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    • m0njiM
      m0nji
      last edited by

      i will disable my cronjob and give you feedback when it happens again @jimp

      Intel i3-N305 / 4 x 2.5Gbe LAN @2.7.2-Release
      WAN: Vodafone 1000/50, Telekom 250/40; Switch: USW Enterprise 8 PoE, USW Flex XG, US-8-60W; Wifi: Unifi 6 Lite AP, U6 Mesh

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        Birke
        last edited by

        a little update from me:
        after the reboot 8 days ago everything still works (with the modification of the aliases).

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        • m0njiM
          m0nji
          last edited by

          and again, no more update after 11pm.
          "killall -HUP filterdns" has no effect at all.

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          Intel i3-N305 / 4 x 2.5Gbe LAN @2.7.2-Release
          WAN: Vodafone 1000/50, Telekom 250/40; Switch: USW Enterprise 8 PoE, USW Flex XG, US-8-60W; Wifi: Unifi 6 Lite AP, U6 Mesh

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            Birke
            last edited by

            ok, problem is back on my system :'(

            @jimp:

            When the problem happens, does /var/run/filterdns.pid contain a valid PID for filterdns? (Check the "ps uxaww" output to find the filterdns pid)

            yes, its the pid of the running filterdns-process.

            @jimp:

            If you do "killall -HUP filterdns" do the entries resolve again, or are they still missing?

            it doesnt change anything on my machine.

            one thing changed:
            the old entries were not deleted this time. but they are not updated.
            new entries are not resolved but they are added to the filterdns.conf.

            also the mentioned cron-job from m0nji doesnt seem to be a good idea, since the "pkill filterdns" doesn't end the filterdns-process (at least not on my pf). that means only more and more instances of filterdns will start.

            is there any way to really kill that process so i can start a fresh instance?

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              dudi
              last edited by

              I have the same problem!
              No filterDNS in the system->DNS Resolver logs after a week or some days.

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                dudi
                last edited by

                Somebody with a solution?

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                  Birke
                  last edited by

                  not really a solution, only a workaround:
                  run "killall -9 filterdns" in the shell and then "/usr/local/sbin/filterdns -p /var/run/filterdns.pid -i 300 -c /var/etc/filterdns.conf -d 1" (or save and apply an existing alias). you could also put them in a cron as already mentioned.

                  since the error happened to me again, i checked the resolver.log again to see if there is any information what the reason could be. even with debug level 3 there is no clue.
                  the last working entries are some normal adding and clearing entries and some information about some static entries.
                  the next time filterdns should run, it starts with a "Received signal Hangup(1)" entry and only one entry gets deleted and the static entries are listed.
                  after that every time filterdns should run (automatically or after a manual save&apply of an alias), only the hangup-message is in log.

                  ps: seems this thread is about the same problem. maybe both threads should be merged.

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                    Valeriy
                    last edited by

                    I can confirm, same issue is happening with me. It seems to be it, it started happening after pfSense upgrade in Sept-Nov 2017. I am using development snapshot from 10th of January, issue still persists.

                    am using Policy Based Routing (PBR) and heavily rely on a lot of aliases: it took time to realize that tables of IP addresses (referring hostname based aliases) are not updated.

                    So temporary workaround so far is same, what you have suggested:

                    killall -9 filterdns
                    rm /var/pid/filterdns.pid (not sure if it correct path, just writing from my head)

                    and then start filterdns process again (or refresh aliases).

                    In fact, starting filterdns (with proper arguments) sometimes did not help, I had to kill the process again and refresh (edit-save-apply) one of aliases lists.

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                    • jimpJ
                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                      last edited by

                      Do we have any reliable and predictable way to trigger this issue? Any specific alias contents that cause it? Is there a set interval at which the problem occurs? Is there some other event that causes it to fail?

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                      • GertjanG
                        Gertjan
                        last edited by Gertjan

                        I'm not having any issue with filterdns,  but I'm using it, it resolves a couple of (very static) URL's to IPv4 and IPv6.

                        When you guys kill filterdns, restart it like this :

                        /usr/local/sbin/filterdns -p /var/run/filterdns.pid -i 240 -c /var/etc/filterdns.conf -d 7
                        

                        or even

                        /usr/local/sbin/filterdns -p /var/run/filterdns.pid -i 240 -c /var/etc/filterdns.conf -d 7 -f
                        

                        "-d 7" will produce massive logging is the DNS log. Something might show up.
                        "-f" will keep it in the foreground, so keep your console access open for the time being. Ctrl-C will end it.

                        Try also chancing the interval "-i 240" (4 minutes) to "i -600" (every 10 minutes) to give it more time.

                        Btw : "filterdns" is a pretty simple FreeBSD package (program), you'll find it here : https://github.com/pfsense/FreeBSD-ports/blob/devel/net/filterdns/files/filterdns.c
                        It doesn't do much, and it depends on one important thing : DNS should be working.
                        Also, it injects modifications into pf tables.
                        Knowing that all spawned threads (as many as there are tables) are relaunched every "-i xxx" seconds at the same time, is it possible that "pf " gets "overrun" ?

                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                          Birke
                          last edited by

                          @jimp:

                          Do we have any reliable and predictable way to trigger this issue? Any specific alias contents that cause it? Is there a set interval at which the problem occurs? Is there some other event that causes it to fail?

                          Nope, no trigger (at least i haven't found one).
                          Nope, i changed my aliases earlier in this thread.
                          Nope, no specific interval on my system. Sometimes its some days, sometimes weeks.
                          Nope, i checked the other logfiles. I found no other action that was between last working and first not working filterdns.

                          I will increase the interval and debuglevel as Gertjan suggests. Maybe then we find some clues.

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                            Birke
                            last edited by

                            seems the entries in the alias are not the reason.
                            i put the exact fdqn, ips and networks into aliases with the same name on my pfsense at home (more than one month ago).
                            i had no problems at home but some here at work in that time.

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                              nrasmus
                              last edited by nrasmus

                              Just chiming in that we're experiencing this issue too. Tried the kill and restart in verbose mode, but the logs just contained the "clearing entry x from pf table z on host y" messages, and then nothing further. I've put a cron job in place to do this nightly, as it's effecting our ability for our web apps to send mail via Amazon SES.

                              For what it's worth, this happens to us about every 2 weeks, it seems, but I've been unable to dig up any correlation to anything.

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                                pfeil
                                last edited by

                                Will the bug finally be resolved with 2.4.4?

                                The bug report is open for 8 months now. Although wie tried to mitigate the problems when it occured for the first time for us in November, we still had problems every time filterdns stopped.

                                If you're affected from the bug the problems will in many cases be critical, as either access will be allowed when it should be blocked or if you're using a whitelist approach systems or services will break because of the connection problems.

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                                • luckman212L
                                  luckman212 LAYER 8
                                  last edited by luckman212

                                  Can anyone affected by this please try increasing their debuglevel for filterdns using this commit in System Patches?
                                  https://github.com/luckman212/pfsense/commit/72834bf677bdbd1cf78f6772b79abe4b3eaa8235

                                  After that you can follow the logs via console/ssh

                                  clog -f /var/log/resolver.log
                                  

                                  Related redmine: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/8758

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                                    hcww
                                    last edited by

                                    Dear All

                                    i am affected with same problem
                                    it happens every day approx.
                                    i must kill filterdns service and restart to make worked again
                                    i increased the debug level for filterdns
                                    and i attached the resolver log file
                                    best regards,
                                    0_1540362451825_resolver.txt

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                                    • M
                                      Muhammad Waqas
                                      last edited by

                                      Problem persists even in Pfsense 2.4.4

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                                      • GertjanG
                                        Gertjan
                                        last edited by Gertjan

                                        What problem ?
                                        Look carefully at the log that @hcww provided. Thousands of line all one the moment (Oct 23 23:15:21) because he was asking to resolve an URL that return many, many (no even more : more then 5000 entries at ones ) IP addresses.
                                        That will bring down a this task for sure. Probably the entire system.

                                        One might try to get an hold on every IP address that the big ones** use, but, looking at the log and you'll find out that that is not a good idea. Known subject btw.

                                        ** Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc

                                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                        • GrimsonG
                                          Grimson Banned @Muhammad Waqas
                                          last edited by

                                          @muhammad-waqas said in Filterdns stops working:

                                          Problem persists even in Pfsense 2.4.4

                                          Luckily it got resolved in 2.4.4p1, so update before you complain.

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                                            rgijsen @Grimson
                                            last edited by

                                            We're running 2.4.4-RELEASE-p2 (amd64), but the issue is still there for us. Over the last two weeks I've had two occurances of strange issues, people being unable to connect and such, and it turned out SOME of the aliasses weren't resolved. So far the only thing that helps is killing filterdns as people suggested.

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