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    Updating to 2.4.4 version is safe now?

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    • H
      hbauer
      last edited by

      I guess nobody will be able to confirm this. You will probably have to try it yourself.

      I myself had errors and can tell you that there is quite a safe backup plan

      • prepare a boot medium for your current version
      • create a backup for your configuration
      • remove all additional packages
      • run the update
      • if successful reinstall packages
      • if unsuccessful reinstall current version and restore backup.

      I can confirm that the fallback was working for me.

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      • GrimsonG
        Grimson Banned
        last edited by Grimson

        Better yet, replicate your setup in a VM and try it there. Some of the above packages will no longer install with 2.4.3p1 as they require PHP 7.2. Or make a ZFS snapshot first, if pfSense is installed with ZFS.

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          abdo22
          last edited by abdo22

          in my experience no
          for one reason
          after updating
          ICAP Inteface for Squid and ClamAV integration
          can not start
          and i have no idea what should i do
          my advice is to wait

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          • GrimsonG
            Grimson Banned @abdo22
            last edited by

            @abdo22 said in Updating to 2.4.4 version is safe now?:

            and i have no idea what should i do

            How about checking redmine instead of sitting around:
            https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/8832
            https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/8975

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              abdo22 @Grimson
              last edited by

              @grimson
              Thanks a lot
              I am still beginner really
              Not experienced

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by

                The problem I have noticed is people updating packages that mess with php without updating pfsense first.

                You should update pfsense before you update packages after a new version is released - because more likely then not the packages have been updated to work with the new version of pfsense, and may not work with old version.

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                • emammadovE
                  emammadov
                  last edited by

                  Thanks for your replies. There are updates for packages right now. I have to first update pfsense, after update has been finished, then I have to update packages, right?

                  Elvin

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    Yes is what I would do ;) But make sure you read through the release notes on any upgrade info.. And as always good practice with any time you update something to new version - especially when base OS is changing and something as major as big change in the PHP base..

                    But pfsense should update the packages after it updates on its own.

                    Have a backup of your config, and have a backup of the install media. So if worse case happens only take minutes to get back up and running.

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                    • jimpJ
                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                      last edited by

                      It was always safe if you follow best practices.

                      Read the Upgrade Guide completely and thoroughly.

                      Read the Release Announcement and Release Notes as well.

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                        abdo22 @Grimson
                        last edited by abdo22

                        @grimson said in Updating to 2.4.4 version is safe now?:

                        https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/8832

                        i followed the instructions in the link
                        it is working
                        thanks a lot man
                        but i do not understand what is ( chmod -w )
                        something is missing for me
                        i used this command instead
                        chflags schg /usr/local/etc/c-icap/c-icap.conf

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                        • emammadovE
                          emammadov
                          last edited by

                          Is this way safe, backup current configuration, install fresh 2.4.4 and restore that configuration to new 2.4.4? I have backedup all. I want to know, after restoration has been done, everything including previously installed packages, openvpn users and etc. will be restored?

                          Elvin

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                          • jimpJ
                            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate @emammadov
                            last edited by

                            @emammadov said in Updating to 2.4.4 version is safe now?:

                            Is this way safe, backup current configuration, install fresh 2.4.4 and restore that configuration to new 2.4.4? I have backedup all. I want to know, after restoration has been done, everything including previously installed packages, openvpn users and etc. will be restored?

                            Yes, that is safe and config.xml holds all of the settings, including users, so it will all be there after you restore.

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                              fireodo
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                              • fireodoF
                                fireodo @emammadov
                                last edited by

                                @emammadov said in Updating to 2.4.4 version is safe now?:

                                Is this way safe, backup current configuration, install fresh 2.4.4 and restore that configuration to new 2.4.4? I have backedup all. I want to know, after restoration has been done, everything including previously installed packages, openvpn users and etc. will be restored?

                                Thats what I have done and everything is working well (as far as I can see) ... no OpenVPN here ...

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                                • emammadovE
                                  emammadov
                                  last edited by emammadov

                                  I have backedup everything, installed fresh 2.4.4 and restore config xml, selected Package Manager to restore. Reinstall Package button appeared, clicked it, but it is stuck: saying "Please wait while the update system initializes"
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                                  Elvin

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                                  • jimpJ
                                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                    last edited by

                                    You do not need to use that button. When you restore the config it will reinstall the packages for you.

                                    There is a known problem with that button, see https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/8933

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                                    • emammadovE
                                      emammadov
                                      last edited by emammadov

                                      Ok, I try again, I choose Package Manager to restore, I don't click Reinstall packages button. It says: The configuration are has been restored. The firewall may need to be rebooted. But nothing happens next. Shall I have to wait something to happen or it will reboot itself?

                                      In Config History:

                                      10/2/18 14:01:03 18.8 151 KiB admin@192.168.4.10 (Local Database): Restored installedpackages of config file (maybe from CARP partner) Current configuration
                                      10/2/18 14:47:54 18.8 12 KiB (system): wan IP configuration from console menu
                                      10/2/18 14:43:39 18.8 12 KiB (system): wan IP configuration from console menu
                                      10/2/18 14:40:31 18.8 11 KiB (system): Generated new self-signed HTTPS certificate (5bb3835f15f7b)
                                      10/2/18 14:40:12 18.8 7 KiB (system): Upgraded config version level from 18.0 to 18.8
                                      10/2/18 13:58:44 18.8 143 KiB (system): Removed tftpd package.
                                      10/2/18 13:48:33 18.8 151 KiB admin@192.168.4.10 (Local Database): Creating restore point before package installation.
                                      10/2/18 13:47:49 18.8 151 KiB admin@192.168.4.10 (Local Database): Restored installedpackages of config file (maybe from CARP partner)
                                      10/2/18 13:46:48 18.8 143 KiB admin@192.168.4.10 (Local Database): Restored openvpn of config file (maybe from CARP partner)
                                      10/2/18 13:44:54 18.8 137 KiB (system): Removed tftpd package.
                                      10/2/18 13:29:13 18.8 145 KiB admin@192.168.4.10 (Local Database): Creating restore point before package installation.
                                      10/2/18 13:27:43 18.8 145 KiB admin@192.168.4.10 (Local Database): Restored installedpackages of config file (maybe from CARP partner)
                                      10/2/18 13:26:28 18.8 137 KiB (system): Removed tftpd package.
                                      10/2/18 13:26:27 18.8 142 KiB (system): Removed ntopng package.
                                      10/2/18 13:24:24 18.8 145 KiB admin@192.168.4.10 (Local Database): /system_advanced_network.php made unknown change
                                      10/2/18 13:22:31 18.8 145 KiB admin@192.168.4.10 (Local Database): Restored installedpackages of config file (maybe from CARP partner)
                                      10/2/18 12:54:28 18.8 145 KiB admin@192.168.4.10 (Local Database): Creating restore point before package installation.
                                      10/2/18 12:54:15 18.8 145 KiB admin@192.168.4.10 (Local Database): Restored installedpackages of config file (maybe from CARP partner)
                                      10/2/18 12:40:01 18.8 137 KiB admin@192.168.4.10 (Local Database): Successfully edited user admin
                                      10/2/18 12:39:44 18.8 137 KiB admin@192.168.4.10 (Local Database): Restored aliases of config file (maybe from CARP partner)
                                      10/2/18 12:35:34 18.8 125 KiB (system): Removed tftpd package.
                                      10/2/18 12:35:33 18.8 133 KiB (system): Removed OpenVPN Client Export Utility package.
                                      10/2/18 12:33:16 18.8 133 KiB admin@192.168.4.10 (Local Database): Restored installedpackages of config file (maybe from CARP partner)
                                      10/2/18 12:31:19 18.8 125 KiB (system): password changed from console menu
                                      10/2/18 12:29:33 18.8 125 KiB (system): password changed from console menu
                                      10/2/18 12:28:01 18.8 125 KiB (system): Removed tftpd package.
                                      10/2/18 12:28:00 18.8 131 KiB (system): Removed ntopng package.
                                      10/2/18 12:25:55 18.8 133 KiB admin@192.168.4.10 (Local Database): Restored installedpackages of config file (maybe from CARP partner)
                                      10/2/18 12:25:26 18.8 103 KiB admin@192.168.4.10 (Local Database): Restored dhcpd of config file (maybe from CARP partner)
                                      10/2/18 12:24:03 18.8 11 KiB admin@192.168.4.10 (Local Database): Configuration saved on completion of the pfSense setup wizard.
                                      10/2/18 12:24:01 18.8 11 KiB admin@192.168.4.10 (Local Database): Configuration changed via the pfSense wizard subsystem.

                                      Elvin

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                                      • NetResolverN
                                        NetResolver
                                        last edited by

                                        No, is not safe !

                                        Think twice if you go update.

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                                        • emammadovE
                                          emammadov @NetResolver
                                          last edited by

                                          @luisrafael I don't click update. I try to test it in fresh installed 2.4.4 version and restore config.xml. You think this way is not safe too?

                                          Elvin

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                                          • jimpJ
                                            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate @NetResolver
                                            last edited by

                                            @luisrafael said in Updating to 2.4.4 version is safe now?:

                                            No, is not safe !

                                            Think twice if you go update.

                                            If you follow best practices, it is safe. Do not spread FUD.

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