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    New Version 2.4.4 - Interface Error --> aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14

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    • JeGrJ
      JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator
      last edited by

      Hi there,

      just configured a new cluster for a customer last wednesday and saw those exact same error messages pop up in the general log. Never had these before but also never had ixL interfaces (the 10G ones were ix ones almost every time). Anything to do with the driver perhaps?

      As those are two completely new hardware machines that have a module bay with a 4-port SFP+ module (ixl0-3) and both had those messages right from the start, I don't think the hardware is at fault.

      Messages popped up when adding the 6 VLANs from the customers setup to the ixl0 interface and we have those popping up seemingly random and sparse in the logs but now the customer's worried if hardware or software is at fault.

      If there's anything to help analyze, I'm sure we can provide a few details to catch the meaning of it.

      Greets
      Jens

      Don't forget to upvote 👍 those who kindly offered their time and brainpower to help you!

      If you're interested, I'm available to discuss details of German-speaking paid support (for companies) if needed.

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Hmm, there does seem to be something that has snuck in here.

        The previous reports of this suggested that VLANs already added to the interface in 2.4.3 were not affected and continued to function. That implies it's something in the actual addition process that is triggering the error.
        It would be interesting to try manually editing the config to add a new VLAN with an ixl parent and see if that works.

        If that was the case though you would think that simply rebooting after adding those new VLANs would bring them up correctly.

        It does seem to be VLAN hardware offloading failing.

        Steve

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        • JeGrJ
          JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator
          last edited by

          Does is have something to do with the older "error" in this thread that mentioned the problem would be gone with a further driver update? Could this be related to a newer driver or driver changes to ixl on FreeBSD 11.2 perhaps?

          https://communities.intel.com/thread/103549

          Otherwise the VLANs came up alright, what I did see was CARP on those VLAN interfaces somewhat "jittery". If you refresh CARP status on both nodes, you could see the them switching master roles very very shortly but noticable for a second. After witnessing this, I rebooted both nodes. After a bit of research this weekend I found this thread and tried salvaging the reboot log from those boxes:

          Nov 2 15:48:06	kernel		done.
Nov 2 15:48:05	php-cgi		rc.bootup: Configuring CARP settings finalize...
Nov 2 15:48:05	php-cgi		rc.bootup: pfsync done in 0 seconds.
Nov 2 15:48:05	php-fpm	334	/rc.carpbackup: HA cluster member "(192.168.91.4@ixl0.91): (V091_PHONE)" has resumed CARP state "BACKUP" for vhid 4
Nov 2 15:48:05	php-fpm	334	/rc.carpbackup: HA cluster member "(192.168.82.4@ixl0.82): (V082_BZD)" has resumed CARP state "BACKUP" for vhid 4
Nov 2 15:48:05	php-fpm	334	/rc.carpbackup: HA cluster member "(192.168.80.4@ixl0.80): (V080_HNR)" has resumed CARP state "BACKUP" for vhid 4
Nov 2 15:48:05	php-cgi		rc.bootup: waiting for pfsync...
Nov 2 15:48:05	php-fpm	335	/rc.carpbackup: HA cluster member "(192.168.95.4@ixl0.95): (V095_ADMIN)" has resumed CARP state "BACKUP" for vhid 4
Nov 2 15:48:05	php-fpm	334	/rc.carpbackup: HA cluster member "(10.0.0.4@ixl0.10): (V010_VERWA)" has resumed CARP state "BACKUP" for vhid 4
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		carp: 4@ixl0.91: INIT -> BACKUP (initialization complete)
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		ixl0.91: promiscuous mode enabled
Nov 2 15:48:04	check_reload_status		Carp backup event
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		carp: 4@ixl0.82: INIT -> BACKUP (initialization complete)
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		ixl0.82: promiscuous mode enabled
Nov 2 15:48:04	check_reload_status		Carp backup event
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		carp: 4@ixl0.80: INIT -> BACKUP (initialization complete)
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		ixl0.80: promiscuous mode enabled
Nov 2 15:48:04	check_reload_status		Carp backup event
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		carp: 4@ixl0.10: INIT -> BACKUP (initialization complete)
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		ixl0.10: promiscuous mode enabled
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		carp: demoted by 240 to 720 (interface down)
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		igb4: promiscuous mode enabled
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		carp: demoted by 240 to 480 (interface down)
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		igb0: promiscuous mode enabled
Nov 2 15:48:04	check_reload_status		Carp backup event
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		carp: 4@ixl0.95: INIT -> BACKUP (initialization complete)
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		ixl0.95: promiscuous mode enabled
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		ixl0: promiscuous mode enabled
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		carp: demoted by 240 to 240 (interface down)
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		igb1: promiscuous mode enabled
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:04	check_reload_status		Carp backup event
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:04	kernel		done.
Nov 2 15:48:03	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:03	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:03	kernel		done.
Nov 2 15:48:03	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:03	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:03	kernel		vlan4: changing name to 'ixl0.95'
Nov 2 15:48:03	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:03	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:03	syslogd		Logging subprocess 11242 (exec /usr/local/sbin/sshguard) exited due to signal 15.
Nov 2 15:48:03	sshd	10982	Server listening on 0.0.0.0 port 22.
Nov 2 15:48:03	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:03	sshd	10982	Server listening on :: port 22.
Nov 2 15:48:03	kernel		vlan3: changing name to 'ixl0.91'
Nov 2 15:48:03	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:03	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:03	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:03	kernel		vlan2: changing name to 'ixl0.82'
Nov 2 15:48:03	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:02	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:02	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:02	kernel		vlan1: changing name to 'ixl0.80'
Nov 2 15:48:02	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:02	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:02	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:02	kernel		ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
Nov 2 15:48:02	kernel		vlan0: changing name to 'ixl0.10'
Nov 2 15:48:02	kernel		device_attach: est3 attach returned 6
Nov 2 15:48:02	kernel		est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 211200002200
Nov 2 15:48:02	kernel		est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
Nov 2 15:48:02	kernel		est3: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu3
Nov 2 15:48:02	kernel		coretemp3: <CPU On-Die Thermal Sensors> on cpu3

          (log is newest on top)
          Seems to me that assigning and renaming the VLANs somehow triggers that error, too.

          Don't forget to upvote 👍 those who kindly offered their time and brainpower to help you!

          If you're interested, I'm available to discuss details of German-speaking paid support (for companies) if needed.

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            sde
            last edited by

            I reported a bug for this case.
            https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/9123

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              It does look like there have been some driver updates in FreeBSD that might apply to this.
              If you're able to test FreeBSD 11-stable or 12 that would be useful.

              Steve

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              • JeGrJ
                JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator
                last edited by

                I'd like to help but as those are remote installations from a customer, I'm not at freedom to drive there, pull out the standby one and throw FreeBSD on it. ;) I'd like to (at least to help sort things out), but unfortunately that will be a hard one.

                Don't forget to upvote 👍 those who kindly offered their time and brainpower to help you!

                If you're interested, I'm available to discuss details of German-speaking paid support (for companies) if needed.

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                  peter-v @stephenw10
                  last edited by peter-v

                  @stephenw10 said in New Version 2.4.4 - Interface Error --> aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14:

                  It does look like there have been some driver updates in FreeBSD that might apply to this.
                  If you're able to test FreeBSD 11-stable or 12 that would be useful.

                  Steve

                  I can help, but don't know how to upgrade to a newer version of FreeBSD in PFSense. The only way I know how to upgrade FreeBSD, freebsd-update, does not exist - so a brief instruction would be helpful.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    You would need to install FreeBSD instead of pfSense really. The changes look significant, I don't think it would load into 11.2 from 11-stable. Our current dev snapshots are still built on 11.2.

                    Steve

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                      peter-v
                      last edited by peter-v

                      I've found that if I disable a physical interface (the parent so to speak) and only have tagged vlans on that interface, the error does not show. Also, if the error does occur, it can provoke a kernel panic immediately or at shutdown. There is definitely something fishy going on.

                      Is there a way to log the commands that are applied after a save in the web interface so I can further debug which command is causing the problem?

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Not really. The best you can probably do is boot in verbose mode to log more debug info. Other then recompiling the driver with debugging enabled but that will probably give you far too much detail.

                        Add to /boot/loader.conf.local:
                        boot_verbose="YES"

                        Steve

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                          peter-v @stephenw10
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10 Adding boot_verbose did not give more info, other than the occasional printing of "vlanx: bpf attached" in between the errors.

                          Found from the Intel source code that "-14" means "invalid argument".

                          It is also not consistent. In one test I moved all the VLAN's from ixl0 (which was throwing the error) to ixl1 (which did not) and then back - error gone. The resulting config.xml did not show any difference from before the moving the vlans back-and-forth.

                          After a reboot the errors where back. To provoke the error reliably: press save on an interface detail page (no change needed, just press save on e.g. the WAN page), then "Apply Changes" will throw the error.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Really I think the only way to do this is to try to replicate it in FreeBSD. First in 11.2 and then in 12.

                            Unfortunately I don't have access to any ixl NICs to try that. ☹

                            Steve

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                              peter-v @stephenw10
                              last edited by

                              @stephenw10 I've ifconfig-ed myself a finger hernia but I cannot get the error that way.
                              My feeling is that the error occurs in the calls done to pfSense.so; specifically when interfaces are un-configured before being reconfigured. Since it does not seem to occur when loading the inital config but does when reconfiguring.

                              Also tried with the driver in debug mode (compiled with -DIXL_DEBUG, you need to add two functions to the header that Intel seem to have missed) but that did not render any useful output. So I am out of my witz.

                              I can give you remote access to a box with IXL interfaces if you like, PM me for that.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                I'm not the right guy to be doing that. You'd be better off offering in the bug report. Or just updating that with everything you have found to help developers investigating.

                                https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/9123

                                Steve

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                                  Juve
                                  last edited by

                                  Hi,

                                  I am facing the same issue:

                                  A system with two XL710 dual port, using a lagg over xl0 and xl2, no traffic is passing inbound

                                  vlan0: changing name to 'lagg0.50'
                                  ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
                                  ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
                                  ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
                                  ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14
                                  vlan1: changing name to 'lagg0.51'
                                  ixl0: aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14

                                  Can't find any solution, I am still investigating right now.
                                  If anyone has a clue ?

                                  Thank you all

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                                    Juve
                                    last edited by

                                    Looks like the error is coming from the way the php module is configuring the vlan on the interface.

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Data on the bug report suggests this is a FreeBSD 11.2 issue. So try a 2.5 snapshot if you can.

                                      Steve

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                                        xciter327
                                        last edited by xciter327

                                        Hi,

                                        I too have a X710 based system that I'm testing with. I have had some success with the following tweaks to network adapter under pfSense 2.4.3:

                                        ifconfig ixl0 -vlanhwfilter -vlanhwtso -tso
                                        ifconfig ixl1 -vlanhwfilter -vlanhwtso -tso
                                        ifconfig ixl2 -vlanhwfilter -vlanhwtso -tso
                                        ifconfig ixl3 -vlanhwfilter -vlanhwtso -tso

                                        To re-iterate, the error was still being thrown, but the system continued to process packets.

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                                          Juve
                                          last edited by

                                          So, I did lot of testing and tried the lastest driver compiled for FreeBSD 11.2. My conclusion is that problems are related to LACP lagg and not the driver itself.

                                          If you don't use LACP lagg or use a Failover Lagg there are no issues.
                                          If you use LACP mode you will suffer "queue hanging" problems under traffic.
                                          If you use a newer driver, the kernel error message "aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14" isn't present anymore.

                                          For the moment I am running stock 2.4.4-P3 with embeded driver (1.9.9.k) with a failover lagg and I am not seeing any issue. The error message logged at configure time (aq_add_macvlan err -53, aq_error 14) seems to be harmless. I stressed the system with iperf (14 threads) during 30 minutes without any packet drop or kernel message about queue hanging.

                                          I'll try to see if there are any performance enhancement with the latest driver.

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            Please add that info to the bug report if you have confirmed it.
                                            https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/9123

                                            Steve

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