IPSEC VTI Tunnels

zhongfu

@abounde don't think I can help you there -- I'm using BGP for my setup, and the ERL on the other end isn't mine.

maybe you'd want your gateway to be the VTI IP of the other end though? (e.g. 10.6.106.2 instead of ipsec1000 for the pfSense site, etc)

zhongfu

@jimp It looks like the VTI interface won't come up now, because if_ipsec(4) won't take a subnet mask for the remote component. However, strongswan doesn't seem to route packets between local and remote if the mask for rightsubnet isn't the same as that for leftsubnet

Perhaps it might be a good idea to strip the subnet mask from the remote before running ifconfig ipsecX local_ip/30 remote_ip, or something similar like only accepting an address for the remote but adding the subnet mask from local_ip to remote_ip in the strongswan config?

jimp

I reverted the commit I made to allow changed on that field for now, since it was broken.

There seems to be two possible paths here:

Still allow the field to be changed but (a) add input validation to prevent different masks and (b) ignore the mask bits when running ifconfig -- this could be confusing to the user though
Prevent the field from being changed and inject the local mask bits into rightsubnet in the strongSwan config.

Option #2 is much easier, but I am left to wonder how well that will interact with third party implementations that work now when the remote is an address. It may be fine, but needs testing.

If you want to try that, use the system patches package to revert da54e84ae79328a87b4a319239bb1b14d7ed2ce6 and then add the attached patch as another entry.
0_1536597185830_vti_force_rightsubnet_bits.diff

bepo

@jimp said in IPSEC VTI Tunnels:

Option #2 is much easier, but I am left to wonder how well that will interact with third party implementations that work now when the remote is an address. It may be fine, but needs testing.

Hello @jimp, just to inform here is another user wating for a fix.

SonicWall needs a network as local network. For this i am getting this error:

IKEv2 Responder: Peer's destination network does not match VPN Policy's [Local Network]
VPN Policy: XXXNAMEOFVPNXXX; Proposed network: 172.27.3.1-172.27.3.1

It would be fine, if we could select a network as remote network on pfSense. Thanks a lot!

jimp

Palo Alto seems unhappy as well. I have a new patch to test but it does need testing. It comes up and works for me but I don't have access to any of these other devices (ubnt, sonicwall, PA, etc). Also need to be sure it doesn't interfere with other non-IPsec traffic and other non-VTI IPsec tunnels.

From my other post:

Try the attached patch and see if it helps. I could not get the VTI to come up and pass traffic with only 0.0.0.0/0 in the rightsubnet and leftsubnet, but it did seem to connect and work with the attached patch that has both the VTI endpoints and all zeroes. I haven't testing to see if it interferes with anything else yet, though, just VTI itself (BGP connects and exchanges routes, traffic passes)

0_1538745996158_ipsec-vti-0.0.0.0.diff

Use the System Patches package to apply the diff, or make the changes by hand. After applying the patch, stop IPsec, then edit/save/apply the IPsec VTI P1 or P2 and it should restart with the new policy in place.

turbulence

Hi Jim,

Long time pfSense user here.

Thought I would sign up to the forum to contribute to this. I have just installed patch 0_1538745996158_ipsec-vti-0.0.0.0.diff and setup a VTI between the pfSense and an EdgeRouter 4 (running the latest firmware) and I can report that the VPN is now working correctly. I'll let you know if I come across any subsequent strange behaviors, but everything is looking good so far.

fsamareanu

@jimp I've encountered a similar issue (I could ping the tunnel IP addresses but nothing else) by doing a pfsense-debian buster ipsec connection. I can prepare a testcase on a vultr VM pair if required and ship you the credentials.

EDIT: I still see these in the log file(s) when I go to status-ipsec:

But the tunnels are up and passing traffic.

jimp

@fsamareanu said in IPSEC VTI Tunnels:

@jimp I've encountered a similar issue (I could ping the tunnel IP addresses but nothing else) by doing a pfsense-debian buster ipsec connection. I can prepare a testcase on a vultr VM pair if required and ship you the credentials.

But the tunnels are up and passing traffic.

Is this with the new patch applied? If not, apply that patch.

EDIT: I still see these in the log file(s) when I go to status-ipsec:

Oct 8 13:04:37 192.168.100.1 charon: 04[KNL] <con3000|3> querying policy 0.0.0.0/0|/0 === 0.0.0.0/0|/0 in failed, not found

I'm not terribly surprised there, since VTI doesn't actually install the policy in the kernel since it isn't needed. That may be prohibitively difficult to suppress that warning but if I do end up committing this patch we can look into it after.

fsamareanu

@jimp the warning is with the patch applied. The error was there before as well, just showing the /30 subnet and the corresponding remote tunnel ip.

I have not tested the pfsense-Linux ipsec tunnel after the pfsense patch. Will get to it tomorrow and update here.

BluRay

@turbulence said in IPSEC VTI Tunnels:

Hi Jim,

Long time pfSense user here.

Thought I would sign up to the forum to contribute to this. I have just installed patch 0_1538745996158_ipsec-vti-0.0.0.0.diff and setup a VTI between the pfSense and an EdgeRouter 4 (running the latest firmware) and I can report that the VPN is now working correctly. I'll let you know if I come across any subsequent strange behaviors, but everything is looking good so far.

Mind sharing your configuration?
I am trying to get IPSec VTI running between PfSense and EdgeRouter X but i'm not able to get it working. (I already applied latest patch)
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Logging:

Oct 12 09:11:40	charon		12[KNL] creating acquire job for policy X.X.X.X/32|/0 === X.X.X.X/32|/0 with reqid {0}
Oct 12 09:11:40	charon		12[KNL] received an SADB_ACQUIRE with policy id 8936 but no matching policy found
Oct 12 09:11:38	charon		06[CFG] vici client 148 disconnected
Oct 12 09:11:38	charon		16[CFG] vici client 148 requests: list-sas
Oct 12 09:11:38	charon		16[CFG] vici client 148 registered for: list-sa
Oct 12 09:11:38	charon		08[CFG] vici client 148 connected

turbulence

Sure thing.

Here's the ER4 config to start with. BTW, you need to be using IKEV2.

==PEER CONFIG==
show vpn ipsec site-to-site peer X.X.X.X
authentication {
mode pre-shared-secret
pre-shared-secret SECRETGOESHERE
}
connection-type initiate
description TUNNEL-NAME-HERE
ike-group FOO4
ikev2-reauth yes
local-address Y.Y.Y.Y
vti {
bind vti4
esp-group FOO4
}

==ESP CONFIG==
show vpn ipsec esp-group FOO4
compression disable
lifetime 28800
mode tunnel
pfs dh-group14
proposal 1 {
encryption aes256
hash sha256
}

==IKE CONFIG==
show vpn ipsec ike-group FOO4
ikev2-reauth yes
key-exchange ikev2
lifetime 28800
proposal 1 {
dh-group 14
encryption aes256
hash sha256
}

==VTI CONFIG==
show interfaces vti vti4
address 10.10.202.2/30
mtu 1436

==ROUTE CONFIG==
show protocols static interface-route 172.24.16.0/24
next-hop-interface vti4 {
description TUNNEL-NAME-HERE
}

turbulence

And here's the PFSense configuration.

Let me know if you need any further assistance!

BluRay

@turbulence said in IPSEC VTI Tunnels:

And here's the PFSense configuration.

Let me know if you need any further assistance!

Thank you for the information. Will try it out later today and report back.

BluRay

@turbulence said in IPSEC VTI Tunnels:

And here's the PFSense configuration.

Let me know if you need any further assistance!

Ok, I tried to do it with IKEv2 and instead of Type 'Network' on Remote Network in PfSense Phase 2 setting, I used Type 'Address'.

With those settings the tunnel will come online. But I'm still not able to pass traffic.
What I found out is the following:
When I start a packetdump on PfSense I see ICMP traffic. (192.168.111.1 --> 192.168.111.2)
On EdgeRouter X side I see the ICMP messages arrive and the router also responds, but the response packets never reach the IPSEC1000 interface on the PfSense.

PfSense
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EdgeRouter
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volga629

Hello Everyone,
I got vti setup working between pfsense and edgerouter pro with ebgp in place . Patch for 0.0.0.0/0 is required.

key point was Address in phase 2 and on edge router firewall allow BGP in VPN zone. VPN configuration on edge router is standard vti setup.

Phase 2

The only one think is that tunnel goes down time to time. In logs I see

Oct 13 08:48:58 php-fpm 35862 /rc.newipsecdns: Gateway, none 'available' for inet6, use the first one configured. ''
Oct 13 08:48:58 php-fpm 35862 /rc.newipsecdns: The command '/sbin/ifconfig 'ipsec3000' create reqid '3000'' returned exit code '1', the output was 'ifconfig: create: bad value'
Oct 13 08:48:57 check_reload_status Reloading filter
Oct 13 08:48:57 php-fpm 35862 /rc.newipsecdns: IPSEC: One or more IPsec tunnel endpoints has changed its IP. Refreshing.
Oct 13 08:48:42 php-fpm 61417 /rc.openvpn: Gateway, none 'available' for inet6, use the first one configured. ''
Oct 13 08:48:41 check_reload_status Reloading filter

BluRay

My problem is solved. On the other side (EdgeRouter side) I use Dual-WAN with LB. I'm migrating this tunnel from VyOS to PfSense. The PfSense public IP was being loadbalanced. This caused the IPSec traffic to go over the wrong outside interface. After adding the public IP to the LB Exclude list, things started working.

Now I am running into another (NAT) problem. Maybe one of you can test if you get the same result. If I add an NAT rule to masquerade traffic with IP-address of VTI interface I am not able to reach anything on the EdgeRouter side.

What I am doing to test:
Ping from PfSense CLI to 192.168.111.2 (EdgeRouter). This works without the NAT rule. When I enable the NAT rule it stops working.

So far my observations are:
Traffic is leaving IPsec1000 interface on PfSense with correct NAT address (192.168.111.1). Traffic arrives on interface EdgeRouter and EdgeRouter sends traffic back which also arrives back at the IPsec1000 interface. But PfSense never gets reply on ICMP-echo request.

NAT rule looks like this. (Interface is VTI interface)
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@turbulence

volga629

I am watching tunnel and it not 100% stable. Sometimes pfsense stop reply to traffic from vpn tunnel. I see traffic arrive on vti interface, but never send reply.

jimp

@bluray said in IPSEC VTI Tunnels:

Now I am running into another (NAT) problem. Maybe one of you can test if you get the same result. If I add an NAT rule to masquerade traffic with IP-address of VTI interface I am not able to reach anything on the EdgeRouter side.

That's a known issue, NAT doesn't work with VTI currently. There is some weirdness between if_ipsec/VTI and pf where the traffic hits both the ipsecX interface and enc0. You might try putting the NAT rule on the "IPsec" interface in the GUI and not the assigned VTI interface.

BluRay

@jimp said in IPSEC VTI Tunnels:

@bluray said in IPSEC VTI Tunnels:

Now I am running into another (NAT) problem. Maybe one of you can test if you get the same result. If I add an NAT rule to masquerade traffic with IP-address of VTI interface I am not able to reach anything on the EdgeRouter side.

That's a known issue, NAT doesn't work with VTI currently. There is some weirdness between if_ipsec/VTI and pf where the traffic hits both the ipsecX interface and enc0. You might try putting the NAT rule on the "IPsec" interface in the GUI and not the assigned VTI interface.

Hello Jim,

Thank you for your feedback.
Unfortunately that doesn't work in my case. Is there a bugreport for this so I can track this issue? If not how can I make one?

jimp

I don't recall if I made an issue for it on Redmine, but it's not one that we can address. It will need to be taken upstream to FreeBSD directly.