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    TheNarc @mikekoke
    last edited by Jun 20, 2018, 8:27 PM

    @mikekoke From what I can tell, you should have everything configured the way you want it. However, I don't have an answer for why 8.8.8.8 is being used if you don't have it configured anywhere. It inspired me to check the states on one of my own pfSense machines and I saw multiple DNS queries to both 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 coming from a Roku on my network. It could be that you have one or more devices on your LAN that override any DNS servers they are assigned with Google's. I'm not super familiar with the notations used in the display of states, but based on what you pasted, I would guess that the request to 8.8.8.8 is being redirected to 127.0.0.1, per your NAT port forward, and subsequently sent out via the DNS server you specified (8.8.8.4).

    I did notice, though, that (8.8.8.8.83) makes no sense to me. Did you paste that directly, or could this be a typo? I would expect that to be (8.8.8.8:53).

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      lohphat @TheNarc
      last edited by Jun 20, 2018, 8:39 PM

      @thenarc I have DNS restricted on my network to only allow the gateway (which DHCP specifies) and I still see 8.8.8.8 requests from my google home device (not surprising).

      Many IoT devices have their DNS settings hard-wired.

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        mikekoke @TheNarc
        last edited by Jun 20, 2018, 8:45 PM

        @thenarc said in DNS setting and redirection:

        @mikekoke From what I can tell, you should have everything configured the way you want it. However, I don't have an answer for why 8.8.8.8 is being used if you don't have it configured anywhere. It inspired me to check the states on one of my own pfSense machines and I saw multiple DNS queries to both 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 coming from a Roku on my network. It could be that you have one or more devices on your LAN that override any DNS servers they are assigned with Google's. I'm not super familiar with the notations used in the display of states, but based on what you pasted, I would guess that the request to 8.8.8.8 is being redirected to 127.0.0.1, per your NAT port forward, and subsequently sent out via the DNS server you specified (8.8.8.4).

        I did notice, though, that (8.8.8.8.83) makes no sense to me. Did you paste that directly, or could this be a typo? I would expect that to be (8.8.8.8:53).

        Sorry i was wrong to write, it was (8.8.8.8.83).
        However, if I understand correctly the DNS requests are all redirected to 8.8.4.4 right?

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          TheNarc @mikekoke
          last edited by Jun 20, 2018, 8:47 PM

          @mikekoke From what you pasted, I believe so. Is that your expectation? Is 8.8.4.4 the only DNS server that you specified in General Settings?

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            mikekoke @TheNarc
            last edited by Jun 20, 2018, 9:03 PM

            @thenarc said in DNS setting and redirection:

            @mikekoke From what you pasted, I believe so. Is that your expectation? Is 8.8.4.4 the only DNS server that you specified in General Settings?

            The target is to direct all the dns requests to pfsense in order to filter the url through pfblockerng and squid proxy and finally send the requests to the set dns
            As dns I configured 8.8.4.4 (this is because 8.8.8.8 is not responding and from the LAN I can not ping it) and then 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1

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              mikekoke @lohphat
              last edited by mikekoke Jun 20, 2018, 9:07 PM Jun 20, 2018, 9:06 PM

              @lohphat said in DNS setting and redirection:

              @thenarc I have DNS restricted on my network to only allow the gateway (which DHCP specifies) and I still see 8.8.8.8 requests from my google home device (not surprising).

              Many IoT devices have their DNS settings hard-wired.

              All devices are configured to receive DNS from the router's DHCP

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                TheNarc @mikekoke
                last edited by Jun 20, 2018, 9:21 PM

                @mikekoke So it sounds like things are working as you would expect then? I don't see any further issue.

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                  mikekoke @TheNarc
                  last edited by Jun 20, 2018, 9:27 PM

                  @thenarc said in DNS setting and redirection:

                  @mikekoke So it sounds like things are working as you would expect then? I don't see any further issue.

                  Yes, but it is strange that the dns 8.8.8.8 is used and that the LAN can not ping the same dns

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                    TheNarc @mikekoke
                    last edited by Jun 20, 2018, 9:50 PM

                    @mikekoke I don't think that 8.8.8.8 is being used. The output you provided looked to me as if some device on your network is trying to use 8.8.8.8, but the port forwarding rule you made is redirecting 8.8.8.8 to 127.0.0.1, and ultimately the request is being made to 8.8.4.4. I don't know why you'd be able to ping 8.8.4.4 and not 8.8.8.8 though.

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                      mikekoke @TheNarc
                      last edited by Jun 20, 2018, 10:14 PM

                      @thenarc said in DNS setting and redirection:

                      @mikekoke I don't think that 8.8.8.8 is being used. The output you provided looked to me as if some device on your network is trying to use 8.8.8.8, but the port forwarding rule you made is redirecting 8.8.8.8 to 127.0.0.1, and ultimately the request is being made to 8.8.4.4. I don't know why you'd be able to ping 8.8.4.4 and not 8.8.8.8 though.

                      I found a device with the dns setting on 8.8.8.8, when I removed the setting even the states related to that dns were removed.

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                        TheNarc @mikekoke
                        last edited by Jun 21, 2018, 2:29 AM

                        @mikekoke Well if a device is set to use 8.8.8.8 as a DNS server, you're going to see that in the states. But just seeing it in the states doesn't mean that pfSense is allowing it to use 8.8.8.8. It's saying "This client asked to do a DNS query to 8.8.8.8, but I'm redirecting that query to 127.0.0.1 since you told me to." And from there, unbound (the DNS resolver) takes over and forwards it to 8.8.4.4 since you configured it for forwarding mode.

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                          mikekoke @TheNarc
                          last edited by Jun 21, 2018, 11:37 AM

                          @thenarc said in DNS setting and redirection:

                          @mikekoke Well if a device is set to use 8.8.8.8 as a DNS server, you're going to see that in the states. But just seeing it in the states doesn't mean that pfSense is allowing it to use 8.8.8.8. It's saying "This client asked to do a DNS query to 8.8.8.8, but I'm redirecting that query to 127.0.0.1 since you told me to." And from there, unbound (the DNS resolver) takes over and forwards it to 8.8.4.4 since you configured it for forwarding mode.

                          Thanks again for the clarification is just that I use Pfsense still recently and with some things I still have problems.

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