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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      So your public IPv4 you are getting are they in the same netblock or different.  Your IPv6 that you get are they different prefixes behind your pfsense?

      So they are completely separate parallel setups just using the same ISP.    Or do these pfsense have rfc1918 on their wan so they are behind a nat?  You say not natted by modem so I assume your ISP is giving you different public ipv4 and different ipv6 prefixes behind the 2 pfsense boxes.

      If so then 1 has zero to do with the other.

      I can tell you that ipv6 test works just fine on 2.4 beta that is for sure..

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        bimmerdriver
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        @johnpoz:

        So your public IPv4 you are getting are they in the same netblock or different.  Your IPv6 that you get are they different prefixes behind your pfsense?

        So they are completely separate parallel setups just using the same ISP.    Or do these pfsense have rfc1918 on their wan so they are behind a nat?  You say not natted by modem so I assume your ISP is giving you different public ipv4 and different ipv6 prefixes behind the 2 pfsense boxes.

        If so then 1 has zero to do with the other.

        I can tell you that ipv6 test works just fine on 2.4 beta that is for sure..

        Effectively, I have three completely separate dual-stack networks. One for the modem and one for each of the pfsense routers. The ipv4 addresses are all public (not private) in separate /30 subnets. The ipv6 are separate /56 prefixes. It's been a while since I wiresharked the WAN switch. I don't recall if I could see packets from the modem, but I could see packets from both pfsense routers.

        Just trying to get behind why the results from ipv6-test.com are so inconsistent. One time it refreshes almost instantly with 20/20. The next time, one or more of the tests either take a while and pass or fail.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          "The ipv6 are separate /56 prefixes."

          Huh??  You mean your delegated 3 different /56's that you then subnet down to /64s

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            bimmerdriver
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            @johnpoz:

            "The ipv6 are separate /56 prefixes."

            Huh??  You mean your delegated 3 different /56's that you then subnet down to /64s

            Yes. Sorry, thought that was obvious. My ISP delegates /56 prefixes. That's all. I have three, one for my modem / router and one for each of my pfsense routers and their associated LANs. I haven't tried to get another, but I suppose it's possible.

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            • JKnottJ
              JKnott
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              Only 3 /56s???  I hope that's enough addresses!  ;)

              PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
              i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
              UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                bimmerdriver
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                This problem has been continuing intermittently. I looked at the source of the ipv6-test.com webpage and noticed that they use the address v6.ipv6-test.com for the ipv6 icmp test. I found that when the test is working, I can ping the address and when it's not working, I can't ping it.

                Here is the output of traceroute with the problem. In this case, I'm using my Telus isp connection.

                C:\Users\VPN>tracert -6 v6.ipv6-test.com Tracing route to v6.ipv6-test.com [2001:41d0:8:e8ad::1] over a maximum of 30 hops:
                1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  pfSense.localdomain [2001:::*:215:5dff:fe5c:e205]
                2    10 ms    9 ms    11 ms  node-1w7jr9n36nixrvaceajc2pstq.ipv6.telus.net [2001:569:2:f::2e]
                3    *        *        *    Request timed out.
                4  224 ms    86 ms    61 ms  po9.mtl-1-6k.qc.ca [2607:5300::9c]
                5    63 ms    63 ms    63 ms  2607:5300::1ca
                6    62 ms    62 ms    62 ms  2607:5300::1c3
                7    *        *        *    Request timed out.
                8  142 ms    *      143 ms  vl5.vss-10b-6k.routers.ovh.net [2001:41d0::b1e]
                9    *        *        *    Request timed out.
                …
                30    *        *        *    Request timed out.
                Trace complete.

                Here is the output of traceroute without the problem. In this case, I'm using my vpn connection.

                You can see that the last hop before the host is within OVH.

                C:\Users\VPN>tracert -6 v6.ipv6-test.com Tracing route to v6.ipv6-test.com [2001:41d0:8:e8ad::1] over a maximum of 30 hops:

                1 20 ms 18 ms 18 ms fdda:d0d0:cafe:1194::
                2 26 ms 29 ms 25 ms 2605:80:18::1
                3 58 ms 49 ms 36 ms 2605:8c80:0:2::9
                4 52 ms 39 ms 28 ms 2001:504:19::27
                5 80 ms 53 ms 58 ms 100ge10-2.core1.sea1.he.net [2001:470:0:3ac::1]
                6 72 ms 78 ms 70 ms 100ge11-1.core1.sjc2.he.net [2001:470:0:1fe::1]
                7 * * * Request timed out.
                8 106 ms 109 ms 120 ms be100-1365.lax-la1-bb1-a9.ca.us [2607:5300::36]
                9 105 ms 105 ms 110 ms be100-1367.ash-1-a9.va.us [2607:5300::47]
                10 * 95 ms * be100-1007.nwk-5-a9.nj.us [2607:5300::2]
                11 176 ms 174 ms 168 ms be100-1298.ldn-5-a9.uk.eu [2607:5300::190]
                12 189 ms * 188 ms 2001:41d0::10fe
                13 194 ms 183 ms 187 ms po100.rbx-g2-a75.fr.eu [2001:41d0::b91]
                14 182 ms * * vl7.vss-10b-6k.routers.ovh.net [2001:41d0::b92]
                15 195 ms 199 ms 209 ms agaric.t0x.net [2001:41d0:8:e8ad::1]

                Trace complete.

                It looks like there is an intermittent problem within OVH or where their edge router connects to the network where the host is located.

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                • awebsterA
                  awebster
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                  Intermittent for me too with native IPv6.  Personally, I use http://test-ipv6.com which gives me consistent results.
                  Do you really expect OVH to be properly hosting IPv6?  Other threads on this forum seem to indicate otherwise!

                  –A.

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                    bimmerdriver
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                    @awebster:

                    Intermittent for me too with native IPv6.  Personally, I use http://test-ipv6.com which gives me consistent results.
                    Do you really expect OVH to be properly hosting IPv6?  Other threads on this forum seem to indicate otherwise!

                    I agree that test-ipv6.com does give consistent results.

                    I have no expectations of OVH good or bad. Until now, I had never even heard of them.

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                      bimmerdriver
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                      Just to provide an update on this. I did try reporting it to OVH. Their support organization support@ovh.ca did not reply to my emails so I phoned them. Hard as it is to believe, they told me to try reporting it to their abuse website. They said there might be better response. I did get a response, but as is plain to see, they still have not fixed the problem. I guess the lesson here is if you are looking for a company to host your website, don't use OVH. Their network is broken and their service sucks.

                      I guess the other lesson is to not bother using ipv6-test.com, because they apparently don't care about it working enough to select a hosting provider that provides a network that supports ipv6. They also don't reply to email. On the other hand, test-ipv6.com reliably works and the maintainer even responds to email.

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                      • GertjanG
                        Gertjan
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                        @bimmerdriver:

                        Just to provide an update on this. I did try reporting it to OVH. Their support organization support@ovh.ca did not reply to my emails so I phoned them. Hard as it is to believe, they told me to try reporting it to their abuse website. They said there might be better response. I did get a response, but as is plain to see, they still have not fixed the problem. I guess the lesson here is if you are looking for a company to host your website, don't use OVH. Their network is broken and their service sucks.
                        ..

                        Their (OVH) transit router replied to the ping, some routers before, and some afterwards (not OVH) didn't.

                        Not very related, but :
                        I don't know if OVH is a good host for a web site - I can't tell. I have some 10 web sites with them and several dedicated servers - never used comparable services else where for the last 10 years, so,. So, I can't compare  ;) Never contacted their commercial or technical support (ok, may once or twice in 10 years).  Of course, my sites are up with a pretty 99,999 % uptime for the mentioned time span.
                        Btw : replying to ICMP (ping) is important when IPv6 comes into play, for IPv4 it was less important.
                        It's said that OVH isn't following all 'official' guidelines concerning IPv6 implementation - this is probably true when we talk about them as an ISP, but on my dedicated servers, IPv6 (a classic /64 each) works great for the last several years. Same thing for the basic site hosting services.

                        True is that OVH is investing like no other company in networking, except for Google probably. See http://weathermap.ovh.net/#europe for Europe, USA and the rest.
                        When they have an issue like two weeks ago : 2 independent high tension lines went down (in theory, in France, not possible  ;D) AND a main backup diesel power supply  didn't start, all their boarding routers went down (my servers stayed up btw) and most of their data centers became unreachable. It create a huge hole on the Internet map ….
                        BIG == vulnerable.

                        edit : OVH is one of the companies that offered a "host a WordPress or commercial site yourself" for a coupe of € a year. So, even my grandmother thought its was time to build her own site ... She neither wasn't aware that some knowledge was needed to actually 'run' a site and 'send that mail'  (and OVH wasn't and isn't selling knowledge ...).

                        edit2 : as johnpoz :
                        ( I don't know why my navigators prefer IPv4 now, before switching to IPv6. Normally, they do it the other way around (I use he.net for IPv6). Whatever ...)

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                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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