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    How to assign Domain Controller to VLAN Systems

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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      Yes, your firewall rules need rationalising at some point but they are not the cause of the issue here.

      You are losing, at least, DNS resolution when the connection fails. The easiest thing to do here is to grab screenshot of the connection information from the Network Manager on a client when it is working and when it fails.

      That will show the IP, subnet, gateway and DNS server(s) it's configured to use.

      Steve

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      • slkamathS
        slkamath @stephenw10
        last edited by

        @stephenw10 @johnpoz
        Thank you very much.

        Rules of Marketing-VLAN
        0_1539146552186_Marketing VLAN.png

        Rules of Purchase-VLAN
        0_1539146560589_Purchase VLAN.png

        System Info
        Marketing

        0_1539147158962_About Info.png

        System Info
        Purchase

        0_1539147169945_About Info.png

        IFCONFIG
        Marketing
        0_1539148268143_IPconfig.png
        0_1539147092312_Network Connections.png

        IFCONFIG
        Purchase
        0_1539147054648_IFConfig.png
        0_1539147063800_NW Connection.png

        DIG & NSLOOKUP
        Marketing - - - -> dig mail.laxmielectronics.com & dig 142.4.7.34
        0_1539146859717_dig mail.laxmielectronics.com.png
        0_1539147337556_nslookup.png

        DIG & NSLOOKUP
        Purchase - - - -> dig mail.laxmielectronics.com & dig 142.4.7.34
        0_1539148320274_Dig mail.laxmielectronics.com.png
        0_1539148383528_Dig 142.4.7.34.png
        Before Network - Disable/Enable - NSLOOKUP
        0_1539148214529_nslookup.png

        After Network - Disable/Enable - NSLOOKUP
        0_1539148175749_NW Disable Enable NSLookup 1.png

        NETSTAT
        Marketing

        0_1539147705659_Netstat.png

        NETSTAT
        Purchase

        0_1539147690670_Netstat.png

        CAT/ETC/RESOLV.CONF
        Marketing
        0_1539147778356_Resolv.conf.png

        CAT/ETC/RESOLV.CONF
        Purchase
        0_1539147789619_Resolv.conf.png

        TRACEROUTE
        Marketing

        0_1539147881734_Traceroute.png
        0_1539147917143_Traceroute IP.png
        after the traceroute 142.4.7.34 -- traceroute mail.laxmielectronics.com is working
        0_1539147970950_After Traceroute IP.png

        TRACEROUTE
        Purchase

        0_1539148076269_Traceroute.png

        Lokesh Kamath

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by

          So your pointing to local cache for dns... Doesn't actually tell you where your dns points to...

          When did I ever say do a dns lookup of the IP?? Dude - how are you in this field??? I don't need to see every freaking screenshot when it works!!! Or doesn't work for gosh sake... Can you not take basic info and understand what is happening??

          I you can not resolve the name - then NO shit your never going to get there..

          You need to figure out WHY you can not resolve.. Is your local dns cache is failing or the actual dns?? Do a simple nslookup for the name to the actual dns server vs the local cache.. of 127.0.0.1

          Pfsense is your dns right??? So

          dig @ipaddressofpfsenseforthatvlan mail.laxmielectronics.com

          If that fails - then WHY????? That is your problem...

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Ok, so I think what you are showing there is that the machine in the Marketing VLAN is working and the machine in the Purchase VLAN was not able to resolve the mail server until you disabled/enabled the adapter, right?

            Both those machines are configured to use external DNS servers. If that Connection Information screenshot was taken when it was not working it looks OK though. So you have some DNS issue.

            Is there some reason you're not handing out the interface IP as DNS in DHCP?

            Also both those machines are now out of date, the one in Purchase by a long way!

            Steve

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            • slkamathS
              slkamath @stephenw10
              last edited by slkamath

              @stephenw10 @johnpoz
              Thank you very much.

              I think initially pfsense IP (192.168.10.1) was not been set as DNS. Now I removed External DNS fom LAN & VLAN and kept blank. Now I am getting Primary DNS as pfSense IP.

              dig 192.168.10.1 mail.laxmielectronics.com
              did this from Purchase-VLAN and i am getting answer for both.

              dig 192.168.40.1 mail.laxmielectronics.com
              did this from Purchase-VLAN and i am getting answer for both.

              I did some changes:

              1. Removed External DNS from LAN.
              2. Now LAN IF CONFIG - IP: 192.168.10.2 SUBNET: 24 Gateway: 192.168.10.1 Primary DNS: 192.168.10.1 (No Secondary DNS) I think now pfSense is pointing as DNS
              3. Removed External DNS (ISP Provided) from all VLANS.
              4. Now VLAN IFCONFIG - IP: 192.168.30.60 SUBNET: 24 Gateway: 192.168.30.1 Primary DNS: 192.168.30.1 (No Secondary DNS)
              5. Firewall VLAN Rules did few changes. (Same for other VLAN too)
                0_1539318021781_Marketing VLAN.png

              I will test this today and update you.

              Once again thanks for your time.

              Lokesh Kamath

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by

                @slkamath said in How to assign Domain Controller to VLAN Systems:

                Removed External DNS (ISP Provided) from all VLANS.

                Your clients that are members of AD... Ie you have domain controllers should be pointing to your DC that running dns for your domain.. This will be the authoritative NS for your AD.. And have all your AD records in it..

                This or these NS if you have more than 1 running your AD dns will either forward or resolve any domains it is not authoritative for.. Member machines of AD should always point to the NS for your AD.. That would not be pfsense out of the box running unbound.. You could prob do with the bind package.. But when you have AD, it makes little sense to not just run DNS for on one of the DCs if not multiples of them.

                Pointing client machines to more than 1 NS that can not resolve the same stuff is going to lead you to nothing but problems since you can never be sure which NS your client is going to ask for specific query.

                If your clients were pointing to multiple NS and 1 of them could not resolve your smtp servers fqdn, then yeah a reset of the interface would prob force it to query the 1st vs the 2nd, etc. Or who knows how you had them setup..

                If your going to point your clients to pfsense for dns and you running an AD, your going to want to make sure you setup all the domain overrides for your AD dns, or your going to want to make sure pfsense points to your AD nameserver(s)..

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                • slkamathS
                  slkamath @johnpoz
                  last edited by

                  @johnpoz
                  Thank you very much. ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ‘Œ

                  ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ‘ I really forgotten the AD clients. Thank you so much for reminding.

                  Still disable & enable is must for only VLAN Clients.โ˜น

                  Lokesh Kamath

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Dude where are they pointing for DNS?? You do understand that showing 127.0.0.1 is pointing them to their own local running copy of dnsmasq - you need to know where that points!!!

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                    • slkamathS
                      slkamath @johnpoz
                      last edited by

                      @johnpoz
                      Thank you very much.

                      In LAN few Ubuntu systems are there and those system also shows 127.0.0.1 but no issue with those (if system idle for anytime next moment it is working).

                      Those VLAN clients DNS pointing can I manually change to pfSense ??

                      Lokesh Kamath

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        Your clients should point to your AD for dns..

                        My point is your clients showing that they point to loopback doesn't tell you where they point... They are pointing to their own local cache..

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                        • slkamathS
                          slkamath @johnpoz
                          last edited by

                          @johnpoz
                          Thank you so much.

                          I will do the changes by monday and let you know.

                          Once again thanks for your time.

                          Lokesh Kamath

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