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    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
    last edited by stephenw10 Oct 11, 2018, 1:22 PM Oct 11, 2018, 1:22 PM

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      pglover19
      last edited by Oct 9, 2018, 5:21 PM

      I just purchased 2 Watchguard M440 appliances on EBay. Can pfSense be installed on this unit?

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by stephenw10 Oct 11, 2018, 1:27 PM Oct 9, 2018, 5:24 PM

        Yes. See: this thread! 😜

        Steve

        Edit: Thread split, this was wrong but should now be correct! 😉

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          pglover19
          last edited by Oct 9, 2018, 5:26 PM

          What Xeon processor is supported?

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            pglover19
            last edited by Oct 9, 2018, 5:29 PM

            Is the preferred CPU the i3-4130?

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              pglover19
              last edited by Oct 9, 2018, 5:43 PM

              Can someone recommend a CPU for a M440 unit.

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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by Oct 9, 2018, 5:45 PM

                Oh wait the 440? I misread that.

                The 440 is the one with like 26 ports right? I think that's an Atom C2758 so it will be soldered in.

                Steve

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                  pglover19 @stephenw10
                  last edited by Oct 9, 2018, 6:25 PM

                  @stephenw10 said in Watchguard Firebox M400:

                  Oh wait the 440? I misread that.

                  The 440 is the one with like 26 ports right? I think that's an Atom C2758 so it will be soldered in.

                  Steve

                  Yes... is that good or bad?

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                    pglover19
                    last edited by Oct 9, 2018, 6:28 PM

                    Is the C2758 a AES-NI cpu?

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by Oct 9, 2018, 6:34 PM

                      Yes, it supports AES-NI. It's very low power consumption.... if that's a concern.

                      A much bigger issue with that box is that those ports are connected via an onboard switch, kind of similar to our own XG-7100. We put in a lot of development work to support that switch in FreeBSD/pfSense to be able to make changes to it etc. This one is not that.
                      http://www.lannerinc.com/products/x86-network-appliances/x86-rackmount-appliances/up-2010

                      Steve

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                        pglover19 @stephenw10
                        last edited by Oct 9, 2018, 6:48 PM

                        @stephenw10 said in Watchguard Firebox M400:

                        Yes, it supports AES-NI. It's very low power consumption.... if that's a concern.

                        A much bigger issue with that box is that those ports are connected via an onboard switch, kind of similar to our own XG-7100. We put in a lot of development work to support that switch in FreeBSD/pfSense to be able to make changes to it etc. This one is not that.
                        http://www.lannerinc.com/products/x86-network-appliances/x86-rackmount-appliances/up-2010

                        Steve

                        Will the M440 be a good device for pfSense? I would hate to return them since I got a great deal for 2 units.
                        Unt

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                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by Oct 9, 2018, 6:54 PM

                          I have no idea without testing one. Which would be fun!
                          But if the switch is controllable only via smbus for example it might be a challenge to say the least.
                          I'm sure you could install it but you might find only the 10GbE ports are available initially.
                          Can you try it and see?

                          Steve

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                            pglover19
                            last edited by Oct 9, 2018, 6:57 PM

                            I guess the M400 device would have the better device to buy.

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                              pglover19 @stephenw10
                              last edited by Oct 9, 2018, 7:03 PM

                              @stephenw10 said in Watchguard Firebox M400:

                              I have no idea without testing one. Which would be fun!
                              But if the switch is controllable only via smbus for example it might be a challenge to say the least.
                              I'm sure you could install it but you might find only the 10GbE ports are available initially.
                              Can you try it and see?

                              Steve

                              I could send you 1 of the devices to work on.

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by Oct 9, 2018, 7:51 PM

                                I think you're in the US and I'm in the UK. It would likely have to wait until I'm next over there.

                                But the switch may be pre-configured in someway that allows you to use it anyway.

                                The best thing to do here would be start a new thread and document everything you find.

                                Steve

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                                  pglover19 @stephenw10
                                  last edited by Oct 9, 2018, 8:26 PM

                                  @stephenw10 said in Watchguard Firebox M400:

                                  I think you're in the US and I'm in the UK. It would likely have to wait until I'm next over there.

                                  But the switch may be pre-configured in someway that allows you to use it anyway.

                                  The best thing to do here would be start a new thread and document everything you find.

                                  Steve

                                  Will do... the units are arriving on Friday.

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                                    pglover19
                                    last edited by Oct 9, 2018, 8:31 PM

                                    Is the Atom CPU in the M440 a good CPU for pfSense?

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                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by stephenw10 Oct 9, 2018, 11:26 PM Oct 9, 2018, 11:25 PM

                                      Yes, it's pretty good. We used it in a number of models.

                                      Though obviously it's part of the C2000 family with all that implies.

                                      Steve

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                                        pglover19 @stephenw10
                                        last edited by pglover19 Oct 9, 2018, 11:31 PM Oct 9, 2018, 11:30 PM

                                        @stephenw10 said in Watchguard Firebox M400:

                                        Yes, it's pretty good. We used it in a number of models.

                                        Though obviously it's part of the C2000 family with all that implies.

                                        Steve

                                        I assume the M400 model would have been the preferred model to purchase right?

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                                          pglover19 @stephenw10
                                          last edited by Oct 9, 2018, 11:33 PM

                                          @stephenw10 said in Watchguard Firebox M400:

                                          Yes, it's pretty good. We used it in a number of models.

                                          Though obviously it's part of the C2000 family with all that implies.

                                          Steve
                                          What current models?

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