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    Snowaks
    last edited by Sep 18, 2018, 6:20 PM

    Sorry about that Edited and Fixed I hope. I know I can make some walla of text and it sounds like I am a mad man. Yeah my spelling & Grammar are pretty bad Only have around a 8th grade spelling level Thanks to public school... when I concentrate.

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      xciter327
      last edited by Sep 18, 2018, 6:22 PM

      I've had this happen to me too. It was something between pfblocker and unbound. Try updating pfblocker to lates "development" version. I can vouch it works great. That interacts much better with unbound.

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        Snowaks
        last edited by Snowaks Sep 18, 2018, 6:58 PM Sep 18, 2018, 6:37 PM

        Well do thanks will update if it fix's it just did this Going to have to do a Power Button reset as it produced this error. Fatal error: Call to undefined function pfb_alerts_default_page() in /usr/local/www/pfblockerng/pfblockerng_general.php on line 96 PHP ERROR: Type: 1, File: /usr/local/www/pfblockerng/pfblockerng_general.php, Line: 96, Message: Call to undefined function pfb_alerts_default_page() And the Remote Client Is frozen.

        Crash report:
        Crash report begins. Anonymous machine information:
        amd64
        11.1-RELEASE-p10
        FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p10 #13 r313908+293707af843(RELENG_2_4): Thu May 10 15:09:24 CDT 2018 root@buildbot2.netgate.com:/builder/ce-243/tmp/obj/builder/ce-243/tmp/FreeBSD-src/sys/pfSense
        Crash report details:
        PHP Errors:
        [18-Sep-2018 13:41:28 America/Chicago] PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function pfb_alerts_default_page() in /usr/local/www/pfblockerng/pfblockerng_general.php on line 96
        No FreeBSD crash data found.

        Error after reboot but memory is at 10%.

        0_1537296839475_PHP_errors.log.gz

        other then the error it seems like this is the fix.

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          Snowaks
          last edited by Snowaks Sep 18, 2018, 8:38 PM Sep 18, 2018, 8:26 PM

          Well update after about 1h and siting around 38% memory used but will see to night when my power user's log on and start to hit the network hard.
          Still Having the crashing problem but it is not freezing the Remote UI like it was doing at the start of the PfblockerNG update.
          Also I had a question is it useful to run var as a ram disk? Or do you only see this being usefully in heavy network utilization environments?

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            A Former User @Snowaks
            last edited by Sep 18, 2018, 10:54 PM

            @snowaks You first post looks much better, thanks, I'm sorry I hope I didn't come across as rude.

            The only reason to run var as a RAM disk is if you're worried about disk writes on a SDCard or similar. If you're running this on a decent SSD/hard disk then I wouldn't bother doing it, keep the RAM for something useful.

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              Snowaks
              last edited by Sep 19, 2018, 3:24 PM

              ok update seem's to have level off at 80% witch is ok Will update after 2 day's.
              Still getting a Crash report but none of my system & network seem to not be affected.
              Remote UI still works, All packages are up and ruining I may have to do some tuning to
              get squid up and ruining. So I can see what amount of ram I will have left over to be used with squid.

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                xciter327
                last edited by Sep 19, 2018, 4:25 PM

                I think it's still broken. Under no condition should unbound use this much memory. Try running it with pfblocker disabled. If memory stays low, post an issues in the pfblocker section.

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                  BBcan177 Moderator
                  last edited by Sep 20, 2018, 2:37 AM

                  @snowaks said in 99% Memory Useage:

                  So where to start well I have been running Pfsense for about 8 years now. the Problem I Am running in to is after a reset I get to about 99% memory Usage
                  and the network become's unstable a restart or setting Ram dsik fix's this. I can set up a Ram Disk but it gets used up. If i set up a ram disk does not use all my memory. This was a fresh install then backup applied . What happend was I did a hardware swap and then had a bad disk.
                  The hardware I came from was a Dell 2900v3 2x Xeon 4 cores Also due to to much power usage.
                  That's when this Problem start the old system did have 58Gb ECC of Ram.

                  Check out the following reddit thread and see if that helps:
                  https://www.reddit.com/r/PFSENSE/comments/9g9csi/pfblockerngdevel_high_cpu_usage/

                  Also try running the following top command:

                  top -aSH
                  

                  "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                  Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                  Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                  Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                    Snowaks
                    last edited by Snowaks Sep 20, 2018, 4:51 PM Sep 20, 2018, 4:30 PM

                    Should I Do a restart after disable of Pf blocker ? Will take a look at the reddit post thanks guys!
                    Do you think the Cpu problem is just like the Ram one ? Hey I will try any thing with in reason.
                    My best fix yet is to set var/ to as a ram disk and it does not allow it to go over the set parameter.
                    Will Disable and update my post It takes around 2-3 day's to for the memory to hit 99%.
                    I change Cron to 4h set logging on unbound to level 3 as it was on level 2.

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                    unbound-control -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf status (Edit2)
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                      Snowaks
                      last edited by Sep 21, 2018, 11:24 AM

                      PFblockerNG Off for 1 day still showing 90% Plus
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                        Snowaks
                        last edited by Sep 21, 2018, 2:05 PM

                        @bbcan177 said in 99% Memory Useage:

                        top -aSH

                        0_1537538691062_Pf11.png
                        I mist your command as it was in black.

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                          xciter327
                          last edited by xciter327 Sep 21, 2018, 6:10 PM Sep 21, 2018, 6:10 PM

                          Are Your sure it's not Surricata eating all the RAM?

                          P.S. - You could install htop with "pkg install htop". Might need a reboot to work(for me at least). There you can check in real time what's going on.

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                            BBcan177 Moderator
                            last edited by Sep 22, 2018, 2:40 AM

                            @xciter327 said in 99% Memory Useage:

                            Are Your sure it's not Surricata eating all the RAM?

                            Yes its definately Suricata .. you can see several PIDs for the same interface...

                            If you are using the package "Service Watchguard", do not add Snort/Suricata as it will try to restart the package when cron is updating the rules leading to phantom processes.

                            "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                            Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                            Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                            Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                              Snowaks
                              last edited by Snowaks Sep 22, 2018, 3:07 PM Sep 22, 2018, 2:27 PM

                              @bbcan177 @xciter327

                              I have used it in the past have not reinstalled it. Do to the memory problem and read some where about cron and problems with it
                              I can disable Suricata and will still get 99% I mean I may Be mistaken and end up with my foot in my mouth.
                              I will also do a reboot to clear the used Ram as this is the only way I have found to get it to back to normal.
                              If so I think it would be a good idea to add in a memory setting in general to only control the packages amount of Max used Ram?
                              I will Disable Suricata and add screen shots.

                              PS Is there a way to set per a package max used Ram in tunables?

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                                Snowaks
                                last edited by Sep 22, 2018, 2:39 PM

                                @snowaks said in 99% Memory Useage:

                                top -aSH

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                                  xciter327
                                  last edited by Sep 22, 2018, 5:27 PM

                                  With Suricata disabled, do a reboot to make sure it's all clean.

                                  P.S. - this is not related, but why run both unbound and dns forwarder?

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                                    Snowaks
                                    last edited by Sep 23, 2018, 4:52 PM

                                    I was Under the understanding that Unbound was for internal traffic Lan and forward was for Wan side incoming.
                                    I had some problems get stuff to see some stuff from the outside the network
                                    Did not matter what firewall rule/port forwarding I added. I read some where that you should enable
                                    forwarder I did and the traffic worked. So I prayed to the Pfsense gods and walked a way with it up and happy. 💊
                                    Plex was the problem Program.

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                                      MoonKnight @Snowaks
                                      last edited by Sep 23, 2018, 6:52 PM

                                      @snowaks said in 99% Memory Useage:

                                      I was Under the understanding that Unbound was for internal traffic Lan and forward was for Wan side incoming.
                                      I had some problems get stuff to see some stuff from the outside the network
                                      Did not matter what firewall rule/port forwarding I added. I read some where that you should enable
                                      forwarder I did and the traffic worked. So I prayed to the Pfsense gods and walked a way with it up and happy. 💊
                                      Plex was the problem Program.

                                      Hi,

                                      Have you tried a clean install, without using your backup config?
                                      Then just change your settings manually and add one package at the time.

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                                      Kingston DDR4 2666MHz 16GB ECC
                                      2 x HyperX Fury SSD 120GB (ZFS-mirror)
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                                      4 x Intel i350 (ports)

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                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by Sep 23, 2018, 10:32 PM

                                        Mmm, something is very wrong there. Try this. Run top -aSH at the command line, so probably via SSH.

                                        Then when it's running hit o to change the sort order and then type size to sort by size. Hit q to quit. Copy paste that here.

                                        Steve

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                                          Snowaks
                                          last edited by Snowaks Sep 24, 2018, 9:42 PM Sep 24, 2018, 9:41 PM

                                          Yes Cisco I have did not change. I've some how fixed the problem I have suricata on even higher setting.
                                          Then I had be for when they where stock. Ive also install Squid proxy. like 12 more Pf blockers Lists so thing On pfsense side cause a memory leak.
                                          I've been stable at 10-20% memory now With Lan/Wan with Suricata on high, Max pending packets on 10k.
                                          Also Set Pattern Matcher Algorithm off auto to hyper scan. I did this to try and see if it Suricata Or to see if I
                                          could get what was happening in 2-3day to happen in 1. Pf blocker was change to Dlev.

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