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    • NogBadTheBadN
      NogBadTheBad @occamsrazor
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      @occamsrazor

      Sorry was mid edit and the phone went :)

      Andy

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      • JKnottJ
        JKnott
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        @occamsrazor said in Firewall blocks, Pfblocker, multicast:

        Thanks. But still a little confused. So is the multicast traffic currently being blocked only multicast traffic that's trying to exit the WAN?

        Mulitcast has to specifically be configured for it to get through a router. This can be either manually or automatically, with multicast snooping/discovery. If you don't have either of those then those multicasts are notleaving your LAN.

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        • JKnottJ
          JKnott @NogBadTheBad
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          @nogbadthebad said in Firewall blocks, Pfblocker, multicast:

          Sorry was mid edit and the phone went :)

          That's OK, we didn't mind waiting. 😉

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          • BBcan177B
            BBcan177 Moderator
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            Better to view blocked events in the Alerts tab.

            Do you use Firehol level 1 feed? That feed contains bogons and should not be used for outbound blocking.

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            • occamsrazorO
              occamsrazor @JKnott
              last edited by occamsrazor

              @jknott said in Firewall blocks, Pfblocker, multicast:

              Mulitcast has to specifically be configured for it to get through a router. This can be either manually or automatically, with multicast snooping/discovery. If you don't have either of those then those multicasts are notleaving your LAN.

              So basically there is no need for lists in pfBlocker to be blocking it anyway? There's no need for me to be blocking it for security purposes, and it's not being blocked from reaching my LAN devices... its merely a logging issue.

              @bbcan177 said in Firewall blocks, Pfblocker, multicast:

              Better to view blocked events in the Alerts tab.

              Indeed, thanks. I've identified one list that was problematic, have now deleted that. But some of the blocks are showing "no match" as to where the block is coming from...

              0_1535725447107_alerts.jpg

              Do you use Firehol level 1 feed? That feed contains bogons and should not be used for outbound blocking.

              No... I made that mistake once already :-) Never again...

              I guess all this will be easier once I move over to the new version of your excellent blocker, but for now I think I have to wait until 2.4.4 stable is released as that's required for pfBlockerNG-devel right? Or can it safely be run on 2.4.3-RELEASE-p1?

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              • JKnottJ
                JKnott
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                @occamsrazor said in Firewall blocks, Pfblocker, multicast:

                So basically there is no need for lists in pfBlocker to be blocking it anyway? There's no need for me to be blocking it for security purposes, and it's not being blocked from reaching my LAN devices... its merely a logging issue.

                Correct. However, if you want to be sure, run Wireshark or Packet Capture on the WAN port. I doubt you'll see those multicasts.

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                • BBcan177B
                  BBcan177 Moderator @occamsrazor
                  last edited by BBcan177

                  @occamsrazor said in Firewall blocks, Pfblocker, multicast:

                  No... I made that mistake once already :-) Never again...
                  I guess all this will be easier once I move over to the new version of your excellent blocker, but for now I think I have to wait until 2.4.4 stable is released as that's required for pfBlockerNG-devel right? Or can it safely be run on 2.4.3-RELEASE-p1?

                  If you stay on 2.4.3, then you can goto pfBlockerNG-devel.

                  The issue people were having was when they were on 2.4.3, and the switched to the 2.4.4 devel branch and then went to pfBlockerNG-devel. This causes the PHPv7 to be installed in 2.4.3 which caused issues...

                  So for those who want to goto 2.4.4, they need to update pfSense first before installing pfBlockerNG-devel.

                  There is one of your feeds that contains a block on 224/3 which is not a good idea. The new devel has a Feeds management page with a list of Feeds from the original sources which should be better.

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                  • occamsrazorO
                    occamsrazor @BBcan177
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                    @bbcan177 said in Firewall blocks, Pfblocker, multicast:

                    If you stay on 2.4.3, then you can goto pfBlockerNG-devel.

                    The issue people were having was when they were on 2.4.3, and the switched to the 2.4.4 devel branch and then went to pfBlockerNG-devel. This causes the PHPv7 to be installed in 2.4.3 which caused issues...

                    So for those who want to goto 2.4.4, they need to update pfSense first before installing pfBlockerNG-devel.

                    Thanks, I was kind of following that issue but then lost track. So on 2.4.3-RELEASE-p1 I can just disable pfblockerNG in its settings (but keep it around in case of any issues) and install pfBlockerNG-devel? Or does pfblockerNG need to be uninstalled as a package first before installing the pfBlockerNG-devel package?

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                    • BBcan177B
                      BBcan177 Moderator @occamsrazor
                      last edited by BBcan177

                      @occamsrazor said in Firewall blocks, Pfblocker, multicast:

                      Thanks, I was kind of following that issue but then lost track. So on 2.4.3-RELEASE-p1 I can just disable pfblockerNG in its settings (but keep it around in case of any issues) and install pfBlockerNG-devel? Or does pfblockerNG need to be uninstalled as a package first before installing the pfBlockerNG-devel package?

                      First make sure that "Keep Settings" is enabled.
                      Disable pfBlockerNG and Save
                      Then Uninstall pfBlockerNG
                      Then install pfBlockerNG-devel
                      Re-enable pfBlockerNG-devel and run a: Force Reload - All

                      "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                      Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                      Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                      Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                      • occamsrazorO
                        occamsrazor @BBcan177
                        last edited by occamsrazor

                        @bbcan177 said in Firewall blocks, Pfblocker, multicast:

                        First make sure that "Keep Settings" is enabled.
                        Disable pfBlockerNG and Save
                        Then Uninstall pfBlockerNG
                        Then install pfBlockerNG-devel
                        Re-enable pfBlockerNG-devel and run a: Force Reload - All

                        Awesome, thanks a lot, will give it a try.....

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                        Ubiquiti Unifi wired and wireless network, APC UPSs
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