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    Issues after upgrade to 2.4.4 on all firewalls : Diagnostic ->Tables is empty

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      Mmm, nothing special there. There must be something different about how they are configured.
      You have other aliases that do populate? The sub groups still populate correctly?

      Steve

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        chriva
        last edited by

        @Grimson
        Here you have the screenshot of how groups are made.
        I can confirm that they are all made of static ip addresses.
        @stephenw10
        It is not easy to answer your question: in general some alias where populated, some where not populated.
        My access to https gui comes from a rule with an alias and it usually works, but not always since the upgrade.
        At hte same way some of the subgroups wehre populated, some other not.

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        0_1543418123859_sub_group.png 0_1543418129772_group.png

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Hmm, it still looks exactly like the sort of issue we saw previously where it tries to resolve one of those things as an FQDN instead of using the alias. There's definitely no errors in the DNS log when it fails?

          Steve

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            chriva
            last edited by

            No, I noticed no error: just in case how is the DNS log enabled ?
            Now I did a rollback of all of the installation except one.
            I will try to keep an eye on it, but traffic through this device is very few. I don't even know if this firewall needed ever showed the problem.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              It is enabled by default for errors and status information but you can turn up the logging level to see all dns requests if required. That's a setting in Services > DNS Resolver > Advanced Settings.

              Steve

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                chriva
                last edited by

                Hi,
                should I set it up to maximum level? (I've just set it to lvl5)
                What should I look for in clog /var/log/resolver.log ?
                Can you give me an example?

                Regards.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by stephenw10

                  I wouldn't expect you to need to turn up the logging. For example here's what I see in the resolver logs if I add an IP to an alias but typo it:

                  
                  Dec 4 12:53:14 	filterdns 		Adding Action: pf table: Test_Alias_2 host: 192.16810.10
                  Dec 4 12:53:14 	filterdns 		Adding host 192.16810.10
                  Dec 4 12:53:14 	filterdns 		failed to resolve host 192.16810.10 will retry later again. 
                  

                  Steve

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                    PC Medic
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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by stephenw10

                      Yes it should. I deliberately typo'd it to show what happens.
                      It sees it as an FQDN as it's not a valid IP address and tries to resolve it. And of course that fails resulting in the errors shown.

                      Steve

                      Edit: Replying to a deleted post now. 😉

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                        PC Medic
                        last edited by

                        yeah, deleted my post as I overlooked the mention of 'not a valid IP address' in your original

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                          chriva
                          last edited by

                          Thanks for your support and suggestions.
                          I have no filterdns entries in the logs until now.
                          I will keep an eye on it.

                          Remember that the same configuration on 2.4.3_p1 gives me no issues.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            The most likely thing there is you're hitting something really obscure that passes in php 5.6 but not in php 7. I would have expected some error though but it may simply interpret it differently.

                            Steve

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                              chriva
                              last edited by

                              Hi to all,
                              I have an update: facing the same problem on 2.4.4_p1
                              I have an alias like
                              FQDN_Hamal
                              corrisponding to
                              hamal.intranet

                              The name is correctly resolved like
                              *drill hamal.intranet @127.0.0.1
                              ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, rcode: NOERROR, id: 9055
                              ;; flags: qr rd ra ; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
                              ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                              ;; hamal.intranet.dynameeting.it. IN A

                              ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                              hamal.intranet 16 IN A 192.168.212.135

                              ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:

                              ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:

                              ;; Query time: 0 msec
                              ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1
                              ;; WHEN: Thu Dec 27 11:36:32 2018
                              ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 63*

                              The corresponding table was empty, so the corresponding permit rule was never triggered (trafic dropped)

                              I tried adding via command line
                              pfctl -t FQDN_Hamal -T add hamal.intranet
                              it sometimes works giving
                              1/1 addresses added
                              sometimes does'nt work
                              0/1 addresses added
                              The corresponding log in filterdns is allways
                              filterdns: Adding Action: pf table: FQDN_Hamal host: hamal.intranet

                              I have no idea why this happens.
                              Can anyone help me?

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                              • jimpJ
                                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                last edited by

                                First, you wouldn't inject an alias entry using pfctl that way for a hostname. The filterdns daemon manages that internally.

                                Second, if it works sometimes and not others, it could be either because the host can't be resolved, or that it's already in the table.

                                The adding action log entry means filterdns read that entry from the config, not that it successfully resolved the host.

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                                  chriva
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi Jimp,
                                  I know I should not add hostnames like this, I'm simply trying to make the problem clearer.
                                  The table itself should hold only one entry (resolved to 192.168.212.135)
                                  If I try to inject a non valid fqdn I get an error:
                                  pfctl -t FQDN_Hamal -T add hamal2.intranet
                                  no IP address found for hamal2.intranet

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                                  • GrimsonG
                                    Grimson Banned
                                    last edited by

                                    So this is an internal domain, how are your DNS on pfSense configured. Make sure pfSense only uses name servers that can resolve those internal domains.

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                                      chriva
                                      last edited by

                                      Hi Grimson,
                                      sorry for the delay (and Happy New Year to all).
                                      The DNS is configured to point
                                      2 internal DNS server (reachables)
                                      2 external DNS servers (google)

                                      I 've just removed the google ones and I will let you know

                                      Regards.

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                                        chriva
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi,
                                        Today the problem is back again: some table are void: non traffic allowed despite the dns pointing only internal servers.

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          And still no filterdns errors on the resolver log? Or system log?

                                          Steve

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                                            chriva
                                            last edited by

                                            No errors in system log.
                                            No relevant errors in resolver log (only a few failed to resolve host : new_name.internal , due to devices that are already configured on the firewall but not on the dns server. Those entries have no concern with the void tables.)

                                            Regards

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