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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      If your using forwarder then it should be forwarding…  It should forward to your isp dns or what it gets via its wan..  Or what you put in the settings.

      You sure its running.. Validate that pfsense can resolve using the dns lookup...

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      • kaysersosaK
        kaysersosa
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        DNS Lookup - see attached

        ipconfig /all  run on Client PC

        Ethernet adapter Ethernet:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : localdomain
          Description . . . . . . . . . . . : This Qualcomm Atheros network Controller connects you to the network.
          Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : MACv4
          DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
          Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
          Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::940d:1541:4e1a:fb26%13(Preferred)
          IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.7.13.100(Preferred)
          Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.128
          Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, May 7, 2018 2:31:05 PM
          Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, May 7, 2018 4:31:05 PM
          Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.7.13.1
          DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.7.13.1
          DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 62676980
          DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : MACv6
          DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.7.13.1
          NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

        ![dns lookup.jpg](/public/imported_attachments/1/dns lookup.jpg)
        ![dns lookup.jpg_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/dns lookup.jpg_thumb)

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by

          Ok dude loopback didn't respond… So yeah that is PROBLEM..

          Also 600+ms for google to answer?  Yeah that is a problem..

          Are you on some sort of sat connection or something?  I would not think it possible for 8.8.8.8 to take that long to respond from anywhere on the planet with it being a anycast address and located in regions all over the planet.

          Here I just did a query to google... 11ms

          ;; ANSWER SECTION:
          www.google.com.        213    IN      A      172.217.1.36

          ;; Query time: 11 msec
          ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
          ;; WHEN: Mon May 07 15:00:48 Central Daylight Time 2018
          ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 59

          If you are seeing over 100ms to 8.8.8.8 I would say something is wrong.  You are seeing 600+ms..

          I can ping China from Chicago and get less than 300ms.. ;)

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          • kaysersosaK
            kaysersosa
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            Yes, I was forced to use a satellite internet so I know response times suck.  First post in this thread has details on my ISP modem.

            Where to next?

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by

              Oh wow, not sure how I missed that ;)

              If your on SAT… your going to have to use their DNS... You are not going to be able to resolve or use other public dns... Use of the SAT isp dns is going to be your really only viable option..  Anything else is going to be horrible.

              And you sure can not resolve on such a high latency connection.

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              • kaysersosaK
                kaysersosa
                last edited by

                That would explain why my old pfSense configs wouldn't work, didn't have Sat internet for them.

                So what do I need to config on pfSense to get it working for Sat internet?

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                • kaysersosaK
                  kaysersosa
                  last edited by

                  So this is what I have done and internet appears to be working right now on the Client PC.

                  on pfSense
                  Under System/General Setup - I removed the DNS Servers and checked DNS Server Override.

                  Under Services/DNS Forwarder - checked enabled and saved/applied

                  Under Services/DNS Resolver - unchecked enabled and saved/applied

                  on Dashboard the DNS Servers listed are the 127.0.0.1, and the pair of 99's that come from the ISP modem.

                  Client PC is also getting everything sent to it, nothing is hard-set.

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    yeah pfsense will ask it self, which will get forwarded to those 99.x.x

                    Now do a dns lookup for google… on pfsense dns lookup What is the response time now.

                    Clients will ask pfsense..

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                    • kaysersosaK
                      kaysersosa
                      last edited by

                      127.0.0.1 is 589ms
                      99's are 6 & 4ms

                      Is there anything else I need to do other than setup pfSense how I want it?  Any settings I should look at avoiding.  All I really plan on do is to setup some firewall rules for some local servers and games and setup DHCP static mapping so all my systems have a specific IP every time.

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        127.0.0.1 should not be that long… It should just be the say 1ms longer than what the forwards answer in.

                        Your clients are talking to pfsense IP for dns.  What are the response times for lookups.

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                        • kaysersosaK
                          kaysersosa
                          last edited by

                          I think I may have typed www.google.com in wrong the last time.  Just noticed it and the 127.0.0.1 was still 600+ms, changed it and got responses below.

                          the DNS Lookup on pfSense for www.google.com comes back with…

                          127.0.0.1 - 4ms
                          99's are 6ms

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by

                            ok that makes more sense..

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                            • kaysersosaK
                              kaysersosa
                              last edited by

                              Here is another question, related but not exactly the same.  I can open another thread if need be.

                              I have a old wireless router setup as a wireless AP with DD-WRT connected to the same switch as the Client PC.  If I connect to the wifi coming out of it, I cannot access the internet.  Any thoughts?

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Can you ping the pfsense IP, are you getting dhcp from pfsense?

                                Common issue have seen when users try and use old routers as AP, is they forget to shut down the dhcpd on the old router and client gets info from that that points to AP IP as gateway and dns.  Which no would not work.

                                To use any old router as AP you connect it to your network using one its lan ports, you put its LAN ip on network you connecting it too and TURN OFF its dhcpd..

                                If you have done all that make sure you can ping the pfsense IP and getting dhcp from it.. If so dns resolving on the client?

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                                • kaysersosaK
                                  kaysersosa
                                  last edited by

                                  I'm doing some configuration on the pfSense router and changed the subnet.  I noticed that I hadn't changed it on the DD-WRT AP.  Made the change, just waiting for the old lease to close out.

                                  Used this to setup the DD-WRT AP.
                                  https://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Wireless_Access_Point

                                  I'll put up a post later today or tomorrow regarding the status.

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    What subnet you use on pfsense would really have ZERO to do with your AP..  Other than IP you set on its lan to access it..

                                    Not sure what your waiting for lease for?  the IP address on the AP should not be dhcp.. It should be static set on the LAN IP…

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                                    • kaysersosaK
                                      kaysersosa
                                      last edited by

                                      The laptop I was testing the wireless with was showing a /25 subnet, not the /24 it should be.

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                                      • kaysersosaK
                                        kaysersosa
                                        last edited by

                                        Another issue that is happening.  I can no longer navigate to www.google.com.  I can get to the internet.

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                                        • kaysersosaK
                                          kaysersosa
                                          last edited by

                                          I've moved the pfSense box into my network.  It is my router now.  Working on setting up the wireless AP which didn't have any other issues.

                                          The outstanding issuing I'm coming across now is I cannot get to www.google.com, any ideas?

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                                          • kaysersosaK
                                            kaysersosa
                                            last edited by

                                            Still configuring the pfSense router a bit.  Have the wireless AP working.

                                            My last hold out now is I cannot access www.google.com.  No idea why.

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