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    new pfSense install - immediate and numerous DoD (department of defense) "queries"? 255.255.255.255:68

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    • X
      xanadu
      last edited by

      This is my first post and first pfSense install

      -fresh install of pfSense 2.4.3-RELEASE-p1
      -bare metal (not virtualized)
      -default firewall rules PLUS
      -added rule for block all WAN traffic, ip4 and ip6, all protocols, all sources
      -added rule to allow all LAN traffic, ip4 and ip6, all protocols, all sources
      -IP PASSTHROUGH from ISP router and separate public IP from the rest of the network
      -only 1 machine serviced through the pfSense box (for testing)

      From the time I first booted and started watching the firewall logs, I noticed I'm getting hit with traffic from all over, on various ports. I assume this has always been happening, due to botnets scanning thousands of IP addresses for open port, but the one that caught my eye was this.

      Jun 10 16:31:19 WAN 11.0.160.1:67 255.255.255.255:68 UDP
      Jun 10 16:31:11 WAN 11.0.160.1:67 255.255.255.255:68 UDP
      Jun 10 16:31:07 WAN 11.0.160.1:67 255.255.255.255:68 UDP

      This shows the source and destination and the protocol. This is a blocked log entry in the firewall logs.

      11.0.160.1 resolves to US DoD Network Information center in Columbus Ohio.

      Umm..What?

      This also Irks me because theres a Harvey Birdman episode called "blackwatch plaid" that predicts this .. except its cellular conversations and the monitoring station is in Iowa.

      But alas ... WTF?

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      • pttP
        ptt Rebel Alliance
        last edited by

        Draw how you have everything connected (Network Diagram)

        Post screenshot of your FW Rules (WAN/LAN)

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          xanadu
          last edited by xanadu

          Internet coax -> ISP Modem/router -> IP PASSTHROUGH enabled for specific Ethernet port running to pfSense box (by pass internal routing) -> pfSence hardware (1u server) 2 seperate nics (one in one out) -> switch -> computer (only one on this switch)

          0_1528668343397_WAN.jpg

          0_1528668354533_LAN.jpg

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          • NogBadTheBadN
            NogBadTheBad
            last edited by

            That’s DHCP!

            Andy

            1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by

              @xanadu said in new pfSense install - immediate and numerous DoD (department of defense) "queries"? 255.255.255.255:68:

              -added rule for block all WAN traffic, ip4 and ip6, all protocols, all sources

              Pointless - where did you add this.. Since out of the box all inbound traffic to the wan is blocked.

              -added rule to allow all LAN traffic, ip4 and ip6, all protocols, all sources

              Again pointless since out of the box lan rules are any any..

              To your 11.x.x.x source for dhcp.. What is the wan of your pfsense actually connected too? Who is your ISP? Also what is this??

              -IP PASSTHROUGH from ISP router and separate public IP from the rest of the network

              As asked please post your rules... Out of the box you install pfsense and it will work.. There is no need for these rules you have added.

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                xanadu
                last edited by

                Firewall -> Rules -> Add
                Block all sources

                Watched countless videos for initial setup that suggested to manually add a "block all" rule to WAN as a general rule of thumb.

                Same process but for LAN traffic and "Pass" all traffic for the rule.

                WAN of pfSence is connected to my cable modem-router. You don't need my ISP.

                Ip Passthrough is how the modem-router bypassess the internal networking and provides a 2nd public ip to whatever device is connected to whatever ethernet port (eth port 2 as it is). So my pfSence box has an unmanaged external IP from my ISPS modem.

                Rules were posted in my previous post.

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                  xanadu @NogBadTheBad
                  last edited by

                  @nogbadthebad I know its DHCP but why from the DoD?

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                  • NogBadTheBadN
                    NogBadTheBad
                    last edited by

                    Talk to your ISP and ask them, the destination is a broadcast address.

                    Andy

                    1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                    • pttP
                      ptt Rebel Alliance
                      last edited by

                      Not necessarily "is from DoD"

                      maybe your "ISP" is (mistakenly) using that network segment in "his" network

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        You would be surprised how often that happens to be honest... Company says oh we never need to go to xyz network.. We will just use it internally.

                        Also could just be some idiot user of the isp on the same layer 2 as you causing it.. Clearly its not a valid IP unless your ISP is the dod ;)

                        Do a packet capture on your wan, and load it into wireshark and you can see some more details and what the MAC address is of who is sending it.. Can tell from that what brand of device.

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                          xanadu
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                            xanadu
                            last edited by

                            ok ive captured some packets and opened them in wireshark
                            anything i should be looking for ?

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                              xanadu
                              last edited by

                              In the packet capture i notice Mac addresses with Arris and Cadant. Arris aquiried Cadant in like 2001 and they make cable modems and cable set top boxes.

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                              • pttP
                                ptt Rebel Alliance
                                last edited by

                                http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25679029-Why-is-my-first-hop-to-a-DoD-assigned-IP-address

                                http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r31748514-Connectivity-Why-is-comcast-xfinity-hosting-VoIP-servers-on-DOD-network

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  You have a cable modem I would take it... Yes arris and Cadant same and cable modem maker.

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                                    xanadu @johnpoz
                                    last edited by xanadu

                                    @johnpoz I dont have an Arris or a Cadant but yes I have a cable modem.

                                    So take off my tinfoil hat then ?

                                    My ISP basically said GTFO and won't even look into the DoD requests.

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      And what is your cable modem brand.. The nic is made arris/cadant ;)

                                      Your tinfoil hat should never had been on - there is a shit ton of noise on the net.. Figuring out what it is the interesting fun stuff..

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                                      • DerelictD
                                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                        last edited by Derelict

                                        You cannot control what arrives on your WAN. That's why we run firewalls. All you can do is pass what you want and block the rest.

                                        If you want to know why DHCP traffic from that address is out there you'll have to talk to your ISP.

                                        pfSense is deny all traffic by default. If you put default deny rules in manually, expect to have to do things like manually pass IPsec too.

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                                          xanadu
                                          last edited by

                                          Ok I feel better. Thanks for putting my head on straight.

                                          A question though. With all wan traffic blocked... why do services like teamviewer still work ?

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            because teamview creates a tunnel to their servers..

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