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    [Solved] I'm apparently unable to port forward...

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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      The OP deleted them - you would have to ask him why he deleted them.. he had some screenshots in them. But none of which showed any personal info, etc.

      If the OP wanted them deleted that is his call.

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      • NinoM4sterN
        NinoM4ster
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        • NinoM4sterN
          NinoM4ster @johnpoz
          last edited by NinoM4ster

          @johnpoz Yes, I was thinking about spoofing the WAN mac..

          About the public address block, I also don't know how they work.. sometimes I get 186.X, sometimes 187.X, and sometimes even 201.X.. it's really weird..

          I'll check right now if I have ICMP rule enabled here... yes, I do....

          And will also try to ping your IP (though I already did that with no success the other day) Yeah, no response..

          Weird thing is that I can ping your IP using this tool.

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          • NinoM4sterN
            NinoM4ster
            last edited by

            @johnpoz :

            Is this your ISP?
            ALGAR TELECOM S/A

            Ah, sorry.. no, it's not. My ISP (ViaReal) probably use AlgarTelecom's route.

            I ran a Traceroute to your IP and it stopped at eqix-dc2.wideopenwest.com [206.126.236.136]. Can you try one at my direction and send me the screenshot?

            Thanks.

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
              last edited by

              So your ISP is forwarding outbound connections from you but dropping inbound connections. You'll have to ask them why that is.

              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by johnpoz

                Look at this NONSENSE tracing to you..

                >tracert -d 201.162.x.x
                
                Tracing route to 201.162.x.x over a maximum of 30 hops
                
                  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.9.253
                  2    10 ms    11 ms    11 ms  50.4.132.1
                  3     9 ms     9 ms     9 ms  76.73.191.106
                  4    31 ms    11 ms     9 ms  76.73.164.121
                  5    10 ms    12 ms    11 ms  76.73.191.140
                  6    12 ms    12 ms    12 ms  76.73.164.105
                  7    10 ms    10 ms    19 ms  76.73.164.65
                  8    20 ms    11 ms    23 ms  76.73.191.224
                  9    19 ms    11 ms    15 ms  75.76.35.10
                 10    32 ms    35 ms    32 ms  75.76.84.231
                 11    31 ms    32 ms    32 ms  75.76.35.105
                 12   154 ms   155 ms   156 ms  198.32.160.236
                 13   157 ms   161 ms   156 ms  200.150.1.169
                 14   155 ms   155 ms   158 ms  200.150.10.1
                 15   176 ms   173 ms   173 ms  177.126.100.153
                 16   175 ms   174 ms   177 ms  10.0.20.190
                

                16 175 ms 174 ms 177 ms 10.0.20.190

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                • DerelictD
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                  last edited by

                  Not quite sure how you got those responses at all there.

                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Yeah I don't either clearly something WAY wrong there.. Should be impossible to get such an answer.

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                    • DerelictD
                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                      last edited by

                      I suppose it's possible that nobody along the path is filtering for that.

                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                      • NinoM4sterN
                        NinoM4ster
                        last edited by

                        @Derelict :

                        So your ISP is forwarding outbound connections from you but dropping inbound connections.

                        That's not totally true.. my friend from a city far away can ping me with no problems. And also, I can't ping John's address either, so I guess the problem is up higher... I can get past Algar which I guess is my ISP's route, and John can get up to Algar in the opposite way..

                        I really don't freaking know what's happening, but I've seen it before.. A few months ago I tried to, but I couldn't access a website my friend from the US was hosting at his place, and he narrowed it down to be a Comcast router blocking incoming traffic from me (I'm in Brazil).

                        So, what I meant with all this is that it may not be my ISP, and also may not be yours.
                        (btw, all this time I've been using my Mikrotik router, not the pfSense. Though I'm waiting for my dad to go have dinner to swap everything).

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                        • DerelictD
                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                          last edited by

                          Which is why I use the term "upstream."

                          Nothing else out on the internet knows squat about what device you are using. That is between you and the first hop.

                          If a router somewhere out there is blocking your IP address, it would not matter if it was pfSense or the mikrotik connected at your end.

                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                          • NinoM4sterN
                            NinoM4ster
                            last edited by NinoM4ster

                            @johnpoz :

                            (...) clearly something WAY wrong there..

                            Indeed. I have no doubt that my ISP isn't capable of doing things right..

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                            • NinoM4sterN
                              NinoM4ster @Derelict
                              last edited by

                              @derelict I'm fully aware of that. I was just mentioning.

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by johnpoz

                                So if your IP your current router works for routing... Then have pfsense use the same mac so it gets the same IP and you should be fine.

                                Also it would be your ISP job to troubleshoot why your IP can not get to another IP, or why some IPs can not get to your IPs... They are the ones that advertise their routes, etc. If there is something wrong upstream for their networks then they are the ones that need to work out the problem... Not the end user.

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                                • DerelictD
                                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                  last edited by

                                  My recommendation is to solve the issue with the other gear/MAC and the ISP before resorting to things like MAC spoofing. To me that stuff should be a last resort. Certainly doesn't cost anything to try it but if it does fix the problem I would pursue getting it working with the native MAC address.

                                  (If that is actually the problem which is becoming less and less clear with every post)

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                                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    Not so much what the mac is - but he gets an IP in a completely different netblock.. 2 different /24 not even in the same parent..

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                                    • DerelictD
                                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                      last edited by

                                      Right. That should be sorted out with the ISP using the new MAC address. Then there isn't some MAC spoofing hack in the network.

                                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Agree any IP he gets from his ISP should work... But would be a simple test to see if it works when he uses the same IP.. Which is info he can take to the ISP.. This IP works - this IP doesn't.. Which he could do now - but I still think he thinks it has something to do with pfsense. Getting pfsense to work when it has the same IP would prove to him its upstream from him and not pfsense.

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                                        • DerelictD
                                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                          last edited by Derelict

                                          right.

                                          Certainly doesn't cost anything to try it but if it does fix the problem I would pursue getting it working with the native MAC address.

                                          I just don't like long-term bandages on my networks. You never know when, for instance, your particular mix of "extra" things that nobody else has will fail on an upgrade, etc.

                                          MAC addresses change. ISPs need to deal with it.

                                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                          • NinoM4sterN
                                            NinoM4ster
                                            last edited by

                                            Ok, just an update. I got the pfSense box running with the spoofed mac, and indeed, I got a public IP on the same block.. (though not exactly the same address.. the last part changed).

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                                            I'm gonna take my time now to do everything I can to get this thing working already..

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