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    [Solved] I'm apparently unable to port forward...

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    • NinoM4sterN
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      • NinoM4sterN
        NinoM4ster @johnpoz
        last edited by NinoM4ster

        @johnpoz Yes, I was thinking about spoofing the WAN mac..

        About the public address block, I also don't know how they work.. sometimes I get 186.X, sometimes 187.X, and sometimes even 201.X.. it's really weird..

        I'll check right now if I have ICMP rule enabled here... yes, I do....

        And will also try to ping your IP (though I already did that with no success the other day) Yeah, no response..

        Weird thing is that I can ping your IP using this tool.

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        • NinoM4sterN
          NinoM4ster
          last edited by

          @johnpoz :

          Is this your ISP?
          ALGAR TELECOM S/A

          Ah, sorry.. no, it's not. My ISP (ViaReal) probably use AlgarTelecom's route.

          I ran a Traceroute to your IP and it stopped at eqix-dc2.wideopenwest.com [206.126.236.136]. Can you try one at my direction and send me the screenshot?

          Thanks.

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          • DerelictD
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
            last edited by

            So your ISP is forwarding outbound connections from you but dropping inbound connections. You'll have to ask them why that is.

            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by johnpoz

              Look at this NONSENSE tracing to you..

              >tracert -d 201.162.x.x
              
              Tracing route to 201.162.x.x over a maximum of 30 hops
              
                1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.9.253
                2    10 ms    11 ms    11 ms  50.4.132.1
                3     9 ms     9 ms     9 ms  76.73.191.106
                4    31 ms    11 ms     9 ms  76.73.164.121
                5    10 ms    12 ms    11 ms  76.73.191.140
                6    12 ms    12 ms    12 ms  76.73.164.105
                7    10 ms    10 ms    19 ms  76.73.164.65
                8    20 ms    11 ms    23 ms  76.73.191.224
                9    19 ms    11 ms    15 ms  75.76.35.10
               10    32 ms    35 ms    32 ms  75.76.84.231
               11    31 ms    32 ms    32 ms  75.76.35.105
               12   154 ms   155 ms   156 ms  198.32.160.236
               13   157 ms   161 ms   156 ms  200.150.1.169
               14   155 ms   155 ms   158 ms  200.150.10.1
               15   176 ms   173 ms   173 ms  177.126.100.153
               16   175 ms   174 ms   177 ms  10.0.20.190
              

              16 175 ms 174 ms 177 ms 10.0.20.190

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              • DerelictD
                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                last edited by

                Not quite sure how you got those responses at all there.

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                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                  Yeah I don't either clearly something WAY wrong there.. Should be impossible to get such an answer.

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                  • DerelictD
                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                    last edited by

                    I suppose it's possible that nobody along the path is filtering for that.

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                    DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                    • NinoM4sterN
                      NinoM4ster
                      last edited by

                      @Derelict :

                      So your ISP is forwarding outbound connections from you but dropping inbound connections.

                      That's not totally true.. my friend from a city far away can ping me with no problems. And also, I can't ping John's address either, so I guess the problem is up higher... I can get past Algar which I guess is my ISP's route, and John can get up to Algar in the opposite way..

                      I really don't freaking know what's happening, but I've seen it before.. A few months ago I tried to, but I couldn't access a website my friend from the US was hosting at his place, and he narrowed it down to be a Comcast router blocking incoming traffic from me (I'm in Brazil).

                      So, what I meant with all this is that it may not be my ISP, and also may not be yours.
                      (btw, all this time I've been using my Mikrotik router, not the pfSense. Though I'm waiting for my dad to go have dinner to swap everything).

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                      • DerelictD
                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                        last edited by

                        Which is why I use the term "upstream."

                        Nothing else out on the internet knows squat about what device you are using. That is between you and the first hop.

                        If a router somewhere out there is blocking your IP address, it would not matter if it was pfSense or the mikrotik connected at your end.

                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                        • NinoM4sterN
                          NinoM4ster
                          last edited by NinoM4ster

                          @johnpoz :

                          (...) clearly something WAY wrong there..

                          Indeed. I have no doubt that my ISP isn't capable of doing things right..

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                          • NinoM4sterN
                            NinoM4ster @Derelict
                            last edited by

                            @derelict I'm fully aware of that. I was just mentioning.

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by johnpoz

                              So if your IP your current router works for routing... Then have pfsense use the same mac so it gets the same IP and you should be fine.

                              Also it would be your ISP job to troubleshoot why your IP can not get to another IP, or why some IPs can not get to your IPs... They are the ones that advertise their routes, etc. If there is something wrong upstream for their networks then they are the ones that need to work out the problem... Not the end user.

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                              • DerelictD
                                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                last edited by

                                My recommendation is to solve the issue with the other gear/MAC and the ISP before resorting to things like MAC spoofing. To me that stuff should be a last resort. Certainly doesn't cost anything to try it but if it does fix the problem I would pursue getting it working with the native MAC address.

                                (If that is actually the problem which is becoming less and less clear with every post)

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  Not so much what the mac is - but he gets an IP in a completely different netblock.. 2 different /24 not even in the same parent..

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                                  • DerelictD
                                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                    last edited by

                                    Right. That should be sorted out with the ISP using the new MAC address. Then there isn't some MAC spoofing hack in the network.

                                    Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                    A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                    DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                    Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Agree any IP he gets from his ISP should work... But would be a simple test to see if it works when he uses the same IP.. Which is info he can take to the ISP.. This IP works - this IP doesn't.. Which he could do now - but I still think he thinks it has something to do with pfsense. Getting pfsense to work when it has the same IP would prove to him its upstream from him and not pfsense.

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                                      • DerelictD
                                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                        last edited by Derelict

                                        right.

                                        Certainly doesn't cost anything to try it but if it does fix the problem I would pursue getting it working with the native MAC address.

                                        I just don't like long-term bandages on my networks. You never know when, for instance, your particular mix of "extra" things that nobody else has will fail on an upgrade, etc.

                                        MAC addresses change. ISPs need to deal with it.

                                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                        • NinoM4sterN
                                          NinoM4ster
                                          last edited by

                                          Ok, just an update. I got the pfSense box running with the spoofed mac, and indeed, I got a public IP on the same block.. (though not exactly the same address.. the last part changed).

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                                          I'm gonna take my time now to do everything I can to get this thing working already..

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                                          • NinoM4sterN
                                            NinoM4ster
                                            last edited by

                                            Another update.. I finally learned how to use Packet Capture, and I do receive stuff on port 8889 when I hit a scan on canyouseeme.org .

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                                            So far so good. Gonna try the damn port forwarding now.

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