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    • slkamathS
      slkamath @johnpoz
      last edited by

      @johnpoz
      Thank you very much.

      Ok. I will Check & update you tomorrow.

      Lokesh Kamath

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      • slkamathS
        slkamath @johnpoz
        last edited by

        @johnpoz

        I removed the Old Windows DC from the Network but still no luck.

        Lokesh Kamath

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by

          Where did I say anything about the OLD DC? If you want help if figuring out what is wrong your going to have to give us some actually info to work with!!!

          Your smtp server is outside - can you not reach it, can you not resolve it?

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          • slkamathS
            slkamath @johnpoz
            last edited by

            @johnpoz
            Thank you John.

            Sorry.

            SMTP Server is resolving no issue with that.

            traceroute mail.laxmielectronics.com - Result

            Marketing-VLAN
            0_1538849746243_Traceroute MarketingVLAN.png

            Quality-VLAN
            0_1538849766175_Traceroute Quality VLAN.png

            Lokesh Kamath

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              That appears to be going via a completely different route. You don't even a 192.168.1.0/24 subnet on your pfSense firewall.

              I suggest that device at 192.168.1.1 is some other rogue gateway device. Do you even have an account with actcorp.in?

              Steve

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              • slkamathS
                slkamath @stephenw10
                last edited by slkamath

                @stephenw10
                Thanks Steve

                No We don't have actcorp ISP. I think the user has connected to his own wifi Internet due to it is showing like that.

                I am sorry for that. Please excuse me. I will once again post the right details tomorrow.

                Our ISP Spectra.

                Lokesh Kamath

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  hop 2 in that trace 10.253 at 1700ms ??? WTF?? Yeah no wonder they having problems.. Whatever it is they are doing they are not going through your pfsense.

                  And a 13ms 1st hop is horrible - and most likely wifi.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by stephenw10

                    Yup, or cellular. 10.243 smells like CGN to me.
                    Wouldn't be the first phone configured as a hotspot I've seen breaking stuff. 😉

                    Steve

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                    • slkamathS
                      slkamath @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10 @johnpoz
                      Thank you very much.

                      I am sorry for giving wrong info.

                      Traceroute Output.

                      LAN Traceroute
                      0_1538976323669_LAN Traceroute.png

                      Marketing Traceroute
                      0_1538976333918_Marketing Traceroute.png

                      Purchase Traceroute
                      0_1538976344602_Purchase Traceroute.png

                      Lokesh Kamath

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Does it work when you did those traceroutes?

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                        • slkamathS
                          slkamath @johnpoz
                          last edited by

                          @johnpoz
                          Thank you.

                          Yes it is working when i give traceroute mail.laxmielectronics.com.

                          Lokesh Kamath

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            Well there you go then you have your root cause - users not using your connection when they fail ;)

                            The HUGE delays in that network could be a problem, or more than likely that isp they are going out blocks outbound 25.. If that is the port your talking to vs say 465 or 587 which are typical ports talking to smtp server when using encryption..

                            So now you need to figure out why that one that was failing was using that other network..

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                            • slkamathS
                              slkamath @johnpoz
                              last edited by

                              @johnpoz
                              Thank you.

                              We are using most of the Ubuntu system 465 and windows system with 25 and Network Printers use 587 Pots.

                              Ubuntu can use 465 or587 no issues with that.

                              Windows Outlook will not work in 465,587 only work with 25.

                              Network printers will work in 587, 25 not in 465.

                              Those who are in LAN (nearly 30 Systems) dont have issues while sending mails or accessing Shared folder's. Only VLAN systems are having this issue.

                              Lokesh Kamath

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @slkamath
                                last edited by

                                @slkamath said in How to assign Domain Controller to VLAN Systems:

                                Windows Outlook will not work in 465,587 only work with 25.

                                That is NOT true at all.. Sorry but BS... on that - windows outlook can and does work on those ports if correctly configured.

                                You just stated clients are working when you did those traceroute - NO shit they might not work if yous end them out so wifi hotspot connection..

                                If a client is not working before you go resetting its interface - do some basic 101 troubleshooting for gosh sake.. .How is it your in charge of the firewall and don't grasp basic connectivity troubleshooting?? If your client is using port XYZ and its not working... Sniff on the firewall is the client actually sending SYN on that port, is it being blocked? Do you allow it in your rules.. Sniff on your wan are you sending it out? etc. etc...

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Yes, we need to see a traceroute from a machine on one of the affected subnets when it is NOT working.

                                  If you see no hops at all when you try that then check the connection information. Most likely it is no longer using pfSense as it's gateway.

                                  Steve

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                                  • slkamathS
                                    slkamath @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10 @johnpoz
                                    Thank you very much.

                                    I am sorry I am configuring first time. I dont know anythng.

                                    So most of the things i am searching in google and trying. Please dont mind. I am asking some basic help with very good experts. So Sorry for that.

                                    Configured correctly in outlook. if I configure 465 and test it will fail. 587 is working fine.

                                    Allowing & Blocked Ports mentioned already
                                    0_1539078323081_Allowed Port.png

                                    0_1539078333192_Blocked Port.png

                                    If VLAN Clients are idle for 10 to 15 min we are facing the issue of disable & enable network.

                                    Please find the below picture for better understanding.

                                    Marketing-VLAN
                                    When it is not working if i run traceroute command

                                    Before Disable & Enable Network
                                    0_1539076308380_1.png

                                    After Nework Disable & Enable (in Picture you can see wired connection connected)
                                    0_1539076588545_2.png

                                    Traceroute After Nework Disable & Enable
                                    0_1539077028052_Traceroute.png

                                    ===============================================================

                                    Purchase-VLAN
                                    When it is not working if i run traceroute command

                                    Before Disable & Enable Network. Printing also holding. In picture you can see the print icon
                                    0_1539077592580_1.png

                                    After Nework Disable & Enable (in Picture you can see wired connection connected)
                                    0_1539077721348_2.png

                                    Printing is completed After Nework Disable & Enable
                                    0_1539077856501_3.png

                                    Traceroute Output after Nework Disable & Enable
                                    0_1539077953422_Traceroute 1.png

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by johnpoz

                                      So from that you can not just resolve it?

                                      Can your clients resolve anything? Do a simple nslookup or dig for mail.laxmielectronics.com

                                      Can you traceroute to its IP vs its name.. 142.4.7.34, Can you ping IP of pfsense - oh prob not because you are not even allowing basic icmp for troubleshooting..

                                      And lets go over this yet AGAIN!!!~~ your rules are pretty much pointless... Those allow rules mean zero when below them you have an ANY ANY... Other than you saying your limiting bandwidth on that rule? Is that the case?

                                      So your clients are pointing to DC for DNS? Thought you removed them? Where do the DCs get their dns - do they forward do they resolve? What network segment are they in? What are their rules for outbound to dns if resolving.

                                      When you enable/disable the interface - what was it before?? Do a simple ifconfig output.. What was your IP of this device? What was its routing, do a simple netstat -nr

                                      What version of linux you running can you run
                                      systemd-resolve --status

                                      Oh that looks like ubuntu... about about
                                      nmcli dev show | grep DNS

                                      I don't have a ubuntu handy with nmcli installed? or network manager

                                      how about simple output of nslookup, it should tell you who your using - but more than likely just show you loopback as your prob running local cache. How about simple cat of resolv.conf

                                      cat /etc/resolv.conf

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Yes, your firewall rules need rationalising at some point but they are not the cause of the issue here.

                                        You are losing, at least, DNS resolution when the connection fails. The easiest thing to do here is to grab screenshot of the connection information from the Network Manager on a client when it is working and when it fails.

                                        That will show the IP, subnet, gateway and DNS server(s) it's configured to use.

                                        Steve

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                                        • slkamathS
                                          slkamath @stephenw10
                                          last edited by

                                          @stephenw10 @johnpoz
                                          Thank you very much.

                                          Rules of Marketing-VLAN
                                          0_1539146552186_Marketing VLAN.png

                                          Rules of Purchase-VLAN
                                          0_1539146560589_Purchase VLAN.png

                                          System Info
                                          Marketing

                                          0_1539147158962_About Info.png

                                          System Info
                                          Purchase

                                          0_1539147169945_About Info.png

                                          IFCONFIG
                                          Marketing
                                          0_1539148268143_IPconfig.png
                                          0_1539147092312_Network Connections.png

                                          IFCONFIG
                                          Purchase
                                          0_1539147054648_IFConfig.png
                                          0_1539147063800_NW Connection.png

                                          DIG & NSLOOKUP
                                          Marketing - - - -> dig mail.laxmielectronics.com & dig 142.4.7.34
                                          0_1539146859717_dig mail.laxmielectronics.com.png
                                          0_1539147337556_nslookup.png

                                          DIG & NSLOOKUP
                                          Purchase - - - -> dig mail.laxmielectronics.com & dig 142.4.7.34
                                          0_1539148320274_Dig mail.laxmielectronics.com.png
                                          0_1539148383528_Dig 142.4.7.34.png
                                          Before Network - Disable/Enable - NSLOOKUP
                                          0_1539148214529_nslookup.png

                                          After Network - Disable/Enable - NSLOOKUP
                                          0_1539148175749_NW Disable Enable NSLookup 1.png

                                          NETSTAT
                                          Marketing

                                          0_1539147705659_Netstat.png

                                          NETSTAT
                                          Purchase

                                          0_1539147690670_Netstat.png

                                          CAT/ETC/RESOLV.CONF
                                          Marketing
                                          0_1539147778356_Resolv.conf.png

                                          CAT/ETC/RESOLV.CONF
                                          Purchase
                                          0_1539147789619_Resolv.conf.png

                                          TRACEROUTE
                                          Marketing

                                          0_1539147881734_Traceroute.png
                                          0_1539147917143_Traceroute IP.png
                                          after the traceroute 142.4.7.34 -- traceroute mail.laxmielectronics.com is working
                                          0_1539147970950_After Traceroute IP.png

                                          TRACEROUTE
                                          Purchase

                                          0_1539148076269_Traceroute.png

                                          Lokesh Kamath

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            So your pointing to local cache for dns... Doesn't actually tell you where your dns points to...

                                            When did I ever say do a dns lookup of the IP?? Dude - how are you in this field??? I don't need to see every freaking screenshot when it works!!! Or doesn't work for gosh sake... Can you not take basic info and understand what is happening??

                                            I you can not resolve the name - then NO shit your never going to get there..

                                            You need to figure out WHY you can not resolve.. Is your local dns cache is failing or the actual dns?? Do a simple nslookup for the name to the actual dns server vs the local cache.. of 127.0.0.1

                                            Pfsense is your dns right??? So

                                            dig @ipaddressofpfsenseforthatvlan mail.laxmielectronics.com

                                            If that fails - then WHY????? That is your problem...

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