            (BTW, those Facebook IPs are straight from Facebook so only include their CIDR blocks and nobody else.  Back when that info was public.)

                            Shows VPN IP
                            TorGuard.net –> Shows real IP :)
                            DuckDuckGo "What is my IP" --> Shows real IP :)
                            whatismyipaddress.com --> Shows real IP :)
                            BearsMyIP.com --> Shows real IP :)
                            ipchicken.com --> Shows real IP :)
                            ipaddress.pro --> Shows real IP :)

                            Anecdotally, this also tells me just how many sites are CloudFlare customers (at least the free account).  Holy crap it's a lot.

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