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    Can Wifi APs get overwhemed by torrent connections ..?

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    • DerelictD
      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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      Put a limiter on them so they can't monopolize the bandwidth.

      You generally do not have to worry about client density in such an environment (given decent wi-fi gear) because the physical obstructions (walls, etc) mean that not enough clients can reach each AP so as to overwhelm them.

      It sounds like many of your questions are better-suited for the wi-fi vendor of your choice. (based on past experience I would pick ubiquiti over engenius and ruckus over either).

      190 users is nothing as far as pfSense is concerned, but pfSense captive portal has no way to limit a user to just two devices. It is either one or as many as they want per login. You could use a single-device voucher portal and give each user two.

      Anything with a 3GHz clock should be fine. Use Intel NICs. Broadcom-based server NICs (such as pulls from Dell servers) have never given me a problem either.

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        ashima LAYER 8
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        Thank you Derelict for replying, would need a suggestion .

        For the discussed location what are your thoughts about :-

        1.  Ubiquity Unifi AP AC Lite  vs  Tp-Link EAP 245.

        2.  Ubiquity Unifi AP AC Pro  vs  Tp-Link EAP 330.

        regards,
        Ashima

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          TP link wouldn't even make bottom of the long list. There is no chance would use tplink even if they were FREE…

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          • DerelictD
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
            last edited by

            At the very least: s/tplink/dlink/

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            • NogBadTheBadN
              NogBadTheBad
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              You might be better looking at the Ubiquity UAP-AC-IW or UAP-AC-IW-PRO in wall models,  if you need to provide ethernet into each room.

              https://inwall.ubnt.com/

              I'd be tempted to use the Ubiquity for the captive portal / guest control, vouchers can be created quite easily via an app on a smart phone or via a web page on a PC, it even supports different payment types if required.

              ISP-A (150Mbps) segmented for 3 Floors.
              ISP-B ( 80Mbps) segmented for 1 Floor.
              ISP-C ( 40Mbps) as a failover for  either ISP-A or ISP-B

              Are you going to have 2 different SSIDs, one for guests on floors 1 - 3 and the other for floor 4, if you just have the one SSID they'll have problems if they roam between the floors as the internet address will change between the floors.

              If you have two the user's will moan when the have to connect to the other SSID :)

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                ashima LAYER 8
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                Thank you all for replying. So a big NO to TPlink.

                @NogBadTheBad,  All the three ISPs will be connected to pfsense. All the Aps will be connected to this box.

                The first  200 dhcp clients will use ISP A the next 50 clients will use ISP B. So depending upon the ip address ISP will be decided by pfsense.

                Will be using same SSID across.

                Is there any thing else I need to take care.

                Regards,
                Ashima

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                  "The first  200 dhcp clients will use ISP A the next 50 clients will use ISP B."

                  Huh??  So if your client 201 your golden you get isp all to your self with all the bandwidth… But if your 200 its going to blow because your sharing bandwidth with 199 others?

                  Why would you not load share across all the isp connections?

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                    ashima LAYER 8
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                    @johnpoz,

                    Well, there will be an upload and download speed restriction through captive portal / freeradius for every user.

                    I guess this would prevent any one of them  eat up the entire bandwidth. Is there any thing else I need to take care.

                    I am not load balancing as ISP A is at 150 Mbps  Up/Down and ISP B is at 30 Mbps up/down and ISP C is at 15Mbps/40Mbps Up/Down

                    So I thought ip based routing would be better. Am I right on this concept ?

                    Regards,
                    Ashima

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                      Never understand the point of such connections… Why would you not have your isp connections close in performance... I can understand maybe having a connection slower for a "backup" link that is cheaper than primary..  Those 3 widely different speeds seems very odd at best..

                      Wouldn't it be better to say get 2 connections from the A isp so you had a total of 300 up/down to work with?

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                        ashima LAYER 8
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                        @johnpoz

                        Yes we can take 2 connections from same ISP. My doubt :

                        Since Its a broadband connection 150 Mbps dn & up both ways ,  the contention ratio  is expected to be  1:16  & having same gateway  unlike  a Leased Line Connection  with contention ratio  1:1  or  1:2 .

                        Are  there any issues  that you perceive    &  foresee to crop up . . . ?

                        regards,
                        Ashima

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