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      immy @dennypage
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      @dennypage said in SG-5100 package contents mystery:

      @immy I think they meant that the external AC/DC power cables are included. Neither of my units had SATA cables of any kind in the box.

      My advise is to either wait for your unit to arrive so you can physically see the connections or to reach out to Netgate and ask them what you need to connect a given style of drive.

      I find it hard to believe that this question:
      "Does it come with the SATA cable (data+power) ?"

      "The power cable is there but the data is not."

      Epic fail Netgate

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        immy @luckman212
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        @luckman212 Thanks.

        I guess I will have to go order the Lanner NCA-1510A optional accessory "SATA Cable Serial ATA Power Data Cable for SATA HDD +SATA Power Cable".
        Since it is that model it should work.

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        • jimpJ
          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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          The system comes with eMMC storage and can easily be expanded with M.2 disks, which don't require anything extra and take up much less space in the case.

          You can add on a bulky SSD, or a spinning rust HDD, if you like using outside parts, but it is disingenuous to imply that it doesn't come with the parts that allow it to use expanded storage. We don't sell those kits as an optional accessory because most people don't want them, they want M.2 disks.

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          • luckman212L
            luckman212 LAYER 8
            last edited by luckman212

            Jim- I was working back and forth for about a month with Nathan Pintar on your guys' team on this. I was trying to try to track down an M.2 drive that would fit. He told me Netgate only recommends SSDs from "Tier 1" vendors- e.g. Intel, Samsung, etc.

            The problem is, the slot is not NVMe, it's the older SATA3 type, and it's not the usual 2280 form factor, it's 2242. I spent weeks scouring the internet looking for a drive that met the criteria:

            • Tier1 supplier
            • SATA interface
            • M.2 2242 NGFF
            • 240-256GB
            • In stock

            I gave up eventually and could not find anything. Maybe you guys as a wholesale buyer have more options, but when I ordered my unit, there weren't any SSD add-ons being offered on the Netgate store.

            I settled on a 2.5" Intel D3-S4610. I definitely wanted to skip the fuss of a 2.5" drive but I still can't find anything in that form factor.

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              dennypage @luckman212
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              @luckman212

              I don't think M.2 drives are too hard to find. Here are a few on Amazon:

              Transcend
              KingSpec
              MyDigital
              KingDian

              I can attest that the Transcend works fine. When queried, Netgate indicated that they had tested the KingSpec cards with the SG-5100, and that the KingSpec cards were what they use with the SG-3100.

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              • luckman212L
                luckman212 LAYER 8
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                @dennypage yup I found all of those too. The thing is, I shied away because of the warning about only using Tier1. Of those 4, the only one that has much of a reputation is Transcend. If Netgate had tested the KingSpec, I wish I'd known about it, because the email I got from them only mentioned having tested an Intel DC S3510 and a BiWIN C6308. The BiWIN I couldn't find in stock anywhere, and the S3510 seems to be a 2.5" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                  immy @dennypage
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                  @dennypage Try in Australia.
                  Amazon won't ship from the USA anymore.
                  MyDigitalSSD Super Boot 2 256GB M.2 42mm (2242) is the closest that I could find.
                  Even that is out of stock locally.

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                    joesl
                    last edited by

                    Got mine today.. Nice to see I wasn't the only one wondering what those things were 😁

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                    • luckman212L
                      luckman212 LAYER 8
                      last edited by

                      I emailed MyDigitalSSD and the 256GB NGFF 2242 units are back in stock.... not sure about worldwide shipping but I think they do -- they're selling for about US$85 not too bad

                      I paid double that for my Intel DC4610 2.5"

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                        Bumper
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                        So I installed a new KingSpec M.2 drive in my SG-5100. Now what do I do for the system to actually use it? I assume there is some sort of partitioning and formatting to do. My dashboard just shows the standard 8gb drive.

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                        • jimpJ
                          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate @Bumper
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                          @bumper said in SG-5100 package contents mystery:

                          So I installed a new KingSpec M.2 drive in my SG-5100. Now what do I do for the system to actually use it? I assume there is some sort of partitioning and formatting to do. My dashboard just shows the standard 8gb drive.

                          Start a new thread to ask an unrelated question.

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                            aah57
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                            @luckman212 said in SG-5100 package contents mystery:

                            BiWIN C6308

                            Hi guys,

                            Were any of you successful in eventually finding a M.2 SSD that would work with the SG-5100?

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