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    • gregeehG
      gregeeh
      last edited by

      Hi all,

      My Firewall Log is full of these blocked IPv6 messages:

      alt text

      How can I find the device on the LAN that is causing them?

      TIA

      Greg

      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
      CPU N3150, 2 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 2 Realtek Gb Ethernet ports.
      UniFi AC-Lite access point

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        marvosa
        last edited by

        Do you have Ubiquity equipment? If so, it appears to be the device discovery service from your Ubiquity equipment, which can be disabled. If not, it could be the link-local address on your cable modem.

        You can also check the NDP table (Diagnostics -> NDP Table) to get the MAC address of the device, which should aid in tracking it down if you have a limited amount of devices. Also, once you have the MAC... if you have a managed switch, there should be some tools available that you can leverage to identify exactly which switch port the offending MAC address is connected to.

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        • JKnottJ
          JKnott
          last edited by

          @marvosa said in How do I find this device?:

          You can also check the NDP table (Diagnostics -> NDP Table) to get the MAC address of the device

          Just look at those addresses. They're link local addresses, based on the MAC address. Just look for MAC addresses that look similar. Everything after fffe in the address is the same as the same bits in the MAC address.

          PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
          i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
          UniFi AC-Lite access point

          I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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          • gregeehG
            gregeeh @marvosa
            last edited by

            @marvosa said in How do I find this device?:

            Do you have Ubiquity equipment? If so, it appears to be the device discovery service from your Ubiquity equipment, which can be disabled. If not, it could be the link-local address on your cable modem.

            Yes, I have one Ubiquity AP on the network and it does appear to be the device discovery service. Do not think it can be disabled as the AP is the only Ubiquity product and I use a Unifi Controller on my W10 PC whenever I want to make changes to the AP.

            Thanks for your and @JKnott input as it was most helpful.

            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
            CPU N3150, 2 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 2 Realtek Gb Ethernet ports.
            UniFi AC-Lite access point

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            • bmeeksB
              bmeeks @gregeeh
              last edited by

              @gregeeh if you do not want this traffic filling up your logs, create a rule near the top on your LAN interface that has any as the source, UDP as the protocol, ff02::1 as the destination address and 10001 as the destination port. Set the rule to drop but not log.

              Right now that traffic is hitting the firewall's default deny rule and that rule is logging the dropped packet. By inserting your own rule up higher in the chain, the packet is "handled" by your rules and thus never gets to the default deny rule (which is at the bottom of the rule chain).

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @JKnott
                last edited by

                @jknott said in How do I find this device?:

                Everything after fffe in the address is the same as the same bits in the MAC address.

                Not always true.. But from that looks like
                https://aruljohn.com/mac/788A20
                78:8A:20 Ubiquiti Networks Inc.

                You can depending on the OS and or device have it not use mac in creating the link local
                for example my windows machine
                Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::3020:bb96:34a5:921d

                Notice the missing fffe

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                • JKnottJ
                  JKnott @johnpoz
                  last edited by

                  @johnpoz said in How do I find this device?:

                  Notice the missing fffe

                  Every address in the list contained fffe, so they're MAC based. I am aware the link local address can be locally set. For example, pfSense uses fe80::1:1.

                  PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                  i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                  UniFi AC-Lite access point

                  I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    that is NOT locally set... My point is you should be more detailed with your info since they people clearly don't know - or they wouldn't be here asking in the first place.

                    And you told them to look at the last part of the mac vs the full thing showing them what maker of the device was, etc.

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                    • JKnottJ
                      JKnott
                      last edited by

                      @johnpoz said in How do I find this device?:

                      My point is you should be more detailed with your info since they people clearly don't know - or they wouldn't be here asking in the first place.

                      Here is my post:
                      "Just look at those addresses. They're link local addresses, based on the MAC address. Just look for MAC addresses that look similar. Everything after fffe in the address is the same as the same bits in the MAC address."

                      Given that every address listed included fffe, my comment was entirely accurate in that context. He was trying to find the source and I gave him a clue. I was not attempting to give a full tutorial on link local addresses.

                      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                      i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                      UniFi AC-Lite access point

                      I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                      • gregeehG
                        gregeeh @bmeeks
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                        @bmeeks said in How do I find this device?:

                        @gregeeh if you do not want this traffic filling up your logs, create a rule near the top on your LAN interface that has any as the source, UDP as the protocol, ff02::1 as the destination address and 10001 as the destination port. Set the rule to drop but not log.

                        Right now that traffic is hitting the firewall's default deny rule and that rule is logging the dropped packet. By inserting your own rule up higher in the chain, the packet is "handled" by your rules and thus never gets to the default deny rule (which is at the bottom of the rule chain).

                        Most helpful. Thank you.

                        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                        CPU N3150, 2 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 2 Realtek Gb Ethernet ports.
                        UniFi AC-Lite access point

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