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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Waqar.UK
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      @waqar-uk

      So you use those tplink switches with vlans? If not then sure they are fine - the problem with the tplink 105e and 108e versions is they do not actually do vlans correctly. They do not allow removal of vlan 1 from ports you want to put into a different vlan. So every interface is in vlan 1 be it you put in in a new vlan 10 or not.

      So its not any better than a dumb switch running multiple layer 3 on.

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      • JKnottJ
        JKnott
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        @waqar-uk said in General Questions from a Noob:

        I use TP link switches across my house as well as my cousins. No problems so far.

        As johnpoz says, some TP-Link switches don't handle VLANs properly. I also have the same issue with my TP-Link AP. However, other than that, it works well.

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          Waqar.UK @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz said in General Questions from a Noob:

          @waqar-uk

          So you use those tplink switches with vlans? If not then sure they are fine - the problem with the tplink 105e and 108e versions is they do not actually do vlans correctly. They do not allow removal of vlan 1 from ports you want to put into a different vlan. So every interface is in vlan 1 be it you put in in a new vlan 10 or not.

          So its not any better than a dumb switch running multiple layer 3 on.

          I don't use VLANS, but I use them as 'dumb' switches that work fine for me.

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Waqar.UK
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            @waqar-uk

            Yeah they are fine for dumb - but why would you have purchased a smart if all you wanted wanted/needed was dumb. Was your future plan to use them as vlans? If so the v2 version has not gotten a firmware update while the v3 models seems to have a firmware update out that is suppose to fix their mishandling of vlans.

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            • JKnottJ
              JKnott @Waqar.UK
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              @waqar-uk said in General Questions from a Noob:

              I don’t use VLANS, but I use them as ‘dumb’ switches that work fine for me.

              One thing you can do with managed switches is port mirroring. This allows you to use a separate computer, running Wireshark, to monitor the traffic. I have one of those VLAN challenged TP-Link switches, but it works fine in the port mirroring role. I carry it in my computer bag, so I can use it when necessary to monitor an Ethernet connection.

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                Yeah it would work for that because its like a hub ;) heheh with everything in vlan 1 ROFL hehehe So all broadcast/multicast is going to every port anyway. Your mirror just going to add the unicast traffic so it doesn't have to do much hehehehe

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                • JKnottJ
                  JKnott @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz said in General Questions from a Noob:

                  Yeah it would work for that because its like a hub ;) heheh with everything in vlan 1 ROFL hehehe So all broadcast/multicast is going to every port anyway. Your mirror just going to add the unicast traffic so it doesn't have to do much hehehehe

                  You set it up so that one port monitors another. I have mine configured so port 1 monitors port 2. I plug the computer running Wireshark into port 1 and pass the connection through port 2 and any other port. It does not turn a switch into a hub. The non mirror ports continue to work as a regular switch.

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                    Dude I know what a span port is ;) I was freaking joking..

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                    • JKnottJ
                      JKnott @johnpoz
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                      @johnpoz said in General Questions from a Noob:

                      Dude I know what a span port is ;) I was freaking joking..

                      Some less knowledgeable may not know that.

                      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
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                        Waqar.UK @johnpoz
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                        @johnpoz said in General Questions from a Noob:

                        @waqar-uk

                        Yeah they are fine for dumb - but why would you have purchased a smart if all you wanted wanted/needed was dumb. Was your future plan to use them as vlans? If so the v2 version has not gotten a firmware update while the v3 models seems to have a firmware update out that is suppose to fix their mishandling of vlans.

                        I just bough a TP link 8 port switch to use as a way to pass my Pfsense LAN to many of my devices, be they a wireless AP, power line networking and my main desktop direct Ethernet connection.

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                        • JKnottJ
                          JKnott @Waqar.UK
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                          @waqar-uk said in General Questions from a Noob:

                          @johnpoz said in General Questions from a Noob:

                          @waqar-uk

                          Yeah they are fine for dumb - but why would you have purchased a smart if all you wanted wanted/needed was dumb. Was your future plan to use them as vlans? If so the v2 version has not gotten a firmware update while the v3 models seems to have a firmware update out that is suppose to fix their mishandling of vlans.

                          I just bough a TP link 8 port switch to use as a way to pass my Pfsense LAN to many of my devices, be they a wireless AP, power line networking and my main desktop direct Ethernet connection.

                          They're OK as a regular switch or even for port mirroring. However, you can forget about using them for VLANs.

                          PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                          i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                          UniFi AC-Lite access point

                          I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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