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    Need Help Configuring Limiters with Squid Proxy

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    • DerelictD
      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
      last edited by

      Floating Rule:
      1)  Action:  Match
      2)  Interface: WAN
      3)  Direction:  Any
      4)  Protocol:  Any
      5)  Source:  LAN segment that has Squid running on it, let's call it LAN1 net
      6)  Destination:  Any
      7)  Then under advanced set in/out pipe to the appropriate limiters/queues created under traffic shaping

      This won't work for two reasons:

      1. Connections to the internet come from squid itself and not anything on Source: LAN Net

      2. Even if the connections were sourced from LAN Net that would not match because NAT has almost certainly already translated the source address of the connection in the outbound direction at the stage that rule is evaluated.

      You might be able to mark specific squid traffic with a QoS marker then match that in the floating rule for putting in the correct pipe/queue:

      https://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/QualityOfService

      A limiter should be configurable to work for uploads and downloads. Other than that, squid itself would have to limit the download speeds, if that is even possible. Looks like delay pools might do it if they're available.

      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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        tman222
        last edited by

        @Derelict:

        Floating Rule:
        1)  Action:  Match
        2)  Interface: WAN
        3)  Direction:  Any
        4)  Protocol:  Any
        5)  Source:  LAN segment that has Squid running on it, let's call it LAN1 net
        6)  Destination:  Any
        7)  Then under advanced set in/out pipe to the appropriate limiters/queues created under traffic shaping

        This won't work for two reasons:

        1. Connections to the internet come from squid itself and not anything on Source: LAN Net

        2. Even if the connections were sourced from LAN Net that would not match because NAT has almost certainly already translated the source address of the connection in the outbound direction at the stage that rule is evaluated.

        You might be able to mark specific squid traffic with a QoS marker then match that in the floating rule for putting in the correct pipe/queue:

        https://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/QualityOfService

        A limiter should be configurable to work for uploads and downloads. Other than that, squid itself would have to limit the download speeds, if that is even possible. Looks like delay pools might do it if they're available.

        Thanks for the response - I really appreciate it.

        I did a bit more research on the issue - would setting up Delay Pools in Squid also accomplish what a limiter would do (i.e. limiting total bandwidth of the proxy):

        https://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/DelayPools
        https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=74595.0

        Thanks again.

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        • DerelictD
          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
          last edited by

          Sorry. Don't know. You'll need to ask in the squid forum.

          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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            tman222
            last edited by

            @Derelict:

            Sorry. Don't know. You'll need to ask in the squid forum.

            I'll go ahead and do that - thanks again for your help.  I did try out delay pools with Squid, but unfortunately I was only able to limit download bandwidth.  Back to the drawing board….

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by

              Yeah. upload bandwidth should be able to be limited by marking and matching as explained above.

              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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              • perikoP
                periko
                last edited by

                Until now, Traffic Shape/Limiters doesn't work with squid in the same box right?

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                  matt_
                  last edited by

                  I think if you use limiters with floating rules matching on the WAN state creation (out direction) it will limit Squid.  Someone can correct me if I'm totally wrong…

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                    magokbas
                    last edited by

                    manual proxy redirect
                    maybe it might work
                    https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=147247.0

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                    • perikoP
                      periko
                      last edited by

                      Need to test again… :)

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                        tman222
                        last edited by

                        Thanks guys for this additional info.  I"d be curious to see if the manual redirect method might work.

                        Hi Matt - if I was to use a floating rule on the WAN interface, what would I use for the source of the traffic?

                        Thanks again.

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