Making the new forum usable?
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@France : when you are "looking" at your Phone while driving : 135 € and 3 point deducted.
Everybody starts with 12 points. When you reached zero points, the driver license is destroyed.
If you have no other fines during 2 years, the 3 points are restored.Btw : about 750 000 people drive without a license because they reached "zero" points (so they aren't assured neither). You have to go to a school, take the 20 lessons at least, redo your 'theory' etc etc (costs more then 1200 €, take some months).
Sorry for the going away from the subject.
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Yeah it happens.. This thread was over anyway ;)
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I visit a lot less now because of the forum layout. If I had been a new user of pfSense who needed serious help, I would be turned off from the product. It's not just a matter of being different from the former pfSense forum software, but pretty much every other forum most people visit. It's seriously a distraction and hindrance to your good name.
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Just from a constructivism point of view, the new forum layout is terrible. Clearly a major regression over the old forum. Also the "We collect your private info and process it" warnings are concerning.
What is "we collect"? Anyways, seems its "trendy" these days to collect everything and store and process useless data. Hard drive manufacturers must be laughing their ***** off.....
Just my 2 cents
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Nah!
Another vendor too switched to this "thing". I don't know what it is, but it's nothing like a forum software. I am too confused and lost and i won't get used to it. It's a pity to see going down so many out there recently...
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@pftdm007 said in Making the new forum usable?:
Just from a constructivism point of view, the new forum layout is terrible. Clearly a major regression over the old forum. Also the "We collect your private info and process it" warnings are concerning.
What is "we collect"? Anyways, seems its "trendy" these days to collect everything and store and process useless data. Hard drive manufacturers must be laughing their ***** off.....
It's a legal disclaimer. The only data being "collected" is what you supply: your username, other info in your profile, the posts you make, etc. Only things necessary to run the forum (plus whatever extra optional things people put in their profile). Thanks to the GDPR, even when there is nothing unusual going on, a company still has to disclose that information is being "collected" when it can be used to identify a person in some way. Nothing is being sold or run through a third party. Logs are only kept for 30 days or less, too, so it's not like things are piling up, other than the forum content, which is sort of the point.
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@max93 said in Making the new forum usable?:
but it’s nothing like a forum software
And would you be so kind to point out how its not like a forum? People create posts/threads in sections related to a specific topic for the exchange of information.
How is that not a forum?
fo·rum
ˈfôrəm/
noun
noun: forum; plural noun: forums; plural noun: fora1. a place, meeting, or medium where ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged.Your post by its every nature shows that this s a forum ;)
If you want an example of how NOT to run a forum check out the dropbox idea of a "forum" ;)
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@jimp said in Making the new forum usable?:
@pftdm007 said in Making the new forum usable?:
Just from a constructivism point of view, the new forum layout is terrible. Clearly a major regression over the old forum. Also the "We collect your private info and process it" warnings are concerning.
What is "we collect"? Anyways, seems its "trendy" these days to collect everything and store and process useless data. Hard drive manufacturers must be laughing their ***** off.....
It's a legal disclaimer. The only data being "collected" is what you supply: your username, other info in your profile, the posts you make, etc. Only things necessary to run the forum (plus whatever extra optional things people put in their profile). Thanks to the GDPR, even when there is nothing unusual going on, a company still has to disclose that information is being "collected" when it can be used to identify a person in some way. Nothing is being sold or run through a third party. Logs are only kept for 30 days or less, too, so it's not like things are piling up, other than the forum content, which is sort of the point.
Nice clear explanation, thanks for clarifying. So I understand not much has changed from 10 years ago in terms of data collection...
As for the new forumn layout, there will be a "getting used to" learning curve for sure but other than that, its not easier to use than before. For example yesterday I posted a new thread, and realized I had forgot relevant information. I searched for the "Edit" button for quite some time, and even searched for "Edit forum posts" forum wide, only to accidentally click on the three little dots on the lower right corner of the post, and find "Edit", "Delete" & "Bookmark". They looked like a single gray vertical bar on my display (probably due to low DPI count). Its just not intuitive. We've seen buttons at the same places for decades, now their functions are hiding behind some other function that is not standing out in the UI.
To me this is the most annoying part. Changing for the sake of changing. Things dont always get better, actually I found with software development, the best seems to be behind. This is true not only for this forum, but for anything else (iOS, Android, MS software (think of Windows 10), GNU stuff, websites, etc)....
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@johnpoz said in Making the new forum usable?:
How is that not a forum?
OK, let's be fair: I personally don't like it.
bye
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Then say that - vs going off on some rant that its not even a forum, etc.
