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    • RonpfSR
      RonpfS @occamsrazor
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      @occamsrazor That a page you get when you access a blocked domain name directly : http://js.agkn.com
      In case of an image URL you get a 1x1gif page, for a .js you get another page, etc

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      • occamsrazorO
        occamsrazor @RonpfS
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        @ronpfs said in DNSBL modify default bloked webpage:

        @occamsrazor That a page you get when you access a blocked domain name directly : http://js.agkn.com
        In case of an image URL you get a 1x1gif page, for a .js you get another page, etc

        When I ping that address it's clearly being blocked
        ping js.agkn.com
        PING js.agkn.com (10.10.10.1): 56 data bytes

        But when I try to access the example you gave http://js.agkn.com in a web browser no page ever loads, just a timeout.

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        • RonpfSR
          RonpfS @occamsrazor
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          @occamsrazor said in DNSBL modify default bloked webpage:

          But when I try to access the example you gave http://js.agkn.com in a web browser no page ever loads, just a timeout.

          Do you get something from http://10.10.10.1/

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          • occamsrazorO
            occamsrazor @RonpfS
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            @ronpfs said in DNSBL modify default bloked webpage:

            Do you get something from http://10.10.10.1/

            No, just a "Waiting for......" in the bottom of the browser screen and page never loads.

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            • RonpfSR
              RonpfS @occamsrazor
              last edited by

              @occamsrazor Under Firewall / NAT / Port Forward You should have NAT entries pointing to the VIP.

              Did you enable Permit Firewall Rules under Firewall / pfBlockerNG / DNSBL ? Do you see those Rules under Firewall / Rules

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              • occamsrazorO
                occamsrazor @RonpfS
                last edited by occamsrazor

                @ronpfs said in DNSBL modify default bloked webpage:

                @occamsrazor Under Firewall / NAT / Port Forward You should have NAT entries pointing to the VIP.

                Did you enable Permit Firewall Rules under Firewall / pfBlockerNG / DNSBL ? Do you see those Rules under Firewall / Rules

                That check box was not enabled. I've enabled it now, restarted router and client machine, and see the rules under Floating:

                0_1535783519446_Screen Shot 2018-09-01 at 09.30.00.jpg

                But still don't get any response from http://10.10.10.1/ or that domain you posted.

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                • occamsrazorO
                  occamsrazor
                  last edited by occamsrazor

                  Aha... I notice the pfB_DNSBL_Ports alias refers to ports 8081 and 8043 only. When I type http://10.10.10.1:8081/ in the browser I get a response:

                  0_1535783772175_Screen Shot 2018-09-01 at 09.35.48.jpg

                  But even if I manually add port 80 to the pfB_DNSBL_Ports alias it doesn't give me that page when going to http://10.10.10.1

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                  • RonpfSR
                    RonpfS @occamsrazor
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                    @occamsrazor The NAT should take care of redirecting port 80 and 443.

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                    • occamsrazorO
                      occamsrazor @RonpfS
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                      @ronpfs said in DNSBL modify default bloked webpage:

                      @occamsrazor The NAT should take care of redirecting port 80 and 443.

                      I see a corresponding port-forward in Firewall > NAT Port > Forward but it doesn't seem to be working:

                      0_1535788815551_Screen Shot 2018-09-01 at 10.57.46.jpg

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                      • BBcan177B
                        BBcan177 Moderator
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                        @occamsrazor

                        Make sure that your LAN devices DNS settings are only set to pfSense, and not any other DNS server or else that will bypass DNSBL.

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                        • occamsrazorO
                          occamsrazor @BBcan177
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                          @bbcan177 said in DNSBL modify default bloked webpage:

                          @occamsrazor

                          Make sure that your LAN devices DNS settings are only set to pfSense, and not any other DNS server or else that will bypass DNSBL.

                          They all use pfsense as DNS server (Resolver with forwarding) and I have rule to block DNS going elsewhere:

                          DHCP Server DNS settings:

                          0_1535865286907_DHCP server.jpg

                          Redirect any other DNS requests to pfSense

                          0_1535865320375_Port Forward.jpg

                          NAT settings

                          0_1535865368285_NAT settings.jpg

                          LAN Rules

                          0_1535865402314_Rules.jpg

                          The things is DNSBL IS working.... as bad domains are resolving to 10.10.10.1 in terms of DNS - it's just I am not getting the redirect webpage at 10.10.10.1

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                          • BBcan177B
                            BBcan177 Moderator @occamsrazor
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                            @occamsrazor said in DNSBL modify default bloked webpage:

                            The things is DNSBL IS working.... as bad domains are resolving to 10.10.10.1 in terms of DNS - it's just I am not getting the redirect webpage at 10.10.10.1

                            That blocked page only shows when the root domain is blocked. It won't show when it blocks an AD or a sub-domain.

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                            • occamsrazorO
                              occamsrazor @BBcan177
                              last edited by occamsrazor

                              @bbcan177 said in DNSBL modify default bloked webpage:

                              That blocked page only shows when the root domain is blocked. It won't show when it blocks an AD or a sub-domain.

                              If we take the example RonPfs gave above, if I do a ping I get this, which would indicate DNSBL is working:

                              BenMBPwifi:~ ben$ ping agkn.com
                              PING agkn.com (10.10.10.1): 56 data bytes
                              64 bytes from 10.10.10.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=44.806 ms
                              64 bytes from 10.10.10.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.503 ms

                              But when I go to http://agkn.com I just get a timeout. It's not a big deal as DNSBL is working, just strange I never, ever see that page. I should add I have TLD enabled, though I didn't before and also never saw that block page.

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                              • BBcan177B
                                BBcan177 Moderator @occamsrazor
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                                @occamsrazor said in DNSBL modify default bloked webpage:

                                But when I go to http://agkn.com I just get a timeout. It's not a big deal as DNSBL is working, just strange I never, ever see that page. I should add I have TLD enabled, though I didn't before and also never saw that block page.

                                Is that domain in a blacklist?

                                grep "agkn.com" /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/*

                                As a test, try to browse to "101com.com"

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                                • occamsrazorO
                                  occamsrazor @BBcan177
                                  last edited by occamsrazor

                                  @bbcan177 said in DNSBL modify default bloked webpage:

                                  Is that domain in a blacklist?

                                  Yes it is...

                                  Shell Output - grep "agkn.com" /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/*
                                  /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/EasyPrivacy.txt:local-data: "agkn.com 60 IN A 10.10.10.1"
                                  

                                  As a test, try to browse to "101com.com"

                                  Shell Output - grep "101com.com" /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/*
                                  /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/MVPS.txt:local-data: "wtrs.101com.com 60 IN A 10.10.10.1"
                                  

                                  Seems 101com.com isn't in my blocklists but wtrs.101com.com is.
                                  When I ping 101com.com I get a real IP, when I ping wtrs.101com.com I get 10.10.10.1
                                  When I browse to wtrs.101com.com I get a timeout, when I browse to 101com.com I get through to some server.

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                                  • BBcan177B
                                    BBcan177 Moderator @occamsrazor
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                                    @occamsrazor said in DNSBL modify default bloked webpage:

                                    @ronpfs said in DNSBL modify default bloked webpage:

                                    Do you get something from http://10.10.10.1/

                                    No, just a "Waiting for......" in the bottom of the browser screen and page never loads.

                                    Do you have VLANs? If so, please ensure that in the DNSBL tab, that you have selected the "DNSBL Permit" option, and select all of the VLANs in the dropdown selection box.

                                    Otherwise, try to disable the other two port forwards and see if one of those is causing a conflict?

                                    There shouldn't be any timeouts.

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                                      crusher4
                                      last edited by crusher4

                                      @BBcan177 in PFBlocker-devel is it possible to disable the DNSBL NAT rule and disable the lighthttpd? Before you used a NAT rule (and used floating rules/etc) I just had a simple reject rule if someone attempted to access the DNSBL lighthttpd via http/https, but using the current stable version, I cannot seem to find a way to reject (seems NAT is always evaluated first?)

                                      Thanks!

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                                      • BBcan177B
                                        BBcan177 Moderator @crusher4
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                                        @crusher4 said in DNSBL modify default bloked webpage:

                                        @BBcan177 in PFBlocker-devel is it possible to disable the DNSBL NAT rule and disable the lighthttpd? Before you used a NAT rule (and used floating rules/etc) I just had a simple reject rule if someone attempted to access the DNSBL lighthttpd via http/https, but using the current stable version, I cannot seem to find a way to reject (seems NAT is always evaluated first?)

                                        To fix that Cert error for HTTPS sites, create a new DNSBL Group and add the domains that are causing issue to the customlist at the bottom of the page. Then disable logging and set the Order to "Primary" which will cause this Group to load first.

                                        Follow that with a Force Reload DNSBL... That will null block those domains to 0.0.0.0 and avoid the cert errors.

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                                        • occamsrazorO
                                          occamsrazor @BBcan177
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                                          @bbcan177 said in DNSBL modify default bloked webpage:

                                          @occamsrazor said in DNSBL modify default bloked webpage:

                                          @ronpfs said in DNSBL modify default bloked webpage:

                                          Do you get something from http://10.10.10.1/

                                          No, just a "Waiting for......" in the bottom of the browser screen and page never loads.

                                          Do you have VLANs? If so, please ensure that in the DNSBL tab, that you have selected the "DNSBL Permit" option, and select all of the VLANs in the dropdown selection box.

                                          Otherwise, try to disable the other two port forwards and see if one of those is causing a conflict?

                                          There shouldn't be any timeouts.

                                          Thanks for the help. I don't run any VLANs but in any case tried with that Permit box checked. Also tried disabling the Port Forwards, still the same. At this stage I think I'm going to give up as it's not a huge deal and the blocking functionality is working properly, but still strange...

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                                            concord
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                                            Kind of glad I found this post since I thought I've been going crazy the past 2 weeks. I've install pfSense multiple times, rebooted multiple times, tried pfBlockerng and pfBlockerng-devel, multiple times. Watched about 10 youtube videos where they all go, click here, here and here, then bam! bada bing badda boom! Everything works.

                                            Well I still get timeouts for blocked pages which really slows down browsing for people. Or am I just not properly understanding pfBlocker? Maybe that's it.

                                            Running:
                                            pfSense 2.4.3-RELEASE-p1 (amd64) (And I've tried this on a VM as well)
                                            pfBlockerng-devel 2.2.5_11 (Tried with pfBlockerng 2.1.4_9 for a few days, then thought maybe the devel package is getting more love)

                                            I have the default LAN 192.168.1.1/24
                                            So I'm using the 10.10.10.1 VIP for DNSBL

                                            DNS resolver is running, no forwarding.

                                            If I nslookup 101com.com

                                            101com.com
                                            Server: pfSense.concord.home
                                            Address: 192.168.1.1
                                            Name: 101com.com
                                            Address: 10.10.10.1

                                            That works!

                                            If I browse to:
                                            http://10.10.10.1:8081 - works, get the "Page blocked by DNSBL"
                                            https://10.10.10.1:8443 - works, get the "Page blocked by DNSBL"
                                            http://192.168.1.1:8081 - works, get the "Page blocked by DNSBL"
                                            https://192.168.1.1:8443 - works, get the "Page blocked by DNSBL"

                                            but

                                            http://10.10.10.1 - times out with "This site can’t be reached"
                                            https://10.10.10.1 - times out with "This site can’t be reached"
                                            http://101com.com - "This site can’t be reached. 101com.com took too long to respond."

                                            On the firewall settings the VIP is there
                                            10.10.10.1/32 LAN IP Alias pfB DNSBL - DO NOT EDIT

                                            The 2 NAT port forward auto created rules are there (80 -> 8081, 443 -> 8443)
                                            I have no VLANs, only a WAN and LAN network and "default" pfSense install, no other port forward or blocking rule. Nothing! default

                                            So lighttpd_p is running on 8081 and 8443, but the problem is plain 10.10.10.1 (80 and 443) is not resolving but timing out. Which slows down browsing.
                                            I feel so dumb!! What am I doing wrong? Or am I expecting pfBlocker to work differently then it actually does and it's all in my head?

                                            Sorry I tagged on to this thread, but this is the closest to the symptoms I am getting.

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